Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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To suffer and be cursed into an existence we never wanted.
Sorry to say but we never were given a choice or chance. We were FORCED into this wretched excuse called"Life".
We are indeed forced into this living hell.
I also think being alive is empty, exhausting, lonely, miserable to the point I don't see any reason to continue on existing and pursuing anything. Deep inside, I'm a dried up corpse waiting to be put into a relieving eternal sleep so I don't have to wake up pretending like some things are worth fighting for. I don't want to be in this reality any longer.
Procreation is indeed an immoral act. Parents roll the dice and we pay the price. It's a very sad truth, and the best we can do is not to perpetuate the vicious cycle. Please do not reproduce under any circumstances.
This doesn't seem to be a common view but if we know it for a fact that you started to exist for some reason at the point of your birth (your consciousness, your self did), before which you didn't exist, then would it not be logical to assume that after you cease to exist (after death), out of that non-existance you will emerge again in another body? I am not talking at all about reincarnation, consciousness probably dies after death, but if the only real thing we can know for sure about consciousness is that it (seemingly) randomly appears out of non-existance, why wouldn't the same happen after you die?

This seems a lot more likely to me than "nothingness forever". You started to exist once, without any reason, why not again? Obviously you would not have memories or anything, cause that dies with the previous brain, but the baby would be you.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I definitely find consciousness odd- certainly. I guess I'm just not as convinced that it's something 'other' as it were. Something spiritual that floats in to us at some point in childhood. And then, floats out at the end- to end up inhabiting a new being.

Did this thing you recognize as being 'you' exist from your birth? For me- it didn't. I have very few memories below the age of 3. So- 3 entire years without really being all that conscious. To me- that suggests that- what I recognise as my consciousness/ personality- developed alongside my brain- it deveoped in my brain. I don't see why/ how it would survive after my brain dies. Personally- I think it's perfectly plausible that consciousness/ self awareness is simply an aspect of how the brain functions as it develops. Otherwise- why isn't a baby as seemingly conscious and self aware as an adult?

There again- if I'm wrong. If there is some single consciousness that inhabits us all. If we all have a lifeforce/ spirit/ soul that transcends death- what are the chances that it has anything to do with the person you are at the moment? Are you worried that you're going to wake up in the next life with the vivid memory of your life at the moment? But then- wouldn't you already be able to remember past lives? Plus- if humanity really does consist of recycled souls- why isn't it learning faster?!! Maybe it's me but- things don't seem to be getting better in the world! If I've already lived so many lives- why do I make such dumb mistakes? Surely, I ought to be wiser than this by now...
 
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Daxter_87

Daxter_87

If my name is crossed out, hopefully I'm dead.
May 28, 2023
400
I agree that reincarnation is a thing (not in a spiritual or religious sense, of course). Actually it's happening right now all over the world, every time a baby is born, because we are all essentially the same, really. Same basic needs, same animals. It's just that we have quite a few superficial differences, but that doesn't mean anything.

And yeah, we should all quit reproducing to stop this madness.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
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That's a good question. I personally think that most of the problems are caused by the society and the way we are forced to live is the reason for people to have the feeling they never wanted to exist and for mental illness and all related stuff.

Humans are an evolutionary product like all other creatures on earth but for an unknown reason we started to settle in cities and especially in the last 100 years we pushed "technology" extremly forward this evolution induced by humans themselves was so fast human being could not adapt to it in the terms of natural evolution. We're simply not made for sitting in chairs and rooms watching on screens almost 24/7/365 from a natural point of view.

So yes If one does not get the feeling of beloning to the society, not being needed within the society, not being able to reach anything within the society and there are many many more reasons that can lead to a feeling that one never wished to exist.

I don't know why humans became more conscious than animals and whether this is the only "problem" one big problem is the soceity we have to live in some cannot or may not want to live this life.
 
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HermitLonerGuy

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Sep 28, 2022
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nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybodies gonna die.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
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HermitLonerGuy

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Sep 28, 2022
708
yes indeed, not only we will die at some point, stars and even the universe will die at some point.
in 200 million years the oceans will be too hot to have any life, plants will be unable to photosynthesize, all life on earth will be gone, then eventually in couple billion years the sun will turn into a red giant and engulf the entire earth .
every lift on earth will be gone and forgotton. probably billions upon billions of lives will be forgotten.
 
