Venting whats with all the hate on psychopaths?

[sadbadpsychogirl]

Cold blooded, hot headed. A fearsome combination.

no i am the cold calculating type..

 

[rs929]

There's zero chance that you have a clinical diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder.

"I'm a psychopath/sociopath" is one of the most common, baseless claims of teenagers who struggle with their emotions. Probably because it's seen as less "pathetic" than the actual issue.

Psychopaths, by definition, are not perturbed by what people think of them.

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[sadbadpsychogirl]

There's zero chance that you have a clinical diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder.

"I'm a psychopath/sociopath" is one of the most common, baseless claims of teenagers who struggle with their emotions. Probably because it's seen as less "pathetic" than the actual issue.

Psychopaths, by definition, are not perturbed by what people think of them.

no i don't really "care" what anyone thinks i was just curious. i don't really struggle with my emotions as they aren't very strong. and sadly i'm 33 i have had difficulty with others since birth and no i wasn't always great to people growing up. i can be charming and engaging but its all an act. i just don't get along with people.

 

[Lucien]

There's zero chance that you have a clinical diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder.

"I'm a psychopath/sociopath" is one of the most common, baseless claims of teenagers who struggle with their emotions. Probably because it's seen as less "pathetic" than the actual issue.

Psychopaths, by definition, are not perturbed by what people think of them.

What are the chances of even getting diagnosed with this unless there's a history of violence present? I'm guessing zero.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

What are the chances of even getting diagnosed with this unless there's a history of violence present? I'm guessing zero.

there wouldn't really be any benefit to it. i have a diagnosis of bipolar1 and the meds that i take are ones that would theorhetically be prescribed to a psychopath to lessen aggression and such.

 

[TriggerHappy]

literally everyone who has ever known me. as well as other symptoms

from what i understand, psychopaths are born and sociopaths are made.

from what i understand, psychopaths are born and sociopaths are made.

wow. so psychos can't be hurt by others and neurotypicals are always innocent... so i'm the devil? i can't be suicidal because i don't fit in and yes others have been cruel to me. you are quite judgy. go play your judgeridoo

Well Now my sad @sadbadpsychogirl: i've told you never to let those bullies hurt you with their horrible labels and names.. don't fight with them; don't cry.
just take out your pencil and little notebook and write things down
- if they ask
tell them you're sad and scared and writing
how clever they are to have put you down
but really what you do is:
write their names so we can find them and hurt them and harm them and kill them and mame them
'cos you're my little psycho-sociopath i don't care what they call you because i love you
i don't care if it was in you when you were born or if it's just how you are made
if you take revenge and kill them straight away; I promise
the bad memories will fade...

 

[Lucien]

there wouldn't really be any benefit to it. i have a diagnosis of bipolar1 and the meds that i take are ones that would theorhetically be prescribed to a psychopath to lessen aggression and such.

Theoretically, hmm I see. Your friends or former friends aren't an authority on psychopaths. Finding better friends could be the next logical step.

 

[watchingthewheels]

literally everyone who has ever known me. as well as other symptoms

from what i understand, psychopaths are born and sociopaths are made.

from what i understand, psychopaths are born and sociopaths are made.

wow. so psychos can't be hurt by others and neurotypicals are always innocent... so i'm the devil? i can't be suicidal because i don't fit in and yes others have been cruel to me. you are quite judgy. go play your judgeridoo

I'll take "something a psychopath would say" for $500, Alex...

(If you don't want to be judged as a psychopath, well, then...don't be a pyschopath.)

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

no i am the cold calculating type..

I've heard of two types. Secondary and primary psychopathy. Primary is more genetic and this is basically being adapted to the modern world, don't really have emotions, cold and calculating, the stereotype is successful wall-street ppl scamming folks. Secondary is more unstable and emotional but also lacking empathy, only focusing on your own material gains, more impulsive, etc (guess this would be the people stabbing you in an alley).

 

[deflationary]

It's hilarious how people warn against self-diagnosis, but are quite confident in diagnosing (or rejecting a diagnosis for) another person based on a couple of lines they read. People are clowns.

