Why are there so many posts about SN?

[ctb7767]

From what I can tell, SN has the potential to be painful. Why is there not as much activity about something like N2, which is completely painless? Is there something I'm missing?

 

[tary]

I guess it's easier to mix powder into water than to build an exit rig.
SN will be my primary method, the most I've heard about pain from it is the slight headache you get, which they advise you to take painkillers for.
But I'm not afraid of a little pain, as long as I'll eventually pass out and be gone.

 

[releasespieces]

Ease of use. If you can get the gas, the necessary equipment, have space for it, aren't concerned for the safety of others while gas continues to leak out after you're dead… then go for it. SN isn't painless, but it's also not as painful as some are making it out to be. There has been a disproportionate amount of SN posters lately who aren't following protocol and then reporting about the dangers of using SN as a method. Apparently we aren't allowed to question what motives these people might have by misleading the community. My guess is that these potential prolifers will continue to infiltrate the site because they are being supported by it.

 

[ctb7767]

How are you so certain that it isn't painful? I'm not really sure what to believe

 

[tary]

How are you so certain that it isn't painful? I'm not really sure what to believe

Where did you get the idea that it would be painful? My conception of it is based on all the various SN guides I've found on this site.

 

[peacetime]

A lot of members have managed to post for like 10 minutes after taking it, and have reported no pain. I doubt it's very painful.
As for why so many posts about it, ease of use, access and success rate. It's a great way to CTB, if one is going to CTB.

 

[releasespieces]

No one is saying it is painless. Go get your gas rig if you don't like SN.

 

[outrider567]

From what I can tell, SN has the potential to be painful. Why is there not as much activity about something like N2, which is completely painless? Is there something I'm missing?

SN doesn't cost anything, while N2 set up can cost $600--Also some are intimidated by needing to buy the tank, the regulator, the flowmeter ,the tubing ,the EEDB hood or making an Exit Bag

 

[ctb7767]

A lot of members have managed to post for like 10 minutes after taking it, and have reported no pain. I doubt it's very painful.
As for why so many posts about it, ease of use, access and success rate. It's a great way to CTB, if one is going to CTB.

Huh. Could you link some posts if you have them?

 

[DeepDespair101]

I can think of a number of reasons SN is more popular than N2. Cost, ease of use, ease of access, concealment, less set up, etc.

 

[jessisme]

SN doesn't cost anything, while N2 set up can cost $600--Also some are intimidated by needing to buy the tank, the regulator, the flowmeter ,the tubing ,the EEDB hood or making an Exit Bag

SN does cost something. It's just far less than other methods. Exit is available for under one hundred dollars with SN which is part of the appeal.

 

[TimetoGo!]

From what I can tell, SN has the potential to be painful. Why is there not as much activity about something like N2, which is completely painless? Is there something I'm missing?

I agree.....dont understand the SN hype on here. very risky method IMO

 

[FuneralCry]

Because SN is a reliable method and if people say that it's 'very risky' then that's just wrong. So many people have died from it, and SN will kill people if they follow the correct protocol, it's a poison after all.

 

[Ireallysuck999]

When done right lethal

 

[LaVieEnRose]

If tanks of pure helium were as available as they were years ago, inert gas would probably be more popular.

 

[byebyered]

Easy to get (idk if it still is) easy steps to accomplish what you want..doesn't have to be painful if you take the right medications with it

 

[sincerelysad]

i think a big reason is also because it doesn't cause any lasting disabilities right? and the rating it has in the PPeH are higher than most other methods bc of peacefulness, accessibility, etc.

i would love to ctb using an exit bag or gas of some kind but it's far too risky in terms of lasting damage if i fail. SN doesn't have that risk. (plus the money thing! that's a huge factor. many people cannot afford gas and equipment, etc, but can afford to order SN and take some ibuprofen and tums)

 

[random_user]

First of all, getting a proper inert gas setup usually is pretty expensive - significantly more expensive than SN (if you happen to find a reliable source).
Personally although I prefer the peacefulness of inert gas, I'd potentially go for SN instead since if you fail, there won't be any lasting consequences. Worst case scenario with inert gas method is surviving but being in a state where you cannot try again due to disabilities.

 

[almostoutofhere]

There's about 70-80% success rate.
It's easily accessible and cheap
Passing is quick/fairly painless compared to other methods.

 

[Barteljaap]

My guess is that these potential prolifers will continue to infiltrate the site because they are being supported by it.

I don't see genuine prolifers doing the research necessary to make these posts...

One other ulterior motive could be the N scammers trying to scare people away from SN.

Idk

 

[sunsetting]

It's easy as everyone said and usually doesn't raise any red flags about what you're planning. It's not like you're hoarding hundreds of meds or got a noose stashed somewhere and can't explain yourself if anyone finds out. With SN you can just say you want to preserve meat or something.

 

[releasespieces]

I don't see genuine prolifers doing the research necessary to make these posts...

One other ulterior motive could be the N scammers trying to scare people away from SN.

