melancholymallory03

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Feb 20, 2024
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I'm a very loving person naturally but the melancholy has dragged me down quite a bit. I look around at a few people in my life. One woman in specific who continues to reproduce I have so much love for her but I could not possibly understand wanting to bring the innocence of children into a state of this world today. You just can't protect them from the dangers of society no matter how much you try, and parents always feel children belong to them. Maybe that's the root of most suffering, attachment. Surely I don't blame people who want to have children but it does baffle me to my core and I always feel deep guilt. Such Poor things, coming into this world with no idea what's in store for them. Life is beautiful isn't it ? That's what we tell ourselves. We are ignorant to everything truly going on , all the children suffering and dying. I'd be ashamed if I think my child had any place over theirs. So many children already suffering in this world. Sick sick sick. But people still continue to reproduce? Until we can heal our society nobody should be adding to the problem , human beings 💔.

( if you have kids I'm not meaning to offend you) ( I have many siblings , that I love dearly. I wish they too did not have to bear the weight of the world but I am certain they will be better off without me so that will be a step. ) none of us asked for this , so if someone wants to take responsibility for there own pain and suffering so be it.
Life is a mystery to me
 
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Society expects you as a woman to bring as many children in the world as you can, there's a lot of pressure to be a mother.

It's also a biological thing, that's why we have sexual and romantic feelings, it's a chemical thing pushing us to reproduce it's in our programming.

The issue is that the world is a horrible place, not the fact that people are having kids in my opinion.
 
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some people, especially in the US, do it for nefarious reasons. such as getting government handouts without needing to work. a lot of low income families have children purely for the government benefits from it while the child suffers with a family that wouldn't love them if they could.

to me it just seems along like narcissism. like you NEED to have a biological child that badly? when so many children without homes already exist? i'm sure they'd love a home. what's so good about your genes that you want to see them passed down in a mini-you? gross.

others have kids because they think it'll fix their relationship. yeah, right.

my siblings have kids and their reasoning for it... accidents. we were all accidents, haha. but they chose to keep them anyway. why? i don't know. my family isn't against abortion at all so it's strange to me.

personally i would never have a biological child because i have hereditary disorders that i could potentially pass down fucking that kid's life before it even began. that is selfishness as well. knowing you have hereditary disorders yet still choosing to have bio children? even though you'll potentially pass on that sickness to them? and for what reason? just to have a kid? a farce you call a family?

this world is cruel. so many children already exist that want loving homes. why is everyone so against adoption? narcissism. that's all it comes down to me. your genes can't be so perfect that they must be passed down. you're not royalty, there is no "carrying the family name", come on.
 
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To try to fill the emptiness in their life
 
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I find it disturbing how humans so harmfully force life here even know there is literally no limit as to how torturous existing can get yet nobody can suffer from never existing at all, it isn't like there was ever a need for existence in the first place anyway.

Human existence truly is such an terrible, tragic abomination, I will always see procreation as completely unacceptable. How could one be so selfish and lack awareness to the point that they so cruelly impose existence especially as it's something so torturous and futile to have the ability to suffer endlessly in an existence that was always undesirable just waiting to die anyway.
What's tragic to me is how this repulsive human species hasn't gone voluntarily extinct yet, humans truly are the worst species with how they choose to make others suffer so unnecessarily.
 
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Because, society expects people to have children and people are selfish. Very few people bother to think about the future child and what they are potentially going to force them to go through if they give birth to them. Children aren't see as people to most parents. They are things that they can use to play around with and filled the voids within them. Children are one of the most dehumanized demographics in the world but nobody wants to talk about it. We allow parents to physically assualt them under the guise of "disicipline", to disrespect their boundaries, to not listen or value their opinions, and more and then we wonder why so many children end up growing up to be dysfunctional adults. We question why so many of them have a hard time with understanding things that should be so basic, like emotional regulation and respecting boundaries, while completely ignoring how the most common parenting methods today fail to teach children these things. The standards for parenting are incredibly low, yet parents still complain about people expecting too much from them.

