Discussion Why do we appreciate human life so much?

[yana]

Hi guys! I'm new here.
I just wonder and want to discuss this topic with someone, because I haven't any people in my life with whom I can talk about it.
See.
Our planet is overcrowded. A lot of people don't have access to healthy products, pure water, good medicine, quality education, a decent job, etc. And there are loads of people who want to die. Right now. Why do not they let us do it legally? I mean it's a pretty good way to begin solving the problem of overpopulation, isn't it?
Why should we appreciate human life so much? What's the point of this approach? Why am I supposed to be so important for humanity, if I do nothing good for it? Why not just let me pass away? It would be rather great for this planet than me dreaming about killing myself and permanently thinking about death. More space, more water, more goods, more air, and so on.
What do you think?

ps sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker

 

[FuneralCry]

Individual human lives do not mean anything, our lives are meaningless. Our only true purpose is to die, all we are doing is waiting around for death. I do not appreciate life at all, I am in fact the opposite. It frustrates me how we were forced to exist and we have to endure the horrors of this life. Life is just pointless suffering.

Many people live under a delusion that life is always worth living. If peaceful methods were allowed in society, it would shatter this false belief. Many people live in denial of the fact that things can get that bad that one would consider suicide and they dismiss suicidal people as always being irrational.

I think many people place some sort of value on life, as existence is all we know and naturally humans are programmed to live and survive, it is the way we have evolved.

 

[rationaltake]

Hi guys! I'm new here.
I just wonder and want to discuss this topic with someone, because I haven't any people in my life with whom I can talk about it.
See.
Our planet is overcrowded. A lot of people don't have access to healthy products, pure water, good medicine, quality education, a decent job, etc. And there are loads of people who want to die. Right now. Why do not they let us do it legally? I mean it's a pretty good way to begin solving the problem of overpopulation, isn't it?
Why should we appreciate human life so much? What's the point of this approach? Why am I supposed to be so important for humanity, if I do nothing good for it? Why not just let me pass away? It would be rather great for this planet than me dreaming about killing myself and permanently thinking about death. More space, more water, more goods, more air, and so on.
What do you think?

ps sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker

I totally agree.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Hi guys! I'm new here.
I just wonder and want to discuss this topic with someone, because I haven't any people in my life with whom I can talk about it.
See.
Our planet is overcrowded. A lot of people don't have access to healthy products, pure water, good medicine, quality education, a decent job, etc. And there are loads of people who want to die. Right now. Why do not they let us do it legally? I mean it's a pretty good way to begin solving the problem of overpopulation, isn't it?
Why should we appreciate human life so much? What's the point of this approach? Why am I supposed to be so important for humanity, if I do nothing good for it? Why not just let me pass away? It would be rather great for this planet than me dreaming about killing myself and permanently thinking about death. More space, more water, more goods, more air, and so on.
What do you think?

ps sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker

I agree 100%. I could see euthanasia gaining popularity Among those in severe and chronic pain, the terminally ill, etc. But people like us are going to have a long wait…

 

[deathLiberation]

I dont think the planet is overcrowded as it is.
But you do have billionaries with 16 room mansions that take up a lot of space. So yeah, might make some room by removing them from existence.

Now this is a mistery to me too:

And there are loads of people who want to die. Right now. Why do not they let us do it legally?

I cant see any other reason than some sort of spiritual of esoteric reward for making others suffer.
People are conditioned to see life as something extremely important. Something is feeding on the suffering of millions.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

I dont think the planet is overcrowded as it is.
But you do have billionaries with 16 room mansions that take up a lot of space. So yeah, might make some room by removing them from existence.

Now this is a mistery to me too:

I cant see any other reason than some sort of spiritual of esoteric reward for making others suffer.
People are conditioned to see life as something extremely important. Something is feeding on the suffering of millions.

I think in most peoples minds that people who are suicidal are experiencing some temporary madness or misery. And that they just need treatment and help and time to heal and improve. Allowing these people to kill themselves would preclude their recovery. And I'm sure there's lots of cases where this is absolutely true. But there's lots of people like us who have thought this through.

 

[vinie]

Interesting concept.
Firstly, overpopulation won't kill human kind. The planet can produce enough food for every single human being. The problem arises when capitalism enters the picture. I avoid blaming capitalism for everything, but the sole reason as to why poverty exists is greed. Moreover, it is ultimately not our fault that we cannot walk into a store and buy all the necessities without them being wrapped in plastic. It is also not our fault that the Western world is exploiting second and third world countries.
Nevertheless, what makes humans more 'worthy of life' than animals is our ability to self-evaluate. By the time that we enter society, we discard all our instincts and urges because of our consciousness. Ctb can be seen as an offence to this 'gift' that we have. The majority of people cannot fathom ctb because of their self-awareness, as well as the fear that comes with it. As far as science knows, humans are the only species that have thanatophonia. I suppose the act of willingly ceasing to exist scares most people, hence they do everything to prevent it from happening.

