Venting When people say “it gets better”… (it’s only because they got ‘lucky’)

[TAW122]

This is definitely not a new phrase and rather common phrase spewed by many pro-lifers alike. However, I've noticed a very important detail to why they say that. People who once claimed that they are miserable and wanted to CTB, but then the awful shitty phrase of "it gets better" (or any variation or similar phrase), often have circumstances (usually external) or special things that caused it to get better. That's generally why they believe and spew such statements. However, there is yet another catch to that as well. Sometimes it may get better (temporarily), only for even worse suffering and other ills to come at some point (sometimes sooner, sometimes later) in the future, but more on that later. Back on the topic though.

A redditor, by the name of Godz_Lavo posted:

It never gets better unless you get lucky.

The last part of that sentence in the quote is the key part. Basically, almost everyone who has gotten better (including those who then later became suicidal again), almost always had that minute, but very important factor that allows them to flourish, overcome whatever issue, problem, ailment that they are facing. Most of the time, in reality, it doesn't get better. It may sometimes improve, stay the same, or not uncommonly though, gets worse.

TAW122 while in college (over 15 years ago)
Also, here is another story when I was in college (as a freshman, more than 15 years ago), I had a roommate who I will refer to as 'J' and he was an intelligent person and always had success, lead a pretty busy productive life and at times, I wanted to emulate him and looked at him as a role model for a while, almost idolatrizing him (he was maybe a year or two older than me at the time), and whenever he had success, again this was in college, so I'm talking in the context of academia and such, he would often just say "It's just dumb luck." and to me, that was almost unfulfilling and troubling for me because I knew there HAD to have been things I could do to see change, see the results I wanted to see, and more (not just limited to academia, but other things I cared about at the time). Anyway, at the time being a bored and almost aimless college student who didn't know about the future other than get good grades (couldn't get perfect grades as I wanted sadly) and get a job upon graduation (which also didn't pan out well but that's a different story altogether), I made some fictional short stories (pretty dark and often involved some form of CTB – never shared with anyone but just kept to myself for myself only) and one of the stories was a character who worked his ass off while his childhood friend also did similarly but then only said "it was dumb luck", and ultimately the main character of my fictional story ended up CTB'ing. Keep in mind I first found the SaSu subreddit in late 2015 and hardly participated and only lurked, and when I wanted to get more involved, Reddit nuked the subreddits and therefore out present day SaSu platform was founded in 2018 (which many of the old guard and first few members of the community knows).

So anyways, this thread is mostly to vent as well as share a story that things don't get better [unless one gets lucky, which is usually external and not always within one's own control]. Back to the earlier point in the thread about those who got better at some point, but later got worse. In general, my philosophy and view on sentience is that things can get better temporarily, but are often fleeting and continued sentience itself is a gamble (could be better and never get worse, but no guarantee of either, more often than not, something else harmful be it health, circumstances, other things will come at some point), and therefore, just because it got better for some people (because they were lucky), it doesn't always stay that way. So in the end, no it doesn't always get better and even if it did, it's fleeting.

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

And if it truly does get better, then why are suicide rates highest among people in their 50s? (I know there are some other factors that go into this, like divorce, but it just goes to show that while yes, sometimes it does get better, it also gets worse).

 

[Dejected 55]

All the "it will get better" people are hypocrites anyway. They say you can't predict your negative future based on the past because nobody knows what will happen... okay, so then why try and sell me on it gets better? You don't know it will get better any more than I know it will get worse. The KEY difference, though, is that I have history on my side with a pattern of it getting worse that tends to be more predictive (statistics and probabilities) than any made-up "it gets better" philosophy someone tries to sell you.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

It can always get worse.

Very Horrible things can happen to any human any day

There is no guarantee of some nightmare not trapping some human

The only guarantee of never suffering so badly it's a trillion times worse than one can imagine is Non-existence forever

That's why only eternal Non-existence is the only perfection

I would like to ask a prolifer why do I have to live another day working so hard being a slave just to exist under threat of extreme torture in this evil world?

To be a slave from 0 to age 90, being Tortured by old age from 60 to 90 ? For what reason? There is none nothing matters , only me getting to the safety of permanent Non-existence soon matters