People love children because they make them feel good. When you have a child you have gone on to uphold part of society's expectations of you. Your entire personality becomes the fact that you are a parent and people around you will act as though you've accomplished this huge feat, when in reality all you probably did was have sex. Having a child is one hell of an ego trip for most people and children are so young and vulnerable that they can be easily used for your own gain. As a result, people will keep on reproducing no matter what with no care.
 
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Because sex feels good (apparently, otherwise, why would porn and hookers exist?) and the biological purpose of life is to survive and reproduce. People are hardwired to reproduce. Men have high sex drives, even some women do as well. Personally, I'm antinatalist, but the only real purpose of existence is to survive, pass your genes onto the next generation, then die lol
Society expects you as a woman to bring as many children in the world as you can, there's a lot of pressure to be a mother.

It's also a biological thing, that's why we have sexual and romantic feelings, it's a chemical thing pushing us to reproduce it's in our programming.

The issue is that the world is a horrible place, not the fact that people are having kids in my opinion.
Why is there this weird dichotomy about sex? It's the Madonna and the whore complex. Like honestly, sex is gross. Pornstars and prostitutes (and all people who sell their bodies for money) as well as "promiscuous" women (or just women with a high body count) are looked down upon and called "sluts" and "whores", but people revere mothers even though they engaged in such a disgusting act. Mothers literally become gods; they're worshipped and seen as angels. Can someone explain it to me? I don't understand. Does having/birthing a child take away the disgustingness of the sexual act that it arose from?
 
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it does baffle me to my core
i'm gonna guess you are not living in a third world nation. don't you think that's where the bigger problem is? can't feed your child but another one comes. and then there are commercials asking you for help. to donate. yeah that makes sense to me.
 
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i'm gonna guess you are not living in a third world nation. don't you think that's where the bigger problem is? can't feed your child but another one comes. and then there are commercials asking you for help. to donate. yeah that makes sense to me.
Isn't that because sex feels good? So naturally, people will have it. And you know what happens from sex? Babies. Nature made sex feel good so people would procreate and the species would survive
 
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Isn't that because sex feels good? So naturally, people will have it. And you know what happens from sex? Babies. Nature made sex feel good so people would procreate and the species would survive
yes. i meant developed countries. hormones take over your brain.
 
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Primary objective of mankind
 
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People always think that their child won't be the one to experience cruelty to where they consider killing themselves. The human ego is just too great for that to happen. They will always think that their child will be the one to come out on top whereas the other children would be the ones who would lose and suffer. They also want a child for their own benefit so that they can experience whatever selfish desires they have. After all, there is no unselfish way to procreate
 
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Narcissism has been mentioned. Yes the children will suffer. Yes there are strong biological and societal urges to have children. But now keep in mind that those with a lot of love, empathy, and forethought are intentionally abstaining from having children to protect their unborn theoretical children.

So what type of person is left that has children? Those without love except for their own status (fulfilling base urges of self and socially), those without empathy and potentially malice, and lack of forethought. Those with dark triad traits, malignant narcissists and sadistic sociopaths, whom people of both sexes find to be the most attractive and charismatic personalities by the way, are hyper-breeders. Think of the stereotype of a 'deadbeat baby-daddy' with five little runts with five different trashy women. Or the welfare queen mom that spits 'em out for checks to support a meth habit and keeps them locked in a room with a only a box of cereal per week to barely keep them alive till she can try and force them to work and take care of her.

Those are the low-functioning breeders that catch our attention. But look also to the ones posting excessively their baby pics on social media hoping to score some validation. Those with bumper stickers about their mini-Einstein being an honor roll student on their car. Those who use the suicides of family members to score points on social media by becoming pro-life advocates.

Yes the children will suffer. But let's be real. There is both natural and sexual selection pressures at work to ensure that only the most evil humans with the most malignant traits sure to increase suffering of others are born. They will still suffer and many will want to CTB eventually too anyway. But it is an ecosystem of only predators eventually. The only source of life will be dog eat dog.
 
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Society expects you as a woman to bring as many children in the world as you can, there's a lot of pressure to be a mother.

