Why aren't you in another online community to adress your problems?

[noname223]

Many people want this place to shut down. But nowhere else I have this feeling that I belong there. I could not fully open up without being judged. I looked at several different online communities. I was called crazy for wanting to have assisted suicide, people gawked at my threads about suicide, left mean and hurtful comments. In other forums they all have this mantra if you try hard enough there will be a solution. For me this is simply a lie. For some people like me it does not get better. At least not better in the sense that I want to continue living. I think such platitudes always blame the victim because allegedly it did not try hard enough.

Other people compare their temporary struggles with my long-term severe suicidality with the motto "If I could make, you can do it too."
I have read bad stuff about reddit @WornOutLife said people mocked him there for his suicidal thoughts. Under the videos of Adam Maier-Clayton (right to die activist and former member of SS when it was on reddit) people write he is now hopefully in hell after his suicide, downplay his pain and so on. I really admire his strength because he fought for the right thing. Despite all his pain and mockery. I would not have had the same strength.

I don't know any community with the same support that I get here. Many people know here how severe suicidality feels like. Many know how it feels to be abused/mistreated. When I opened up noone ever mocked me. The people here know how it feels how unfair life can be.

Oh and don't forget all the censorship. In pro-life forums you are not even allowed to say that you want to have assisted suicide. Which is against my ethics to censor that. This place is not perfect. But it is way better than Facebook, Reddit, Twitter and so on and so on.
If you are as vulnerable as me every hurtful comment about your suicidality is like spiting on my grave.

It is no wonder this website attracts more than 6 million views a month. And I suppose this number rather is growing.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Exactly, there is no other place to get support like is given here at SS.

If SS is shut down we're just left with worse options. We'll continue to use the internet and find/remake sites unless they ban the internet as well. So always, basically.

 

[Darkover]

every other forum or social media site is highly censored, the other suicide forums on the internet clear don't like suicidal people talking about suicide

 

[Sherri]

@wournout life was a dear friend of me, he js very sweet, helped so many in here, had his own pic up. I'm so sad he's gone, and wishing one day he will be back…

 

[Callie Arcale]

Because in every other community I have visited people say things such as:

Life is a gift.
Don't lose hope.
It will get better.
You just have to fight.
What doesn't kill you make you stronger.
You're here for a reason.
and so on and so forth…

Oh, and let's not forget my favourite:

Have you tried therapy, yoga and exercise?

 

[LoveTakesManyForms]

I'm already addressing my problems in real life. I already run the nauseating gauntlet of medical treatments.
I just want a decent quality of life. It has been so difficult for such a long time now.
Not all problems can merely be "addressed"; a pep talk doesn't help the severe nerve pain I experience on a daily basis. It doesn't allow me more than a few hours of sleep a night so I can feel like a human being and not an insane, sleep deprived lunatic.
So I turn to the only option available to me when I can't cope: suicide. I have no options anymore.

 

[peepo]

every other forum or social media site is highly censored, the other suicide forums on the internet clear don't like suicidal people talking about suicide

Yes, I agree. I feel it will lead to more suicides because you wont be able to express your feelings without getting censored. It certainly had an effect on me. I used r/suicidewatch and posted a goodbye thread and it got removed. I felt like shit and makes me want to ctb even more.

 

[FuneralCry]

As others have said, this is the only place where you can talk openly about suicide without hearing toxic positivity and platitudes. The only thing I ever have to talk about is that my life is not worth living.

 

[Bleak]

There's nowhere I actually address my problems, just distract and run away from them. But it is nice to be somewhere where other people are open about their misery and suffering, because most places you have to put on a mask and hide it.

 

[juraviel]

if somebody would tell you 'yes you're right, suicide is the only option' it'd be unethical, be it here or elsewhere.

can you really blame others for trying to save you.

 

[LoveTakesManyForms]

As others have said, this is the only place where you can talk openly about suicide without hearing toxic positivity and platitudes. The only thing I ever have to talk about is that my life is not worth living.

Your profile pic is haunting. I feel like it cuts through to the core of how it feels to be severely suicidal. Something about the wicked appearance of the apparition above the girl- so tormenting, so panic inducing.
Why can't love heal wounds. If I just hugged you tight enough you'd want to live. Why can't we save each other and have to face the same horror again and again until we die.
Why is being human so horrifically agonising for some yet so fantastic for others?
I used to love life. Now that all the good is gone there's nothing left, only empty memories of what was.
I never thought it'd all end so quickly.
Sorry for the rant- severely sleep deprived and in a lot of pain.

 

[Callie Arcale]

can you really blame others for trying to save you.

Yeah, I can blame them for parroting hollowed-out phrases about the preciousness of life. I can blame them for living un-reflected lives and spewing out lies and selling fairy tales.

If you really think about the atrocity of this world - children being molested as we speak, women being beaten black and blue, people starving, being imprisoned due to their beliefs or sexual orientation, soldiers flying down in pieces from the sky to the great diversion of politicians… and so on, if you really think about all this, then you can never say that life is a gift.

"Don't nobody go tryin' to save my ass" as someone once aptly put it.

 

[Ryscatto]

I came here because I was sick of platitudes.

"Permanent solution to a temporary problem" bro my autism's not going anywhere.

I posted on r/suicidewatch recently and one person's response to me saying that I was only staying alive for my mother and partner was "you should want to live for yourself, not others!" And it's like, yeah not shit. But I just don't want to and haven't found a way to force that feeling so

 

[finalexit]

Same as what's already been said here. I have found no other supports or community that is this open/supportive/understanding/honest when it comes to talking about suicide and how painful life is

 

[Rayzieka]

Another thing I love about the energy in this forum is when we talk about our problems here, not only do people not tell us to tough it out- but they don't immediately try to one up your bad experience to show you that their life is so much worse so they can tell you its no reason to die.

