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ExistentialEntropy

ExistentialEntropy

we all go home eventually
Jul 4, 2020
82
One way of looking at it is this. Are you entirely comprised of your body/mind? Or is there another component acting through you? What makes you you, in this world, is everything that is contained in your physical memory. The fact is, consciousness arises in your brain every day and identifies as the same physical person because that is what is mapped inside your head. But if consciousness is a field it may simultaneously inhabit everything in the universe. Once your body is gone, perhaps you rejoin the conscious field although it's not you because all your physical memories have been destroyed alongside the brain.

In other words. I could be controlled by multiple different conscious entities but I would never know. Because from the perspective of my model of the world, I only have access to the neurons in my head. If I jumped into another person's head, I would no longer be me, I would be able to access only their neurons.

Who knows. Basically.

Anything is possible. The world is far from understood.
 
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StuFin

StuFin

Arcanist
Oct 21, 2020
449
Have you ever considered that if multiple universes do exist, then even if you try to kill yourself in this one and succeed, tomorrow you'll wake up in another, the attempt having failed or you being rescued in that one?

In the universe you left, you died as far as everyone there is concerned, but from your perspective you wake up alive again until every version of you in every universe has died, you stay alive since you are still conscious until none of you remain.
 
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Amumu

Amumu

Ctb - temporary solution for a permanent problem
Aug 29, 2020
2,623
Eternal sleep. In short, the paradise of insomnia.
 
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esse_est_percipi

Enlightened
Jul 14, 2020
1,747
Have you ever considered that if multiple universes do exist, then even if you try to kill yourself in this one and succeed, tomorrow you'll wake up in another, the attempt having failed or you being rescued in that one?

In the universe you left, you died as far as everyone there is concerned, but from your perspective you wake up alive again until every version of you in every universe has died, you stay alive since you are still conscious until none of you remain.
But with the multiverse theory, all the 'yous' in other universes are different entities with their own first- person identities. Just as we don't experience all the other selves which supposedly branch off in different universes with every event, why should we experience having 'survived' a ctb attempt in other universes?
Seems like quantum hokum to scare people off from ctb'ing.
 
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StuFin

StuFin

Arcanist
Oct 21, 2020
449
But with the multiverse theory, all the 'yous' in other universes are different entities with their own first- person identities. Just as we don't experience all the other selves which supposedly branch off in different universes with every event, why should we experience having 'survived' a ctb attempt in other universes?
Seems like quantum hokum to scare people off from ctb'ing.
Maybe they merge. I don't know. I'm just thinking out loud and probably talking bollocks.

Just a bit like harmonics and a tuning fork - you ping one and another identical one at the other side of the room will start to hum.

You tune into your nearest other self.
 
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Didymus

Didymus

Clutching at invisible straws
Dec 11, 2018
348
More than 100 billion humans were ever born since the dawn of humanity. Has any dead person ever confirmed any theory/beliefs what comes after?
 
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lifeisbutadream

Warlock
Oct 4, 2018
798
I have no reason to stay any longer, I've ruined my life with the choices I've made, my mental health has caused me to make foolish mistakes, ones that I feel I cannot fix.

I know that leaving will hurt some people, I don't want to hurt anyone by leaving, but I think I'll hurt them more by staying.

The bit that's hard to reconcile is the question of what happens after death, do our souls/ minds/ conscious live on do you think, or are we divided as per religion based on the life's we have lived/ the good and bad that we have done, or, as I hope, that we simply are dead dead, nothing more?

I know no one knows, and that religious beliefs somewhat dictate peoples thinking on the possibility of an after life or re-incarnation, some people believe in the Big Bang theory, which to me dictates that there's nothing after death but for blankness. Others believe we are all part of a big experiment like in the Matrix, or that we are all just the play thing of another life form ( I actually think this is plausible ), and others think that we moved from realm to realm.

What do you all think happens, and hope happens after death?


There are enormous and superb websites about this. I don't have the links handy. Just search "life after death".
 
Pookie

Pookie

Somebody you used to know.
Oct 18, 2020
1,051
Nothing. A dreamless sleep. That time before you were born. Like going under anaesthesia.
 
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Meditation guide

Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
Jun 22, 2020
6,082
consciousness is just the chemicals and electrical signals in your brain.
There is quite a bit of debate about the seat of consciousness. Some believe it is separate and apart from the brain.
 
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0utsider

0utsider

Member
Dec 9, 2020
37
I have no reason to stay any longer, I've ruined my life with the choices I've made, my mental health has caused me to make foolish mistakes, ones that I feel I cannot fix.

I know that leaving will hurt some people, I don't want to hurt anyone by leaving, but I think I'll hurt them more by staying.

The bit that's hard to reconcile is the question of what happens after death, do our souls/ minds/ conscious live on do you think, or are we divided as per religion based on the life's we have lived/ the good and bad that we have done, or, as I hope, that we simply are dead dead, nothing more?

I know no one knows, and that religious beliefs somewhat dictate peoples thinking on the possibility of an after life or re-incarnation, some people believe in the Big Bang theory, which to me dictates that there's nothing after death but for blankness. Others believe we are all part of a big experiment like in the Matrix, or that we are all just the play thing of another life form ( I actually think this is plausible ), and others think that we moved from realm to realm.

What do you all think happens, and hope happens after death?
I've heard a lot of theories on this. Non-existence seems most likely. No darkness, no void. Just. Nothing. Its hard for us to comprehend what that would feel like, mostly because it doesn't feel like anything at all.

Another more fun theory I've heard is that when we die, the brain releases large amounts of a DMT like substance. So basically the afterlife is whatever you want it to be, for all eternity.
 