It's also a biological thing, that's why we have sexual and romantic feelings, it's a chemical thing pushing us to reproduce it's in our programming.

The issue is that the world is a horrible place, not the fact that people are having kids in my opinion.
Society expects you as a woman to bring as many children in the world as you can, there's a lot of pressure to be a mother.

It's also a biological thing, that's why we have sexual and romantic feelings, it's a chemical thing pushing us to reproduce it's in our programming.

The issue is that the world is a horrible place, not the fact that people are having kids in my opinion

i'm gonna guess you are not living in a third world nation. don't you think that's where the bigger problem is? can't feed your child but another one comes. and then there are commercials asking you for help. to donate. yeah that makes sense to me.

Please don't guess anything about me …..
I'm entitled to my opinion. Just like yours and I'm certainly not here to debate. I was simply writing my thoughts. My stance is it's best not to have children at all because it's a sad and selfish thing to do in my opinion. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, so please feel free to share yours as much as you'd like , peaceful day to you.
I'm entitled to my opinion. Just like yours and I'm certainly not here to debate. I was simply writing my thoughts. My stance is it's best not to have children at all because it's a sad and selfish thing to do in my opinion. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, so please feel free to share yours as much as you'd like , peaceful day to you.i

I find it disturbing how humans so harmfully force life here even know there is literally no limit as to how torturous existing can get yet nobody can suffer from never existing at all, it isn't like there was ever a need for existence in the first place anyway.

Human existence truly is such an terrible, tragic abomination, I will always see procreation as completely unacceptable. How could one be so selfish and lack awareness to the point that they so cruelly impose existence especially as it's something so torturous and futile to have the ability to suffer endlessly in an existence that was always undesirable just waiting to die anyway.
What's tragic to me is how this repulsive human species hasn't gone voluntarily extinct yet, humans truly are the worst species with how they choose to make others suffer so unnecessarily.
I agree with you 🧡 humans are the source of our problem. I respect those who want to live but I don't think our worlds in any condition to reproduce in anymore :( or perhaps it never was..
Because, society expects people to have children and people are selfish. Very few people bother to think about the future child and what they are potentially going to force them to go through if they give birth to them. Children aren't see as people to most parents. They are things that they can use to play around with and filled the voids within them. Children are one of the most dehumanized demographics in the world but nobody wants to talk about it. We allow parents to physically assualt them under the guise of "disicipline", to disrespect their boundaries, to not listen or value their opinions, and more and then we wonder why so many children end up growing up to be dysfunctional adults. We question why so many of them have a hard time with understanding things that should be so basic, like emotional regulation and respecting boundaries, while completely ignoring how the most common parenting methods today fail to teach children these things. The standards for parenting are incredibly low, yet parents still complain about people expecting too much from them.

People love children because they make them feel good. When you have a child you have gone on to uphold part of society's expectations of you. Your entire personality becomes the fact that you are a parent and people around you will act as though you've accomplished this huge feat, when in reality all you probably did was have sex. Having a child is one hell of an ego trip for most people and children are so young and vulnerable that they can be easily used for your own gain. As a result, people will keep on reproducing no matter what with no care.
Thank you for mentioning societal values. I think it's worth considering some people don't have the same access to resources to when they have got themselves in a harmful situation. But those who know what they are doing, and continue to just get likes on Facebook , baby bonus and other freebies. It disgusts me intensely
I can't stand all the people who are now treating children as if they were pets.
Because, society expects people to have children and people are selfish. Very few people bother to think about the future child and what they are potentially going to force them to go through if they give birth to them. Children aren't see as people to most parents. They are things that they can use to play around with and filled the voids within them. Children are one of the most dehumanized demographics in the world but nobody wants to talk about it. We allow parents to physically assualt them under the guise of "disicipline", to disrespect their boundaries, to not listen or value their opinions, and more and then we wonder why so many children end up growing up to be dysfunctional adults. We question why so many of them have a hard time with understanding things that should be so basic, like emotional regulation and respecting boundaries, while completely ignoring how the most common parenting methods today fail to teach children these things. The standards for parenting are incredibly low, yet parents still complain about people expecting too much from them.