Idk

What research? You have to understand, these people are religious fanatics that are convinced they are doing "gods" or "jesus" will, they are doing it for team god, little will stop these people if they are convinced they need to stop suicides. How hard is it to figure out that SN is a popular method here, it's in the news? As far as preparation goes, these members do no research and do not follow protocol, they are making very little effort as it is. They join for a couple days and then make a horrible, unprepared attempt at using SN, then post about the horrors of SN and how it doesn't work and they just got sick. If you are a new user learning about SN wouldn't you need time to gather the supplies, maybe 2-3 weeks before you complain about your method, it doesnt add up at all.

There is a world wide shortage of N, they have no competition related to SN because there is no product.

 

[Barteljaap]

What research? You have to understand, these people are religious fanatics that are convinced they are doing "gods" or "jesus" will, they are doing it for team god, little will stop these people if they are convinced they need to stop suicides. How hard is it to figure out that SN is a popular method here, it's in the news? As far as preparation goes, these members do no research and do not follow protocol, they are making very little effort as it is. They join for a couple days and then make a horrible, unprepared attempt at using SN, then post about the horrors of SN and how it doesn't work and they just got sick. If you are a new user learning about SN wouldn't you need time to gather the supplies, maybe 2-3 weeks before you complain about your method, it doesnt add up at all.

There is a world wide shortage of N, they have no competition related to SN because there is no product.

Much of my family is religious. I know what religious people are like and this is not the kind of thing they do. They will push for things to be banned - for this site to be banned, for tighter border controls, criminalize assisted suicide, etc. They will pray for you, and they will tell you they are praying for you and send you religious articles. All the while being judgmental about your problems, telling you that despair is a sin, and so on.

But writing reports of fake suicide attempts is not what this kind of person does. Trust me, religious people will not even want to look at this website, let alone make an account on it. They will find it too disturbing. Plus lying is considered a sin, especially when it pertains to something so serious.

Fake suicide reports require a person who is somewhat in a dark place themselves.

 

[freelifexit]

From what I can tell, SN has the potential to be painful.

There are several cases that where painful and can't breathe, most cases are only discomforting, some cases even peaceful. Everybody reacts different. Here you can find more info about peaceful and painful attempts.

Why is there not as much activity about something like N2, which is completely painless? Is there something I'm missing?

N2 is also popular here, this megathread is updated several times per week.

 

[Dominicka]

Much of my family is religious. I know what religious people are like and this is not the kind of thing they do. They will push for things to be banned - for this site to be banned, for tighter border controls, criminalize assisted suicide, etc. They will pray for you, and they will tell you they are praying for you and send you religious articles. All the while being judgmental about your problems, telling you that despair is a sin, and so on.

But writing reports of fake suicide attempts is not what this kind of person does. Trust me, religious people will not even want to look at this website, let alone make an account on it. They will find it too disturbing. Plus lying is considered a sin, especially when it pertains to something so serious.

Fake suicide reports require a person who is somewhat in a dark place themselves.

I hear what you're saying, but I happen to think it's absolutely something they might do. At the end of the day, religious fanatics are still human. And hypocrites. I mean…..catholic priests….need I say more?

When not putting on a show in church or volunteering or pretending to be such a great person, they definitely would come here and try to fuck with us.

 

[releasespieces]

Much of my family is religious. I know what religious people are like and this is not the kind of thing they do. They will push for things to be banned - for this site to be banned, for tighter border controls, criminalize assisted suicide, etc. They will pray for you, and they will tell you they are praying for you and send you religious articles. All the while being judgmental about your problems, telling you that despair is a sin, and so on.

But writing reports of fake suicide attempts is not what this kind of person does. Trust me, religious people will not even want to look at this website, let alone make an account on it. They will find it too disturbing. Plus lying is considered a sin, especially when it pertains to something so serious.

Fake suicide reports require a person who is somewhat in a dark place themselves.

You win. Let's celebrate!

 

[GasMonkey]

aren't concerned for the safety of others while gas continues to leak out after you're dead

A room has too much air for an inert gas leak to be dangerous.

If tanks of pure helium were as available as they were years ago, inert gas would probably be more popular.

Pure Nitrogen is available worldwide.

@ctb7767 A proper inert gas setup is 100% guaranteed death in 5~10 minutes. There is a reason why is the method with the highest rating in the PPeH (and that's only taking into account the manually crafted ExitBag, not even accounting for the newer, better and superior implementations like Hoods or SCBA).

 

[releasespieces]

A room has too much air for an inert gas leak to be dangerous.


Pure Nitrogen is available worldwide.

@ctb7767 A proper inert gas setup is 100% guaranteed death in 5~10 minutes. There is a reason why is the method with the highest rating in the PPeH (and that's only taking into account the manually crafted ExitBag, not even accounting for the newer, better and superior implementations like Hoods or SCBA).

Thanks for the education, wasn't aware, thought I had read it was dangerous…my bad.