 

[Amumu]

It's hilarious how people warn against self-diagnosis, but are quite confident in diagnosing (or rejecting a diagnosis for) another person based on a couple of lines they read. People are clowns.

If you're referring to my post, I wasn't rejecting anything, I was just questioning the accuracy of her probable self-diagnosis.

So you're the clown here my friend. Just don't flame other people to flatter your huge ego and everything will be fine.

 

[Lucien]

It's hilarious how people warn against self-diagnosis, but are quite confident in diagnosing (or rejecting a diagnosis for) another person based on a couple of lines they read. People are clowns.

OP may not be delusional but I don't think reinforcing her negative beliefs can help. Doesn't matter if the message is encouraging and kind if it's based on a premise that won't hold up to simple scrutiny.

 

[Makko]

@sadbadpsychogirl Never call yourself a psychopath out loud. At best people will laugh and at worst they will withdraw and turn hostile, as that is the only rational attitude towards a psychopath. People are eager enough already to put negative labels on you to make your life more difficult, don't help them with it. If anything, deny it to the best of your ability.

@Makko Imagine a job where you get fired if you don't score the correct winnie the pooh character made me laugh.

Only Rabbits in my dept. Piglets get out.

 

[deflationary]

If you're referring to my post, I wasn't rejecting anything, I was just questioning the accuracy of her probable self-diagnosis.

So you're the clown here my friend. Just don't flame other people to flatter your huge ego and everything will be fine.

Wasn't even you, bud. Your post was basically my own reaction.

It was yeahwellso or whatever who said that there's zero chance she's actually diagnosed with anything based on pretty much nothing. That level of confidence clearly isn't warranted. I should have simply quoted their message instead of keeping it vague. Sorry.

OP may not be delusional but I don't think reinforcing her negative beliefs can help. Doesn't matter if the message is encouraging and kind if it's based on a premise that won't hold up to simple scrutiny.

I don't really get what you're saying here? What's the premise that doesn't hold up to simple scrutiny?

 

[Lucien]

Wasn't even you, bud. Your post was basically my own reaction.

It was yeahwellso or whatever who said that there's zero chance she's actually diagnosed with anything based on pretty much nothing. That level of confidence clearly isn't warranted. I should have simply quoted their message instead of keeping it vague. Sorry.



I don't really get what you're saying here? What's the premise that doesn't hold up to simple scrutiny?

Nevermind, actually. Yes, everyone here is speculating and guessing, nothing more.

 

[Meditation guide]

A psychopath is usually well educated and can hold a decent job for a long period of time, have a family, and fit in to society. They are not impulsive. They plan their crimes carefully to avoid being caught.

In contrast, a sociopath is impulsive, can be violent, and often ends up in jail due to lack of planning and impulsive spur of the moment crimes and violence.

They are both antisocial personality disorders.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

I'll take "something a psychopath would say" for $500, Alex...

(If you don't want to be judged as a psychopath, well, then...don't be a pyschopath.)

ok but i will judge you for being ignorant

It's hilarious how people warn against self-diagnosis, but are quite confident in diagnosing (or rejecting a diagnosis for) another person based on a couple of lines they read. People are clowns.

yes clowns! i can hear the clown music in my head (not insane clown posse)
incidentally i think winnie the pooh is more binge eating disorder. just a thought

 

[watchingthewheels]

ok but i will judge you for being ignorant

Ignorant? Hmmm...Well, I can only work with the information given, which is that you claim to be a psychopath, and that you resent the hate directed at psychopaths. But in the interest of clarification: Are you truly a psychopath? Or do you feel remorse for harmful actions you may have committed, and do you attempt to atone and make amends?