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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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we will out of resources in 190 years if we don't get out into space and start bring them back to earth, the end of civilization is right around the corner most likely humans will go on but to what end maybe we will just nuke it all in the end
 
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day

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Jun 24, 2023
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I never asked to be brought into such a cruel and futile existence. The world is filled with so much suffering it's disgusting. I truly feel the only way to end my pain is through CTB. I'm sorry for you as well OP. No one deserves to suffer. I wish you well.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I certainly see existence as being something so dreadful and hellish, I wish I never existed more than anything as if one cannot exist they cannot suffer in this world filled with endless harm. And there is just no point to existing anyway, it's just waiting around to cease existing, only nothingness is acceptable to me as I think it's such a terrible punishment being given the ability to exist here.
 
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Prime0

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May 16, 2023
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Indeed this shitty world is filled with unecessary harms for no good reason, it's a stupid worthless game and I wish this retarded society could legalize euthanasia or at least not prevent access to N.
 
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R.E.N.

Rerolling to be an Ayy
Jun 26, 2023
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I have been thinking about continual existence through just the sheer of probability of spawning again. I think a soul is a bit out of there, but, if there is no soul, then what would make us keep on experiencing even in another vessel? The only conclusion I can come up with is that consciousness and experience is not unique. Someone's brain, genetics, environment, and temperament may be, but just being aware of your existence or sensation is universal. I am not saying everyone is the same person, however, it would make perfect sense for conscious to be continuous especially with analogies to how matter and energy cannot be destroyed. As nonexistence cannot be sensed, existence would always feel constant, and what makes the next experience would be everything able to be conscious and sentient. When would it end? When there is nothing. There is thought that there is a hard limit with the end of the universe, but doesn't that feel like a fractal of life and consciousness? The possibility of a cyclical universe or even other conformations of it exists. Does nothing even exist? Even in the vastness of the observable universe, quantum mechanics states a perfect vacuum does not exist with particles spawning in and out of existence in the void of space.
 
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leavingsoon99

I'm at peace... Finally.
Mar 16, 2023
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To suffer and be cursed into an existence we never wanted.
Sorry to say but we never were given a choice or chance. We were FORCED into this wretched excuse called"Life".
We are indeed forced into this living hell.
I also think being alive is empty, exhausting, lonely, miserable to the point I don't see any reason to continue on existing and pursuing anything. Deep inside, I'm a dried up corpse waiting to be put into a relieving eternal sleep so I don't have to wake up pretending like some things are worth fighting for. I don't want to be in this reality any longer.
Procreation is indeed an immoral act. Parents roll the dice and we pay the price. It's a very sad truth, and the best we can do is not to perpetuate the vicious cycle. Please do not reproduce under any circumstances.
This doesn't seem to be a common view but if we know it for a fact that you started to exist for some reason at the point of your birth (your consciousness, your self did), before which you didn't exist, then would it not be logical to assume that after you cease to exist (after death), out of that non-existance you will emerge again in another body? I am not talking at all about reincarnation, consciousness probably dies after death, but if the only real thing we can know for sure about consciousness is that it (seemingly) randomly appears out of non-existance, why wouldn't the same happen after you die?

This seems a lot more likely to me than "nothingness forever". You started to exist once, without any reason, why not again? Obviously you would not have memories or anything, cause that dies with the previous brain, but the baby would be you.
I totally cosign everything you stated. Having to run the gamut of uncertainties and asininities that make up "life" because of two hairless, horny apes is not fair at all. And then, to be brow-beaten into seeing life as an ultimate net-positive is even more insidious. Also, like you, I just don't see the meaning of anything in this life anymore. I've tried so many times to give this stupid assed experience a meaning. There is none. I'm done trying to generate enthusiasm for life out of thin air. I'm done suffering for an imagined goal. There is no reason, at all, to put up with the unnecessary suffering and degradation of life and its humans. I think that whatever created this actually gets fed, in some sort of way, from the suffering of the energies it robs and puts into its system... called "life". I think that self-termination is truly that... taking one's own life. To pull the plug and leave the simulation seems to be a bit of ultimate self control that the universe cannot take back once one actually does it. It's a surreal theory, but I believe something along the lines of that. I don't believe in eternal nothingness either. However, I don't think it's a good thing to let life kill you. Maybe that's why suicide is so damned.
 
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