People love children because they make them feel good. When you have a child you have gone on to uphold part of society's expectations of you. Your entire personality becomes the fact that you are a parent and people around you will act as though you've accomplished this huge feat, when in reality all you probably did was have sex. Having a child is one hell of an ego trip for most people and children are so young and vulnerable that they can be easily used for your own gain. As a result, people will keep on reproducing no matter what with no care.
"Your entire personality becomes the fact that you are a parent and people around you will act as though you've accomplished this huge feat, when in reality all you probably did was have sex. Having a child is one hell of an ego trip for most"

Very well said.
Because sex feels good (apparently, otherwise why would porn exist?) and the biological purpose of life is to survive and reproduce. People are hardwired to reproduce. Men have high sex drives, even some women do as well. Personally I'm antinatalist, but the only real purpose of existence is to pass your genes onto the next generation then die lol

Why is there this weird dichotomy about sex? It's the Madonna and the whore dichotomy. Like honestly, sex is gross. Pornstars and prostitutes (and all people who sell their bodies for money) as well as "promiscuous" women (or just women with a high body count) are looked down upon and called "sluts" and "whores", but people revere mothers even though they engaged in such a disgusting act. Mothers literally become gods; they're worshipped and seen as angels. Can someone explain it to me? I don't understand. Does having/birthing a child take away the disgustingness of the sexual act that it arose from?
I wouldn't say sex in itself is disgusting. I too refrained from it quite a bit as a teen, now I just fuck who I want because we will all die anyhow. But " sex " definitely not for the squeamish 😂
Also
I couldn't agree with you more about the Madonna and the whore complex our society has. I don't think we can shame anyone for what they do for money in this economy as long as it's not trafficking. And of course the traffickers should be shamed not the victims lol.
on another note I would use protection to avoid any unforeseen circumstances…. Just for my own guilt … and beyond ready to nip something in the bud if it did occur. To free them from any pain they may live through. And like the other fella said up there I ^have some disorders I wouldn't wanna pass on to be quite honest. I' used to consider adopting for this reason but soon realize I'd become unhealthily attached with the kid for my own reasons. And attachment is the root of all suffering … haha
Isn't that because sex feels good? So naturally, people will have it. And you know what happens from sex? Babies. Nature made sex feel good so people would procreate and the species would survive
I'm entitled to my opinion. Just like yours and I'm certainly not here to debate. I was simply writing my thoughts. My stance is it's best not to have children at all because it's a sad and selfish thing to do in my opinion. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, so please feel free to share yours as much as you'd like , peaceful day to you.



I agree with you 🧡 humans are the source of our problem. I respect those who want to live but I don't think our worlds in any condition to reproduce in anymore :( or perhaps it never was..

Thank you for mentioning societal values. I think it's worth considering some people don't have the same access to resources to when they have got themselves in a harmful situation. But those who know what they are doing, and continue to just get likes on Facebook , baby bonus and other freebies. It disgusts me intensely
I can't stand all the people who are now treating children as if they were pets.

"Your entire personality becomes the fact that you are a parent and people around you will act as though you've accomplished this huge feat, when in reality all you probably did was have sex. Having a child is one hell of an ego trip for most"

Very well said.

I wouldn't say sex in itself is disgusting. I too refrained from it quite a bit as a younger teen, now I just fuck who I want because we will all die anyhow. But " sex " definitely not for the squeamish 😂
Also
I couldn't agree with you more about the Madonna and the whore complex our society has. I don't think we can shame anyone for what they do for money in this economy as long as it's not trafficking. And of course the traffickers should be shamed not the victims lol.
on another note I would use protection to avoid any unforeseen circumstances…. Just for my own guilt … and beyond ready to nip something in the bud if it did occur. To free them from any pain they may live through. And like the other fella said up there I ^have some disorders I wouldn't wanna pass on to be quite honest. I' used to consider adopting for this reason but soon realize I'd become unhealthily attached with the kid for my own reasons. And attachment is the root of all suffering … haha