 

[motel rooms]

if somebody would tell you 'yes you're right, suicide is the only option' it'd be unethical, be it here or elsewhere.

If I got diagnosed with a torturous terminal illness & someone agreed with me that suicide is the only option for me, would that person's behavior be unethical? Also, does merely agreeing with someone necessarily constitute encouragement?

 

[Mynameisnotimportant]

Just here because my account is old and I return every once just to give a recovery example. And because I know everyone here is judgement free where I can say how I truly feel without having to reassure someone that I'm not going to take my life

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Reddit is over-moderated and cucked, incels.is has too much anger/misogyny/etc, not sure what other options there are. And this site is obviously focused on the real solution to my life-long problems that are extremely unlikely to be fixed.

"Permanent solution to a temporary problem" bro my autism's not going anywhere.

I posted on r/suicidewatch recently and one person's response to me saying that I was only staying alive for my mother and partner was "you should want to live for yourself, not others!" And it's like, yeah not shit. But I just don't want to and haven't found a way to force that feeling so

What's your secret?

 

[Crazy4u]

my problems don't have solutions

 

[yive]

there is too much pro-life bullshit on other sites, you can't even discuss methods and talk about how you really feel

 

[Dragon's Heart]

Because in every other community I have visited people say things such as:

Life is a gift.
Don't lose hope.
It will get better.
You just have to fight.
What doesn't kill you make you stronger.
You're here for a reason.
and so on and so forth…

Oh, and let's not forget my favourite:

Have you tried therapy, yoga and exercise?

Yes, I think what many don't realize is that the point of suicidality is reached because someone is exhausted mentally and/or physically and simply cannot go any further. The fighting is no longer worth it- all we do as human beings is fight incessantly about EVERYTHING. Have you noticed that almost all movies or stories are about struggling and fighting no matter what the subject is? It's constant and some of us are just too tired to carry on.

 

[Superdeterminist]

A comment about Maier-Clayton; he was only interested in a right-to-die for the terminally ill/those in severe physical pain, and didn't support its extension to anyone else. Not exactly an ally, imo. RIP nonetheless.

 

[noname223]

A comment about Maier-Clayton; he was only interested in a right-to-die for the terminally ill/those in severe physical pain, and didn't support its extension to anyone else. Not exactly an ally, imo. RIP nonetheless.

Oh I did not know this. Thank you. I also know he thought antinatalists were crazy.

 

[Simba]

I came here because I was sick of platitudes.

"Permanent solution to a temporary problem" bro my autism's not going anywhere.

I posted on r/suicidewatch recently and one person's response to me saying that I was only staying alive for my mother and partner was "you should want to live for yourself, not others!" And it's like, yeah not shit. But I just don't want to and haven't found a way to force that feeling so

I can relate.. i also have autism some people think oh theyll be a cure someday or what not like i personally always have this dilemma whether to be myself and potentially pay the price or to try be like everyone else n try fit in it just sucks n frustrating when you try to understand the other side but unable to do so well n when other side dont quite get you either eventually you just get tired from trying to explain n what not.. is like no matter how many times you try you still gonna stay stuck..

 

[noname223]

I can relate.. i also have autism some people think oh theyll be a cure someday or what not like i personally always have this dilemma whether to be myself and potentially pay the price or to try be like everyone else n try fit in it just sucks n frustrating when you try to understand the other side but unable to do so well n when other side dont quite get you either eventually you just get tired from trying to explain n what not.. is like no matter how many times you try you still gonna stay stuck..

I have met a guy in clinic. He had autism and you barely recognized that. He was bullied in the past and tried extremely hard to act normal.
I was also bullied in the past for other reasons. So I developed other schemes to deal with it. He told me something like it is important you have to act like everyone else in order to fit in. I thought it was kind of sad that he had to become an actor in order to get accepted.

 

[myopybyproxy]

if somebody would tell you 'yes you're right, suicide is the only option' it'd be unethical, be it here or elsewhere.

can you really blame others for trying to save you.

Not to speak for anyone else here, but personally, that isn't what I would want to hear. I simply seek the recognition and respect that as a human being, I may choose to exercise my right to die. Instead of having bullshit positivity shoved down my throat whenever I open up about my real philosophy and emotional / mental state. And / or being forced into involuntary imprisonment, whereupon I am only released from captivity when I obediently regurgitate the pro-life propaganda with which they inundate me and fellow inmates. I wish to be seen as an equal. A contemporary.

Yet in society at large - both online and in vitro - the paternalistic attitude toward those who don't buy into the bullshit does not allow this. At best, you get a pity pat on the head. At worst, you are sectioned due to being 'a danger to yourself'. So I sought out this website. Even other mental health forums are corrupted with the same hyperpositivity doctrine. There is no room for discontent.

Whilst I take issue with your first sentence, I acknowledge your second statement holds water. Humans are inherently and intrinsically selfish. They do not wish to contemplate the reasons why people kill themselves - that causes too much cognitive dissonance - because they know how they treated those people. So they project their insecurity onto the deceased - apparently respect for the dead is only granted to those who die by societally approved means - and condemn suicide as selfish. When in reality they are being selfish in acting thusly. They avoid taking responsibility or changing their behaviour and get to be the hero.

From the perspective of human nature alone, it makes sense that others would fight against the decision to die. They call suicide crazy and illogical because were they to consider its merits they would be calling themselves crazy. Everyone wants to see themselves in their own best light.