Why do people want to stop us from catching the bus?

[52yoandmiserable]

I understand the religious nuts. They are just trying to thrust their beliefs on us.
But why would anyone else care?
It's my fucking life.
I'm not asking anyone to pay for my method or even assist me. I am not making you watch me take my last breath. I have no one relying on me for anything. I have $18 in credit card debt and another $2500 in student loans.
No one needs me here. I have no special gift or talent or skills to share.
Why is it anyone's business if I go to sleep and never wake up?

 

[Darkover]

because if euthanasia was legalized everyone would just leave it would set of a mass exodus of everyone leaving at the same time
life isn't easy and there's a lot of hardship involved losing a loved one is one of the hardest things to overcome why deal with it if you can just leave by being euthanasia

 

[Ambivalent1]

Because misery loves company

 

[boblong]

Maybe the governments need slaves to work for them ?

 

[NeverReallyHere]

It's about power. If you have power over someone, allowing them to easily and painlessly end their own lives at a time their choosing greatly diminishes that power. This means it's in the interests of powerful individuals and institutions to maintain as many social and institutional barriers to suicide as possible (at least for those who are still deemed "socially useful").

 

[ever so lonely]

neverreallyhere that is the best reasoning i have ever seen, and makes the most sense tho i would say that they want to keep even the socially useless such as myself trapped here too, and seem rather hellbent on doing so, these same twats will belittle us call us attention seekers when we initial ask for help, as nauseum then when we take steps like ordering sn send the cops out to us, joke, the whole corrupt stinking system is rigged beyond belief, hard work no longer benefits people either, i dunno depressing al round.

 

[TraumaEscapee:)]

The answer depends on the situation. Some people want others to live because they care about them, sometimes there are financial motives and sometimes it's because the person who will be left behind doesn't want to be lonely. It becomes more sinister when the person abusing the suicidal person doesn't want them to leave because they want to continue abusing them, they want to continue controlling them. It's what I've been through domestic abuse and domestic violence. Although it was my relatives who abused me not any partners.

 

[Pidgeons_Sparrows]

I understand the religious nuts. They are just trying to thrust their beliefs on us.
But why would anyone else care?
It's my fucking life.
I'm not asking anyone to pay for my method or even assist me. I am not making you watch me take my last breath. I have no one relying on me for anything. I have $18 in credit card debt and another $2500 in student loans.
No one needs me here. I have no special gift or talent or skills to share.
Why is it anyone's business if I go to sleep and never wake up?

people want you to live because they think they can benefit off you


people are selfish
pro lifers motivations are always in their own interest
the government invests into suicide prevention only because suicides cost them millions in lost tax revenue

once you become useless to them and they realize, they become bitter and dont care about your CTB anymore

i am speaking from experience

 

[ThisIsLife]

Because we won't be usefull anymore. Can't tax the dead.

 

[FuneralCry]

I think that the main reason as to why this society is so anti suicide is because the society needs workers which is why people tell lies about suicide supposedly being "irrational", many non suicidal people are brainwashed into believing this so therefore they see suicide as something to cruelly stop people from going through with.
In many cases, trying to force somebody to delay their inevitable fate is driven by selfishness and delusions, many people don't wish to accept that existence is just an unnecessary harm in which wanting suicide is a perfectly logical response to.

But other people really should have no right to interfere with the right to die as if suicide isn't accepted as a basic human right then existing is no different to slavery and imprisonment, it's tragic how so many people wish to make us slaves to suffering until we cease existing anyway. Pro lifers repulse me.

 

[pphinquiry]

I know this sounds dumb and conspiratorial, but besides the momentum of it being an old taboo, I think it comes down to maintaining the workforce. To many poor people would press the button if they had an easy way out which would decimate the labor force.

I'm not generally conspiratorial but this is my belief

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I think most are just bible-thumpers and want to impose their belief structure on others. They're so stupid that they don't even realize that jesus himself actually committed suicide. The way he died was the equivalent today of suicide-by-cop. He HAD to have known that what he was doing was going to result in EXACTLY what happened to him. There's no way he couldn't have know that - look at who his father was. Now, I don't particularly believe in any of this. I'm merely stating what is written in the bible.

 

[FinalBossu]

The Machine can't function without its cogs

 

[TAW122]

I think most are just bible-thumpers and want to impose their belief structure on others. They're so stupid that they don't even realize that jesus himself actually committed suicide. The way he died was the equivalent today of suicide-by-cop. He HAD to have known that what he was doing was going to result in EXACTLY what happened to him. There's no way he couldn't have know that - look at who his father was. Now, I don't particularly believe in any of this. I'm merely stating what is written in the bible.

Absolutely on point. As someone who attended church many years ago (haven't been in many years and was never religious myself), I just saw how ridiculous that even the religious people refuse to acknowledge, let alone see that Jesus himself CTB'd, albeit in a very painful manner. Instead, these religious people see it as a self-sacrifice.

 

[fuzzy-clown]

Some people CTB while emotionally charged while in crisis. Maybe those types of people are saveable if they wait it out. Not everyone is the type that have already decided that CTB is what they really want in life.

 

[sulli]

$18?

 

[glitterypearls]

you are worth more alive than dead.

in the therapy world. they make bank off you even when you don't want to go by being forced into a mental hospital.

you decided to be against therapy? they will make bank off you trying to numb your depression with drugs, alcohol and silly little hobbies.

why would they want the cash cow to die?