Isn't that because sex feels good? So naturally, people will have it. And you know what happens from sex? Babies. Nature made sex feel good so people would procreate and the species would surviv

People always think that their child won't be the one to experience cruelty to where they consider killing themselves. The human ego is just too great for that to happen. They will always think that their child will be the one to come out on top whereas the other children would be the ones who would lose and suffer. They also want a child for their own benefit so that they can experience whatever selfish desires they have. After all, there is no unselfish way to procreate
It's all a mess honestly. A few grey areas tho that I am now thinking about. In general it's so selfish I believe, like wtf. 😳 in this day and age? Ever? 😭😭… come on people
Narcissism has been mentioned. Yes the children will suffer. Yes there are strong biological and societal urges to have children. But now keep in mind that those with a lot of love, empathy, and forethought are intentionally abstaining from having children to protect their unborn theoretical children.

So what type of person is left that has children? Those without love except for their own status (fulfilling base urges of self and socially), those without empathy and potentially malice, and lack of forethought. Those with dark triad traits, malignant narcissists and sadistic sociopaths, whom people of both sexes find to be the most attractive and charismatic personalities by the way, are hyper-breeders. Think of the stereotype of a 'deadbeat baby-daddy' with five little runts with five different trashy women. Or the welfare queen mom that spits 'em out for checks to support a meth habit and keeps them locked in a room with a only a box of cereal per week to barely keep them alive till she can try and force them to work and take care of her.

Those are the low-functioning breeders that catch our attention. But look also to the ones posting excessively their baby pics on social media hoping to score some validation. Those with bumper stickers about their mini-Einstein being an honor roll student on their car. Those who use the suicides of family members to score points on social media by becoming pro-life advocates.

Yes the children will suffer. But let's be real. There is both natural and sexual selection pressures at work to ensure that only the most evil humans with the most malignant traits sure to increase suffering of others are born. They will still suffer and many will want to CTB eventually too anyway. But it is an ecosystem of only predators eventually. The only source of life will be dog eat dog.
I hope the rarity's of the world would be kind to there children, and raise fine young people. but it's hard for me to believe it's unselfish to reproduce for MOST of us. D:
 
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Narcissism has been mentioned. Yes the children will suffer. Yes there are strong biological and societal urges to have children. But now keep in mind that those with a lot of love, empathy, and forethought are intentionally abstaining from having children to protect their unborn theoretical children.

So what type of person is left that has children? Those without love except for their own status (fulfilling base urges of self and socially), those without empathy and potentially malice, and lack of forethought. Those with dark triad traits, malignant narcissists and sadistic sociopaths, whom people of both sexes find to be the most attractive and charismatic personalities by the way, are hyper-breeders. Think of the stereotype of a 'deadbeat baby-daddy' with five little runts with five different trashy women. Or the welfare queen mom that spits 'em out for checks to support a meth habit and keeps them locked in a room with a only a box of cereal per week to barely keep them alive till she can try and force them to work and take care of her.

Those are the low-functioning breeders that catch our attention. But look also to the ones posting excessively their baby pics on social media hoping to score some validation. Those with bumper stickers about their mini-Einstein being an honor roll student on their car. Those who use the suicides of family members to score points on social media by becoming pro-life advocates.

Yes the children will suffer. But let's be real. There is both natural and sexual selection pressures at work to ensure that only the most evil humans with the most malignant traits sure to increase suffering of others are born. They will still suffer and many will want to CTB eventually too anyway. But it is an ecosystem of only predators eventually. The only source of life will be dog eat dog.
And my god if I see another bumper sticker celebrating a person just being alive in this sick world I'm gonna scream aloud
 
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Most people don't even realize how harmful procreation is. They have probably never reflected on this because the subject has never been broached. I only found out about antinatalism during the pandemic, before that I thought it was wonderful to have children, even though I had always been depressed and suicidal.
 
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One reason is that reproduction is fun. Evolution weeded out all the less fun methods and left us with this. It is another example of SI in action.
 
