Help Which method is better?

[cloveriskindaupset]

I'm stuck on whether to do hanging or OD or firearm. Someone gave me a link on how to hang urself (yes I'm that dumb and needed that) and so hanging is a potential option. But I also found out that my mom had a stash of Visterol… visteral?? Idk how you spell it lol. It's a prescription med I take for anxiety. But she has it in a place I can get to. And lastly, I found out my mom also has a gun. Idk what kind. I just overheard her talking about it, and saw a gun safe under her bed. The problem obviously with this method is trying to get into the safe. Idk how :/ but I'm basically just asking what you guys would recommend since I'm kinda lost on what to do right now. And my depression is only getting worse lol Any advice or recommendations would be appreciated :)

 

[Dosentmatter903]

Personally I'd say fuck hanging...if you're doing the gun make sure you look up what places to aim the gun & what caliber weapon is likely to do wich kind of damage( don't think I'd want to survive a gunshot to the head) but out of the 3 I would prefer to od...either heroin or fentanyl ( I don't do either) but I imagine shooting up enough of either would be painless...could be wrong about that last detail idk

 

[anonymousanguish]

I think the drug you might be talking about is vistaril (generic: hydroxyzine), which is a first generation antihistamine. It's the same type of drug as Benadryl. Other than for allergic reactions, it is used to treat anxiety sometimes or as a sleep aid, but to OD on an antihistamine would be pretty difficult because you'd have to take so much of it. It would also be really painful because antihistamines like that are metabolized primarily in the liver. Taking too much of these would cause severe liver damage and an extraordinary amount of pain. Even if you could endure that pain, someone could easily find you given how long it would take to actually die, and you would likely be kept alive but with permanent liver damage.

Out of the three option you listed I'd personally go with the gun, assuming it was a large enough caliber. Gunshot wound to the right part of the skull is very reliable and supposedly painless. Of course, you don't have access to the gun anyway, so it seems that hanging would really be your only viable option of the three, which is obviously reliable if done right (they've been hanging people for millennia).

I'd like to note that I personally wouldn't want to use stuff I got from family or friends because I wouldn't want them to feel guilty about it. Like, "if only I had kept the gun more secure" or "if only I didn't leave my prescription lying around".

Not that I know anything about you or your situation, but you said you're lost on what to do right now. Maybe seeking help if you haven't already or more advanced help. There's a lot of treatment options out there for depression, and many that have really good results. I'm not just talking about regular antidepressants like SSRIs and stuff. I'm referring to things like ketamine, TMS, Auvelity, ECT, psilocybin, etc.. It's possible that it's too difficult for you to access these things, or maybe you've already tried them. There are plenty of non-psychiatric things to try as well.

I don't know. I'm not trying to preach or anything. I just wanted to include that info alongside the analysis of the suicide methods. Killing yourself, while generally valid in my opinion, is definitely not the only way to not feel lost.

 

[lessthanzero]

im sorry you are going through this.
The message above me is really good advice.
Would it be possible for you to send me the link of the video?

 

[00nobody00]

I guess all I can say is that it is important to do the research. Hanging can be an effective, but not very pleasant way to go from what I have read and videos I have seen of others hanging themselves. CTB by ODing should be avoided unless you are using something extreme like morphine, heroin, or fent. Firearm avenue all depends on caliber and anatomy.

 

[cloveriskindaupset]

I think the drug you might be talking about is vistaril (generic: hydroxyzine), which is a first generation antihistamine. It's the same type of drug as Benadryl. Other than for allergic reactions, it is used to treat anxiety sometimes or as a sleep aid, but to OD on an antihistamine would be pretty difficult because you'd have to take so much of it. It would also be really painful because antihistamines like that are metabolized primarily in the liver. Taking too much of these would cause severe liver damage and an extraordinary amount of pain. Even if you could endure that pain, someone could easily find you given how long it would take to actually die, and you would likely be kept alive but with permanent liver damage.