 

[BlazingBob]

Because they are sadistic

 

[DazaiKinnie]

I understand the religious nuts. They are just trying to thrust their beliefs on us.
But why would anyone else care?
It's my fucking life.
I'm not asking anyone to pay for my method or even assist me. I am not making you watch me take my last breath. I have no one relying on me for anything. I have $18 in credit card debt and another $2500 in student loans.
No one needs me here. I have no special gift or talent or skills to share.
Why is it anyone's business if I go to sleep and never wake up?

They mostly stroke their own egos when doing something like that, thr feel that they "saved" someone when in reality they did nothing. For them if they want to live then others might want the same thing right?
Another point is that they are selfish, they want to benefic off your back, sometimes emotionally like your family that they will be sad and always guilt trip you with that like you are some sort of property of theirs or something.
That's my experience at least.

 

[WorthlessCoward]

They want to catch the bus first and they're willing to cut in line, like when you don't wait for the bus passengers to exit before you enter to get a good sseat

 

[iamalreadydead]

all of these responses are pretty disconnected from reality although mostly true in some regard

the real reason is because people don't want their friends/family gone, and the idea of people killing themselves is upsetting/negative to the average healthy person. simple as.

but really ofc no one actually gives a shit about randos killing themselves, in their heads they like to believe they do and that's all that matters. We're very cut off here. "Killing yourself = bad, let's make sure people can't kill themselves".. it's not done maliciously. It's a facade, but it isn't malicious lol

that being said there is still absolutely a conspiracy to make it extremely hard for people to kill themselves for reasons like, upkeeping societal structures etc

 

[52yoandmiserable]

$18?

Mostly because i have had so many crappy low paying jobs in my life that no one would even think of giving me a credit card. I lost my house to foreclosure. Every car i have ever had was at best a $1500 used POS. Everything else is paid off

 

[aimless_arrow]

They're so stupid that they don't even realize that jesus himself actually committed suicide. The way he died was the equivalent today of suicide-by-cop.

That's funny, I've never thought of it that way

I think besides preserving the labour pool and wanting their loved ones to stay, perhaps the reason people are so averse to CTB is they don't want to believe there exists complete hopelessness. They think that if you just go to therapy, find a better psychologist, talk to loved ones, try more treatment methods, etc you can eventually recover. It's too scary for them to accept that for some people, there is no more hope and purpose. It's a nihilistic notion that's way too foreign and depressing for the layperson who is conditioned by optimism.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

It's certainly something that's fair to ponder. Of course friends and families don't want their loved ones to die but the systems that are designed to "help" the suicidal person are filled with apathy and contempt if not outright sadism that one can't help but wonder why they even care to intervene.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think there are three main elements- religious- 'Don't commit suicide- you'll go to hell.' Emotional- suicide very likely devastates families and economical- most of us are just wage slaves and consumers.

In terms of governments/ authorities- I suspect all three elements come in to play. Religion to my mind has always gone hand in hand with state law. If punishment in prison doesn't frighten you- perhaps eternal damnation in hell fire might. I suspect certain religious bodies would strongly oppose the introduction of assisted suicide globally and some of these groups likely have a lot of money and power.

Families and most especially parents get VERY angry and VERY upset about suicides- 'Why wasn't my child protected?' type of thing. It's probably too much work for governments to actually try and fix root causes- as in- why are people so desperate to die in the first place? So- preventing the actual act seems to be their priority. I doubt many parents would be thrilled if governments start permiting teenagers to get assisted suicide... Parents vote!

Economically- it's obvious that they want people alive and paying taxes and buying shit that has VAT on.

I think there is also this concern of the floodgates being opened. Once a few people do it- maybe more will consider it as an option. Suicide I think can run in families and I also doubt governments want to start losing citizens en masse.

 

[HyperdimensionLoser]

Funerals are really expensive apparently ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯. Something to keep in mind in case there's anyone you're leaving behind that cares enough about you

 

[Someone123]

I think a lot of the people doing this were once suicidal and recovered and they want to help people to recover, otr they knew someone who recovred- or who didn't make it who they thought could have recovered. So much of this is driven by loving parents of college age kids who ctbd who tehy could have helped if they knew there was an issue. From seeing interviews with these parents I think these kids had a great chance of recovery if onhly their parnets knew. SO I think they have realy good intentions, but I think they don't undertand how different it is when your parents have been abusers your whole life- sometimes recovery just doesn't work out, and people need to stop the pain. They don't undertand that letting some people stop the pain is sometimes the best thing for them. There is no easy way to tell who will recover or who won't, it's not an easy issue.

 

[sulli]

Mostly because i have had so many crappy low paying jobs in my life that no one would even think of giving me a credit card. I lost my house to foreclosure. Every car i have ever had was at best a $1500 used POS. Everything else is paid off

i got a settlement offer in the mail from at&t yesterday for a $180 bill bc i have no wages for them to garnish so i guess they finally gave up

 

[silent star]

At the end of the day no one asked to be in this life if you wish to live it good for you that's your decision but why can't they understand not everyone wants that we're just put into this life and everyone expects you to live it and if you don't want to you get called selfish isn't it way more selfish to force someone to live alive they clearly don't want because you want them to

We should have the right to choose

 

[PurpleParadigm]

Because there is stopping and then there is stopping.

You can stop someone by helping them find purpose in life, a fulfilling occupation, foster environments where supportive, non-toxic communities exist that can help people thrive. Things like that. Make mental health support cheap and readily available

But that is hard. It is much easier to close all avenues of escape, destroy communities where this topics can be discussed openly, demonize suicidal people, sic police on them. It's simple and wins you political points.