Why are people so happy to procreate too much?

[tercermundista]

Have you seen the movie "Idiocracy"? The people who reproduce the most are the imbeciles, and this world is increasingly full of imbeciles... This world is so full of incoherent idiots that the day it rains nuclear bombs, I'll cry with joy.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

they have beliefs such as "life is good sacred a gift " and "having children is a good thing".

I think life is a horrible abomination

For a book of reasons. .just 1 reason is that so many different horrible things can trap any human in extreme suffering or unbearable pain.

Imo i guess most people have to be heavily programmed not to know Remember or keep in mind that many horrible things can happen to any human including themselves or their children . And also not understand how bad the horrible things can be and how bad suffering or pain can be. Pain and suffering can be much worse than any pleasure addiction. For example what is worth even 60 seconds of the worst constant most unbearable worst pain?

What is a human ? cells, brain cells , a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain.

How many people have seen this or know a human is just a brain brain cells which are called neurons. This is what is going on in a human brain neurons connecting to form the nightmare of extreme pain

 

[Eriktf]

it might be hard for ppl on here to understand but there are a lot of ppl in the word that are happy with life, there even psychos that enjoy life belive it or not

and who like to do the deed with rubber its easy to get pregnant by mistake, who know i might be a dad right now wayout knowing

its also in our dna to procreate

 

[Flyleaves]

Coming from someone without children. I think procreation is our most basic instinct drive. Basically its the reason why we big apes are here is to make more of us.

But we grew to self aware and nature created an aspect of ourselves and we think we all mean something and have a dream of being a person.

Self consciousness is our biggest curse.

 

[Dejected 55]

I think the shortest answer to this whole thread is... You should be free to choose whether or not you want to have children. But you should NOT be able to choose whether anyone else chooses to have children. Also, no one should shame you for not wanting children. Similarly, you should NOT shame someone else for wanting them.

It's fair to criticize someone who obviously harms children or is harmful to their own children... but merely having children is not a form of harm. Similarly, saying you shouldn't have children if you are poor or in a war zone or whatever is just not proper. At best it sounds elitist as if only the perfect people (in your opinion) in the perfect situation (also in your opinion) should be "allowed" to have them.

True, many of us do not want to be here, wish we were never born, or are looking for a way out now... but nobody can possibly know that before we are here. Plenty of people do actually rise from struggles to thrive... and plenty of people are born into good situations but struggle despite having a leg-up in the beginning of their lives. Again, there is no way to know how someone or their life will turn out before it happens.

We are all entitled to our opinions on whether or not we have children... but not entitled to impose them on others.

 

[ididnotconsent]

I mean, points for consistency I guess. But that's how you get genocide. One side kills the other and no children to carry on or rebuild later. That seems sad to me.

Children shouldn't be brought into this world to rebuild or fix whatever serious generational fuck ups the adults started. It's pretty selfish.

And no one is talking about imposing a child-free lifestyle on others. That is some Nazi Hitler stuff and I'm completely against that. I agree that no one should shame or ridicule anyone for having kids, but you are not immune from indirect criticism. And that's my last 2 cents on this post.

 

[divinemistress36]

Im wired different I always knew since I was a kid that life is mostly suffering and never wanted to pass my depression genes on to a kid. Been on birth control since I was a young adult its a beautiful invention . I asked my mom about why people have kids when there is so much suffering in the world and she said that most people are happy. Are they though? Some of us are different and think about how we dont want to pass on suffering. Most people dont think about it and run by their ape brains

 

[shady868]

Sex feels nice, and most people cant think 3 weeks ahead much less 3 years or 30.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

This is where depression is actually a blessing for me. I have zero interest in life or having kids, I don't have that drive at all. Maybe it's all thanks to my depression and anhedonia. I was diagnosed with an underactive thyroid recently and if I'd wanted kids I probably wouldn't have been able to have them or would've had multiple miscarriages until I got medicated. So I feel like depression saved me from a lot of disappointments. I actually feel incredibly lucky in that way to not want these things. Silver lining and all that anyway it's just not true to blanket say that all humans have some crazy strong drive they have no ability to control. The reason normies breed is because they can't sit with uncomfortable feelings and don't like to feel depressed. Having kids gives them hope-and they don't care about the fate of their kids because they're not deep enough to even contemplate it. The normies don't think, they just do.

You can't bend the world to your will - your opinion is really just meaningless. A wall isn't going to break if you bash your head against it a thousand times, you'll just end up hurting your own head.

I think the problem us antinatalists have is that it seems parents are doing exactly that-forcing life on people who could never consent to it. To me they are malevolent beings trying to exert their power and control on others. Most people just don't think deeply enough to ever realise this.