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Because sex feels good (apparently, otherwise, why would porn and hookers exist?) and the biological purpose of life is to survive and reproduce. People are hardwired to reproduce. Men have high sex drives, even some women do as well. Personally, I'm antinatalist, but the only real purpose of existence is to survive, pass your genes onto the next generation, then die lol

Why is there this weird dichotomy about sex? It's the Madonna and the whore complex. Like honestly, sex is gross. Pornstars and prostitutes (and all people who sell their bodies for money) as well as "promiscuous" women (or just women with a high body count) are looked down upon and called "sluts" and "whores", but people revere mothers even though they engaged in such a disgusting act. Mothers literally become gods; they're worshipped and seen as angels. Can someone explain it to me? I don't understand. Does having/birthing a child take away the disgustingness of the sexual act that it arose from?
@sserafim Because men have, for centuries, used this as a control tactic in civilization to keep women tame and keep monogamous relationships a primary in a nuclear family. Yes, men, sorry guys it's true. There's Greek myths that detail everything about this under the sun.

but it doesn't mean that mothers can't also be seen as whores- just as an estranged father can be seen as a deadbeat dad. I think it's how the entire nuclear is presented but it's still a false image. For every 20 outwardly happy family there's 19 of them who are cheating on their wives, cheating on their husbands, abusing their kids/husbands/wives and treating everyone and everything terribly. But similarly there's tons of people without kids who are doing the same things to maybe a greater or lesser degree. it's all relative.
Narcissism has been mentioned. Yes the children will suffer. Yes there are strong biological and societal urges to have children. But now keep in mind that those with a lot of love, empathy, and forethought are intentionally abstaining from having children to protect their unborn theoretical children.

So what type of person is left that has children? Those without love except for their own status (fulfilling base urges of self and socially), those without empathy and potentially malice, and lack of forethought. Those with dark triad traits, malignant narcissists and sadistic sociopaths, whom people of both sexes find to be the most attractive and charismatic personalities by the way, are hyper-breeders. Think of the stereotype of a 'deadbeat baby-daddy' with five little runts with five different trashy women. Or the welfare queen mom that spits 'em out for checks to support a meth habit and keeps them locked in a room with a only a box of cereal per week to barely keep them alive till she can try and force them to work and take care of her.

Those are the low-functioning breeders that catch our attention. But look also to the ones posting excessively their baby pics on social media hoping to score some validation. Those with bumper stickers about their mini-Einstein being an honor roll student on their car. Those who use the suicides of family members to score points on social media by becoming pro-life advocates.

Yes the children will suffer. But let's be real. There is both natural and sexual selection pressures at work to ensure that only the most evil humans with the most malignant traits sure to increase suffering of others are born. They will still suffer and many will want to CTB eventually too anyway. But it is an ecosystem of only predators eventually. The only source of life will be dog eat dog.
Oof. Well….you explained it better than I did.
 
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Asked myself this question many times, Of course I can't stop anyone from reproducing as it is their own decision despite how morally wrong I see it as. Whether it's societal pressure to have children, accidental, or whatever the case might be, I feel bad for anyone to be born in this world. There might've been a time in the past when you could protect children from the pain and sadness of life itself, but if that time ever did exist we're long past it now.
 
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Society expects you as a woman to bring as many children in the world as you can, there's a lot of pressure to be a mother.

It's also a biological thing, that's why we have sexual and romantic feelings, it's a chemical thing pushing us to reproduce it's in our programming.

The issue is that the world is a horrible place, not the fact that people are having kids in my opinion.
Yes, but some individuals are completely unworthy to be called father or mother.
 
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Most people I've met in my life, even some that I consider friends, have a very low opinion on anti-natalism and the people who subscribe to it. I personally am not an anti-natalist, though I do sympathize with some of their arguments.

Some of it can be biology, other parts of it can be narcissism, or whatever. One thing I have seen is people who have led harsh and painful lives, have had a bad family growing up, and end up wanting to have kids of their own so they can know what having a happy family feels like. They believe they'll be different from what their parents were, that they'll be a good parent and will give their child a good life. Other people also argue that having kids changes an individual for the better, because they become more responsible, empathetic, strong, and a bunch of other things that are virtues to them.