Out of the three option you listed I'd personally go with the gun, assuming it was a large enough caliber. Gunshot wound to the right part of the skull is very reliable and supposedly painless. Of course, you don't have access to the gun anyway, so it seems that hanging would really be your only viable option of the three, which is obviously reliable if done right (they've been hanging people for millennia).

I'd like to note that I personally wouldn't want to use stuff I got from family or friends because I wouldn't want them to feel guilty about it. Like, "if only I had kept the gun more secure" or "if only I didn't leave my prescription lying around".

Not that I know anything about you or your situation, but you said you're lost on what to do right now. Maybe seeking help if you haven't already or more advanced help. There's a lot of treatment options out there for depression, and many that have really good results. I'm not just talking about regular antidepressants like SSRIs and stuff. I'm referring to things like ketamine, TMS, Auvelity, ECT, psilocybin, etc.. It's possible that it's too difficult for you to access these things, or maybe you've already tried them. There are plenty of non-psychiatric things to try as well.

I don't know. I'm not trying to preach or anything. I just wanted to include that info alongside the analysis of the suicide methods. Killing yourself, while generally valid in my opinion, is definitely not the only way to not feel lost.

Thanks for the recommending some recovery ideas as well at the end, that's very sweet :) I've tried many typical depression medications but nothing has really worked. And I'm just getting worse :/ I've kinda just been smoking weed and taking edibles recently since it seems to be the only drug that somewhat works lol. But the thing that sucks is that once the weed wears off, I'm back to being depressed again. So I'm in a constant state of being somewhat high. So it's not the best solution either. That's why I've been searching for suicide methods. And it's just very hard because I care a lot about my family and the last thing I want to do is make them depressed like I am too. Im not even sure my mom would survive the aftermath of my suicide. Which is why I'm going back and forth. I want the pain to end- but I also don't want to continue the cycle of depression either. I don't really want to die tho, I'm just tired of feeling awful. I just feel like o have no other choice but dying, but I also can't cus of my family. It's complicated :,(

im sorry you are going through this.
The message above me is really good advice.
Would it be possible for you to send me the link of the video?

I think this is the link and thank you for being kind :,)

Painless partial hanging - my method

No guarantee for correctness. You may end up with serious injuries if you fail. Proceed at your own risk. Sorry for my bad English. This thread is the result of 5 months of research, practicing partial hanging and figuring out how to reduce the pain. Just because it works for me, doesn't mean...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[cloveriskindaupset]

I guess all I can say is that it is important to do the research. Hanging can be an effective, but not very pleasant way to go from what I have read and videos I have seen of others hanging themselves. CTB by ODing should be avoided unless you are using something extreme like morphine, heroin, or fent. Firearm avenue all depends on caliber and anatomy.

Yeah I'd prefer the gun method much more when it comes to lethality and lack of pain. I just don't know how to get into the safe :/ and I don't want to make my parents guilty if i do take my life that way. Honestly I'm thinking hanging is my best option.

 

[picklemick]

Hanging is impossible in my very recent experience. Gun is definitely best option, just do your research. That's an awful method to survive.

 

[anonymousanguish]

I've tried many typical depression medications but nothing has really worked.

I get it. That's why I think it could be really beneficial to look into some of the things I mentioned.

Things I've tried:

• Effexor
• Cymbalta
• Fetzima
• Abilify
• Rexulti
• Zyprexa
• Nortriptyline
• Emsam
• Adderall
• Provigil
• Wellbutrin
• Lithium
• Remeron
• Various supplements/vitamins
• 3 different psychologists
• An intensive outpatient program
• Spravato (ketamine nose spray)
• Ketamine infusions
• TMS
• Accelerated TMS
• Auvelity
• ECT

(I'm currently in the process of trying psychedelic therapy).

All of that and various combinations of them have all proven useless for me, but they help so many other people. I've asserted for a long time that if every mentally ill person received the type of care that I have been so lucky to receive that mental illness rates would plummet. Clinical studies with TMS, ketamine, Auvelity and ECT for depression have shown efficacy rates ranging from 70-90%, which is ridiculously good. If you can access this stuff, it is so much more likely to help than regular pills. Even an MAOI like Emsam has better results than SSRIs and SNRIs, it's just no longer first line treatment because of the side effects.