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

Ignorant? Hmmm...Well, I can only work with the information given, which is that you claim to be a psychopath, and that you resent the hate directed at psychopaths. But in the interest of clarification: Are you truly a psychopath? Or do you feel remorse for harmful actions you may have committed, and do you attempt to atone and make amends?

well for a long time i didn't even notice when i hurt people or why i would say inappropriate things that made people uncomfortable (up until my mid 20's) i would lose friends and not know why... then i gradually became more self aware and in retrospect i understand that the stuff i did and said was not normal and i shouldn't blame anyone for their appropriate reactions. there is a big stereotype that we cannot learn from our mistakes. if you have enough self awareness you can. i feel remorse for hurting people when i didn't intend to. however when i hurt somebody in retaliation for them hurting me i feel no remorse just sometimes regret if i took it too far. (i am talking about verbal attacks)

 

[x_LittleAmy_x]

ok i understand that the definition of a psychopath is a "bad" person but nobody ever considers that we actually do have feelings and sometimes even concern for others. maybe i'm atypical. i've never hurt animals or set fires or anything but i have made my share of mistakes and that is partly why i want to die. i have hurt people in the past and all i want now is for the remainder of my life to be peaceful. i try to never tell anyone what i am because their immediate reaction is that i must be a serial killer in the making. i have no friends and i don't really care anymore. yeah i'm wired differently but the last thing i want is to cause harm to anyone. just getting that out there..

Isn't this kind of like asking why people on the spectrum don't like socialising all that much?
It's part of who they are.

If somebody is a true psychopath, as in having received a diagnosis, then they would have received said diagnosis due to having some pretty unappealing traits.

 

[watchingthewheels]

well for a long time i didn't even notice when i hurt people or why i would say inappropriate things that made people uncomfortable (up until my mid 20's) i would lose friends and not know why... then i gradually became more self aware and in retrospect i understand that the stuff i did and said was not normal and i shouldn't blame anyone for their appropriate reactions. there is a big stereotype that we cannot learn from our mistakes. if you have enough self awareness you can. i feel remorse for hurting people when i didn't intend to. however when i hurt somebody in retaliation for them hurting me i feel no remorse just sometimes regret if i took it too far. (i am talking about verbal attacks)

Well, then, you probably shouldn't self identify as a psychopath, sociopath, whatever. I mean that as a good thing.

(Incidentally, there are times when autistic people inadvertently offend people without intending to, either out of "mind blindess", misreading social cues, etc..sometimes they're are taken for psychopaths, but they feel remorse when they hurt people when they didn't intend to. Not saying you are, just saying, labels are a dangerous thing, and there's overlap, etc...)

 

[quakociaptockh2]

People look at "signals". Psychopaths send wrong "signals".

Imagine a person in a car driving through the city, but every time they turn left, they signal that they're turning right. People around will be confused and probably annoyed.

This is the same problem the autistic have. With time and observation you can learn to send the right "signals", but it will never be perfect and it will never be true, unfortunately.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

i've been diagnosed with aspergers at a very young age and everyone who has met me says get a second opinion you're probably a psychopath. its kind of unspoken with my psychiatrist. i am on a lot of meds that would calm a psychopath. i have no desire to hurt anyone but i am just not good with people. most of them piss me off. i just don't care enough to act out.

 

[watchingthewheels]

i've been diagnosed with aspergers at a very young age and everyone who has met me says get a second opinion you're probably a psychopath. its kind of unspoken with my psychiatrist. i am on a lot of meds that would calm a psychopath. i have no desire to hurt anyone but i am just not good with people. most of them piss me off. i just don't care enough to act out.

Well, there ya go... :)

 

[demuic]

i've been diagnosed with aspergers at a very young age and everyone who has met me says get a second opinion you're probably a psychopath. its kind of unspoken with my psychiatrist. i am on a lot of meds that would calm a psychopath. i have no desire to hurt anyone but i am just not good with people. most of them piss me off. i just don't care enough to act out.

Why label yourself a psychopath if you're likely just autistic?

If everyone say the sky is green and the grass is blue, does that make it true?

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

Why label yourself a psychopath if you're likely just autistic?

If everyone say the sky is green and the grass is blue, does that make it true?

i just wondered because everyone i've ever met has said i'm a psychopath. i don't really have trouble reading others i just get annoyed by them, i do have most symptoms of psychopathy like constantly breaking the law, failing to conform to social norms, being fascinated with things that normal people call "disturbing" "creepy" or "gross", general flat affect, always irritable.. e.t.c. but theres really no way to know for sure so i'm just gonna not label myself