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StuFin

StuFin

Arcanist
Oct 21, 2020
449
There is quite a bit of debate about the seat of consciousness. Some believe it is separate and apart from the brain.
I suppose another way to think of it could be like a computer program.

It's just a load of 1's and 0's, but when they are put together in a certain way they function to do something specific.

If you took the code apart back to 1's and 0's, those 1's and 0's would still exist, they just wouldn't do anything or have any purpose, or know they were ever a piece of software.
 
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Debbie Northampton U

Student
Oct 22, 2020
118
I think there's something very odd about time and outside of what we see, it doesn't exist. But I don't know how far back this time that we see, goes, to reach the doors to freedom where time doesn't exist. In other words, I dunno. But, I really do hope that we don't go on to live endless lives, having to experience everything there is to experience because I really don't fancy some of those scenes such as being stabbed to death, being a serial killer, drowning, kidnapped etc etc.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,615
I hope there is nothing. That is what I believe there will be after death. I think when we lose consciousness, that is the end for us. I think we return to the same nothingness where we were at before we were born. That thought is comforting to me. Non existence is the thing that I want the most.
 
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aBLEACHyindividual

Member
Sep 5, 2020
70
Well, i have been taught to believe in Christian God. So I hope He understands why i did it and forgives me
 
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toforigivelife

Arcanist
Jul 5, 2021
493
I have no reason to stay any longer, I've ruined my life with the choices I've made, my mental health has caused me to make foolish mistakes, ones that I feel I cannot fix.

I know that leaving will hurt some people, I don't want to hurt anyone by leaving, but I think I'll hurt them more by staying.

The bit that's hard to reconcile is the question of what happens after death, do our souls/ minds/ conscious live on do you think, or are we divided as per religion based on the life's we have lived/ the good and bad that we have done, or, as I hope, that we simply are dead dead, nothing more?

I know no one knows, and that religious beliefs somewhat dictate peoples thinking on the possibility of an after life or re-incarnation, some people believe in the Big Bang theory, which to me dictates that there's nothing after death but for blankness. Others believe we are all part of a big experiment like in the Matrix, or that we are all just the play thing of another life form ( I actually think this is plausible ), and others think that we moved from realm to realm.

What do you all think happens, and hope happens after death?
As someone who wavers between genuinely hoping that there is nothing after death, that our brains just turn off and that's it and hoping that a beautiful new life and indescribable unconditional love awaits us I hope I'm not doing more harm than good by sharing the single most compelling "near death experience" story, which includes an after death communication that was verified by three different independent parties and individuals, story with you.

It takes about an hour to listen to this but it is worth it.

Fascinating story and the synchronicities are important.

I honestly don't know if near death experiences are proof of a beautiful, peaceful existence after death where we are reunited with loved ones, can even visit our favorite deceased celebrities or not.

Many of these experiences offer what I, as a still living mere mortal, feel is a logical chain of events.

Leaving your body is an incredibly freeing experience, going down the tunnel, being embraced by an indescribably beautiful light and being enveloped by its equally indescribable sense of pure, unconditional, healing love and then having to get through what is known as a life review where we go over all that is wonderful about us as well all of the wrongs we committed, not an easy to get through but necessary if you want to enjoy all the other side has to offer.

Sounds fair and perfectly reasonable.

According to those who have had near death experiences, or "experience-ers", you get to visit a place where you truly feel that you've come home, that you've come to your true home. A home everyone is accepted.

Humans, animals, pets, plant life. Everything that has a life force is accepted into what we think of as Heaven.

Even the worst of us are accepted. Even the worst of the worst. And their life review process is going to be much harder to get through than the average person's. Again, sounds fair.

Those who die by suicide are not condemned or punished. Their passing is treated like any other passing (the story link I'm giving you includes a person who died of a drug overdose and who is in Heaven and doing just fine).

Every living being is profoundly understood and profoundly loved unconditionally by the "source" or the "creator", no, there is no vengeful God who sits up in the clouds keeping track of all of your misdeeds, there is no one true religion and we realize how connected we all are and how we're all connected and in this together.

And there is no hell, just a sense of being held accountable for your Earthly, mortal actions.

Healthy, happy people with happy, healthy lives have these experiences and plead not to be sent "back there" and are often sad, disappointed and very angry when they have to come back and have a hard time readjusting to their Earth lives.

And then...there are those "experience-ers" who describe what they honestly feel is a positive, Heavenly experience and their Heaven doesn't sound all that great to me. There are times when I'm listening to what is supposed to be an uplifting near death experience and I'm thinking, "Say it ain't so!"

Here's the story if you're interested in listening to it.

While skeptics like to explain near death experiences away as being mere hallucinations - and some of them obviously are hallucinations - this story and these events are difficult to explain away.

But sometimes there are days or moments where I don't know if I feel this is a good thing or a bad thing.

But, that's just me.

Mr. Randy Schiefer's Near Death and After Death Communication Experience:

 
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WoodyOak

Member
Apr 28, 2020
46
A dream I had some time ago where after this life I was reincarnated into the person I am in this life, with all the people in my previous life in the same positions? that they were previously.
In this life (the here and now) I was/am a martial arts instructor. In the dream, in another life I was reincarnated as someone working in a video store with my Sifu being the owner of the store (currently owns the martial arts academy where I taught) and his daughter working in the video store with him (she also used to work at the martial arts academy).
I was so depressed when I woke up hoping that after we die, we don`t come back to live this life all over again in the same capacity but the background is the only thing that changed.
 

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