Im not even sure my mom would survive the aftermath of my suicide.

I'm in the exact same position with my mom. I know how difficult this decision is, and I obviously haven't had the resolve to kill myself yet primarily because of my family. I feel the cause of my so-called "depression" is a little different from most, which I think has been the main reason all these incredible treatments have done nothing for me. You seem to just want the pain to stop and have been disappointed by the treatments you've tried so far. I'm just trying to point out that there is so much more out there to try if you do have a desire to live but just without the depression.

I encourage you to look into things for yourself, but feel free to ask me any questions you may have regarding psychiatric care or suicide methods. I'm open to furthering whichever conversation you think would be more beneficial.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I'm sorry you have to go through all this. Unfortunately there is no easy way to exit this world. For me personally neither hanging, nor gun would be an option as these methods look to be so cruel to me. Have you thought about the CO method (charcoal) or per haps inert gas/ N2 with exit bag? They are much more peaceful and painless than many other methods and easily accessibale without restrictions.

You can look into all recommended methods in their respective megathreads, you find it in the Sucide Resource Compilation in the sticky threads above.

I wish you all the best!

 

[cloveriskindaupset]

I get it. That's why I think it could be really beneficial to look into some of the things I mentioned.

Things I've tried:

• Effexor
• Cymbalta
• Fetzima
• Abilify
• Rexulti
• Zyprexa
• Nortriptyline
• Emsam
• Adderall
• Provigil
• Wellbutrin
• Lithium
• Remeron
• Various supplements/vitamins
• 3 different psychologists
• An intensive outpatient program
• Spravato (ketamine nose spray)
• Ketamine infusions
• TMS
• Accelerated TMS
• Auvelity
• ECT

(I'm currently in the process of trying psychedelic therapy).

All of that and various combinations of them have all proven useless for me, but they help so many other people. I've asserted for a long time that if every mentally ill person received the type of care that I have been so lucky to receive that mental illness rates would plummet. Clinical studies with TMS, ketamine, Auvelity and ECT for depression have shown efficacy rates ranging from 70-90%, which is ridiculously good. If you can access this stuff, it is so much more likely to help than regular pills. Even an MAOI like Emsam has better results than SSRIs and SNRIs, it's just no longer first line treatment because of the side effects.


I'm in the exact same position with my mom. I know how difficult this decision is, and I obviously haven't had the resolve to kill myself yet primarily because of my family. I feel the cause of my so-called "depression" is a little different from most, which I think has been the main reason all these incredible treatments have done nothing for me. You seem to just want the pain to stop and have been disappointed by the treatments you've tried so far. I'm just trying to point out that there is so much more out there to try if you do have a desire to live but just without the depression.

I encourage you to look into things for yourself, but feel free to ask me any questions you may have regarding psychiatric care or suicide methods. I'm open to furthering whichever conversation you think would be more beneficial.

Thank you for the advice, that's really nice :) I've tried most basic meds, either they make me feel not much different, worse, or just make me gain weight which also makes me feel worse lol. My mom is hoping to have me try ketamine, since I turned 18 finally and can more easily access that treatment. And since I'm 18 now there's way more access to different treatments than before. Which is good at least. Im in a place we're im looking for both suicide methods and treatment options, I want to live, yet without depression which will be a pretty hard battle but I'm willing to try.

I'm sorry you have to go through all this. Unfortunately there is no easy way to exit this world. For me personally neither hanging, nor gun would be an option as these methods look to be so cruel to me. Have you thought about the CO method (charcoal) or per haps inert gas/ N2 with exit bag? They are much more peaceful and painless than many other methods and easily accessibale without restrictions.

You can look into all recommended methods in their respective megathreads, you find it in the Sucide Resource Compilation in the sticky threads above.

I wish you all the best!

Oh I never heard of that method before,.. I'll look more into it! I don't like any option tbh, I'm just trying to find the least messy and cruel one (not just for me but also whoever needs to witness the aftermath of it all).