As for me, I'm probably not ever going to have kids of my own, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want kids. In my case, it's part biology and part wondering if it'll give my life a sense of meaning and purpose. And also wanting to know what it's like to be pregnant, and wanting to give someone a better home than I had growing up. I think I'd go through with it if I didn't have such bad genetics, along with other circumstances that make me feel it's for the best if I don't reproduce.
 
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just like SI, biological imperatives are very hard to resist.
 
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Most people I've met in my life, even some that I consider friends, have a very low opinion on anti-natalism and the people who subscribe to it. I personally am not an anti-natalist, though I do sympathize with some of their arguments.

Some of it can be biology, other parts of it can be narcissism, or whatever. One thing I have seen is people who have led harsh and painful lives, have had a bad family growing up, and end up wanting to have kids of their own so they can know what having a happy family feels like. They believe they'll be different from what their parents were, that they'll be a good parent and will give their child a good life. Other people also argue that having kids changes an individual for the better, because they become more responsible, empathetic, strong, and a bunch of other things that are virtues to them.

As for me, I'm probably not ever going to have kids of my own, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want kids. In my case, it's part biology and part wondering if it'll give my life a sense of meaning and purpose. And also wanting to know what it's like to be pregnant, and wanting to give someone a better home than I had growing up. I think I'd go through with it if I didn't have such bad genetics, along with other circumstances that make me feel it's for the best if I don't reproduce.
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I have a creampie and breeding kink, but I don't actually want to know what it's like to be pregnant
 
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You can't stop people from reproducing because they'll call it eugenics.

Sex is not related to reproduction. If this was true, I'd have hundreds of children. lol

Millions of people rely on IVF to conceive children. Birth control options include vasectomy and tubal ligation.

There is no reason for people to reproduce if they do not want to, and birth control will make your sex life more enjoyable!

I asked my husband to have a vasectomy. You can do it too!

This is not meant to be interpreted as ant-children, as I believe children deserve unconditional love, two mature parents, and respect. My reason for not having them is that I don't want to be trapped with a man because we have children
 
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You can't stop people from reproducing because they'll call it eugenics.

Sex is not related to reproduction. If this was true, I'd have hundreds of children. lol

Millions of people rely on IVF to conceive children. Birth control options include vasectomy and tubal ligation.

There is no reason for people to reproduce if they do not want to, and birth control will make your sex life more enjoyable!

I asked my husband to have a vasectomy. You can do it too!

This is not meant to be interpreted as ant-children, as I believe children deserve unconditional love, two mature parents, and respect. My reason for not having them is that I don't want to be trapped with a man because we have children
Wdym by "sex is not related to reproduction?" Sex is how reproduction happens lol
 
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I have a creampie and breeding kink, but I don't actually want to know what it's like to be pregnant
Fair enough. I've thought similar things, getting creampie'd but not actually getting pregnant.
Wdym by "sex is not related to reproduction?" Sex is how reproduction happens lol
I think they mean that not everyone has sex necessarily because they want to reproduce.
 
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Wdym by "sex is not related to reproduction?" Sex is how reproduction happens lol


Reproduction occurs when you want to have children or engage in sexual activity without using birth control, increasing your chances.

People can have children medically without engaging in sexual activity.

You can even ignore my birth control preference! You can have a lot of sex without ever reproducing. Oral, anal, sex play. homosexual sex, or infertility, including inability to conceive or ovulate.

A virgin is a person who has never had intercourse. It is possible to have very good sex yet remain a virgin. lol
 
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Can someone explain it to me? I don't understand. Does having/birthing a child take away the disgustingness of the sexual act that it arose from?
I think this, much like many other common social norms, roots from the (usually religious) idea that sex is sacred, and should only be done for the purpose of reproduction. It's why mormonism is anti contraceptives and condoms. Lots of more conservative people believe that sex = kids and if you're doing it for any other reaosn it is then wrong.
 
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