May everyone find peace within <3

 

[canna2]

We dont appreciate it. We are fooled to believe it's good by society and media.

It's not good and has never been. It was way worse before tho, with wars and shit, but it's still stupid shit.

BUT we are far more stupid people so I guess lets keep breeding suffering ! Lets keep the fuck fest going... becuase people like to fuck I guess? yep yep. Great.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

Someone on this website once posted that we are just cash generating livestock for society. The more I think about it, the more it seems like the truth. As long as you are alive you need to pay for things like food, shelter and other living expenses. It is unavoidable. You have to work and you have to consume. All the while the government and the wealthy elite skims a significant portion of every transaction.

We are all just slaves on this plantation. Religion, government, societal pressures, etc are just tools to keep us in line. There are people who will make more money in one hour than you do in an entire year. Slaving away at a miserable existence to make the rich even richer is the cherry on top of this shit sundae called life.

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

Why do we appreciate human life so much?

What? We do?

 

[NormaJeane]

If we give euthansia to all people who want to die, their meaningless suffering will end and the overpopulation will reduce. But the politicians are stupid, they are in denial of death and values human life too much in a world where we all are going to die.

 

[yana]

I see many of us think that people who want to die need some treatment to recover. You think it's a temporary thing. Maybe but let's take a different approach.
Biologically the only meaning of everyone's life is to produce as many people as we can, right? To continue your bloodline. To serve the evolution.
And the main purpose of evolution is to produce animals that are strong, smart, etc. To produce animals who are supposed to live as long as possible.
We don't exactly know what diseases can be inherited. But imagine: wild time, no civilization at all, and some people who don't want to live for some reason; what would they do? apparently, they would try to kill themself. so they would delete themself from you know 'human line'. maybe it's right for humanity in general.
So. If we want to die even if it's temporary perhaps it would be wiser to give us what we want? Just not to spoil the human genome.

 

[Darkover]

the elite need slaves to work terrible horrible jobs in shitholes and hellholes
plus we're being used for medical research by big pharmaceutical company there's profit to be made in the sick and dying
if there was a shop where anyone could go and buy a peaceful method to die there would be no one here cause we all just leave this shitty horrible life
it's not in their interest to let all those who want to be freed to leave cause who's going to do all the crappy horrible jobs.
i just wish we all had a inbuilt way to cease functioning then this would be a dead planet like the rest of the universe
am willing to bet we never make it off this planet and we're running into the ground got 200 years at best to get out into space.

 

[Insomniac]

life itself (not human life in particular) is just mysterious. It just rises out of nowhere. as if nonexistence wasn't satisfying enough.

 

[Soapie]

I think that the idea that the planet is overpopulated is a pretty common argument in ecofascism. Life will always grow and it's not a good idea to encourage it to stop. There's more than enough resources for everyone, it's just that people love to horde it. I think our problem is less so overpopulation and more so the greed of the upper class. Jeff Bezos could solve world hunger and still be a billionaire. I think that's why human life is still valuable. The 99% of people just trying to get by aren't being selfish by existing. We're all just doing our best and trying to navigate life the best we can. All life is still important.

 

[layne2001]

Because the world is religious. Most people think committing suicide is either a sin or that it is unethical or just wrong.
I get the urge to ask and discuss these questions from our point of view, but being suicidal we're the exception of a rule, the rule being that most people don't actually want to die despite suffering.. they really want life to be good. They want happiness, not nothingness (like we do). The state of being alive wouldn't bother most people if they had good lives. But some will never understand why go through all of this and will always want to be turned off like a machine. That is my case.
It's survival instinct as well. Culturally, politically, socially speaking etc no one is raised to think suicide is okay or a goal; because it isn't, it's the most atrocious act someone can do against themselves, it goes against the human nature to stay alive despite everything else. What you're actually taught is that life is precious.
I get you and your point of view, though, because once you reach this state of mind of nihilism you genuinely can't comprehend why isn't the entire world planning a mass suicide event

 

[ClownMe]

Because it's all we know and all we have. Life is shit but there's nothing else but this life.

 

[callme]

Who does?!

 

[Wrennie]

We don't appreciate human life. If we did, the following article would apply to us as well:

What Vets Wish You Knew About Euthanasia

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