Why does anyone think a conversation solves anything???

[hurts2b]

All the anti suicide posts or online articles love to promise opportunities and "connections" will flock to you as long as you ask for it. Not true at all. The odd kind/intimate conversation doesn't solve a lifetime of stress and mistreatment (or economic issues).

It's also like. A lot of us have nobody to ask at all. A lot of us have bad experiences and reasons not to blindly trust. A lot of us don't feel human warmth at all.

. I just want people to stop promising what they can't deliver.

 

[xXSufferingXx]

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Why does anyone think a conversation solves anything???

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because they haven't ever had any real problems big enough to understand.
the only problems they might've had in life have been minimal, so they have no idea.

 

[charlavail]

it's the only thing they can think is helpful without it being actual effort or being too emotional

 

[Moniker]

In regards to economic issues, I think it thrusts the responsibility of stuff like poverty onto regular working people instead of the government. It's as if it's our responsibility to make people feel better about economic struggles instead of the government to address those issues in the first place.

Beyond that, I think the notion of telling others about suicide is a hollow aphorism. Most people are not equipped with the ability to make you feel better. In my experience, they hardly cared either and we never revisited the conversation.

 

[hurts2b]

In regards to economic issues, I think it thrusts the responsibility of stuff like poverty onto regular working people instead of the government. It's as if it's our responsibility to make people feel better about economic struggles instead of the government to address those issues in the first place.

Beyond that, I think the notion of telling others about suicide is a hollow aphorism. Most people are not equipped with the ability to make you feel better. In my experience, they hardly cared either and we never revisited the conversation.

Exactly this. I'm going to probably end it in 4-6 months because of these issues. People mean well but overestimate the amount of control the average worker has.

I think people care in the abstract but have no idea how to act when they're faced with the situation in reality.

 

[Pluto]

 

[eggsausagerice]

All the anti suicide posts or online articles love to promise opportunities and "connections" will flock to you as long as you ask for it. Not true at all. The odd kind/intimate conversation doesn't solve a lifetime of stress and mistreatment (or economic issues).

It's also like. A lot of us have nobody to ask at all. A lot of us have bad experiences and reasons not to blindly trust. A lot of us don't feel human warmth at all.

Beyond that, I think the notion of telling others about suicide is a hollow aphorism. Most people are not equipped with the ability to make you feel better. In my experience, they hardly cared either and we never revisited the conversation.

i feel really sad when people tell me to seek therapy or to talk to one of my friends. the reason i'm distant from my friends now is that i know if i'm honest about my suicidal thoughts or bring them up at all, it's only going to cause conflict, guilt, or problems. it never actually helps anything. it never makes me feel better. and i can't afford therapy and have only had bad experiences with therapists and counselors at school. no one actually knows how to talk about my issues with me, and i get emotionally overwhelmed when people see me venting as a reason to start talking about their problems.

it's such a non-answer to someone having suicidal thoughts. the hotline doesn't help and the people in your life definitely won't help, even if they're well meaning. it's easier to go through it on your own because no one has the capacity to deal with your problems. people have tried to look for reasons to tell me to not kill myself or came up with ways to make me live longer like trying to plan something months ahead, but i only felt irritated by it. i'm not going to talk about it with anyone anymore. it was just a mistake.

 

[Moniker]

it's such a non-answer to someone having suicidal thoughts. the hotline doesn't help and the people in your life definitely won't help, even if they're well meaning. it's easier to go through it on your own because no one has the capacity to deal with your problems.

Yeah, that's largely been my experience too. I used to be pretty upset by how lousy the response was to me talking about my SH and suicide plans, but these days I wonder if there was a right thing to say to me. I'm sure anything they could say would be things I've heard/read before. I just don't see the point in reaching out.