Method What will happen if you fail or are saved in the Amitriptyline method?

[KillingPain267]

The method that the Peaceful Pill Handbook mentions. What is the worst disability or permanent damage that can happen if you don't die or get saved while doing this method?

 

[Michi_Violeta]

I asked details on amitriptyline a while ago and someone replied telling their experience with nortriptyline, no long term damage. From what I've read, neither amitriptyline or chloroquine leave long lasting effects in case of survival, but I'll have to check my sources again and share them just to be sure.

 

[KillingPain267]

I asked details on amitriptyline a while ago and someone replied telling their experience with nortriptyline, no long term damage. From what I've read, neither amitriptyline or chloroquine leave long lasting effects in case of survival, but I'll have to check my sources again and share them just to be sure.

I would imagine heart problems would persist after a failed attempt. But the potential permanent damage of a metjod that failed is a massive factor in what I'll choose. I am mostly set on SN, but I heard some gruesome things from failed attempts despite most saying there is no damage.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

I would imagine heart problems would persist after a failed attempt. But the potential permanent damage of a metjod that failed is a massive factor in what I'll choose. I am mostly set on SN, but I heard some gruesome things from failed attempts despite most saying there is no damage.

Survival after severe amitriptyline poisoning with prolonged ventricular tachycardia and cardiac arrest - BMC Research Notes

Background Tricyclic antidepressants (TCA) are becoming one of the most frequently used substances in self poisoning. Significant morbidity and mortality associated with TCA overdose are often related to and refractory hypotension. We report the first case of survival after severe amitriptyline...

bmcresnotes.biomedcentral.com

"A 25 year old girl presented with severe amitriptyline poisoning causing pulseless VT and prolonged cardiac arrest. After 3 h of uninterrupted external cardiac massage, together with nine DC shocks and intra venous bicarbonate injections the rhythm reverted to a nodal tachycardia, initial 2D echocardiogram showed left ventricular dysfunction, which recovered to normal after 2 weeks and the patient had a complete recovery subsequently."

"She was extubated on fourth day and was transferred to the medical ward for continuation of care. She was discharged after 1 week from the incident, when she obtained complete recovery."

"Her follow up ECGs done at 1 week and 1 month after discharge, showed sinus rhythm with normal T waves. The repeat 2D echocardiogram performed after 2 weeks showed improvement in her ejection fraction to 55 % with normal sized cardiac chambers. She did not have any other neurological deficits except for the short term retrograde amnesia that persisted."

Unusual complications from amitriptyline intoxication - PMC

Althoughtricyclic antidepressants(TCAs) are frequently prescribed to patients with depression, these drugs can also be misused. A 21-year-old comatose patient was referred to our hospital presenting with ventricular tachycardia. Despite initial ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ok, this one is a bit more grim. Fucking hell, even killing yourself is so complicated

 

[KillingPain267]

Survival after severe amitriptyline poisoning with prolonged ventricular tachycardia and cardiac arrest - BMC Research Notes

Background Tricyclic antidepressants (TCA) are becoming one of the most frequently used substances in self poisoning. Significant morbidity and mortality associated with TCA overdose are often related to and refractory hypotension. We report the first case of survival after severe amitriptyline...

bmcresnotes.biomedcentral.com

"A 25 year old girl presented with severe amitriptyline poisoning causing pulseless VT and prolonged cardiac arrest. After 3 h of uninterrupted external cardiac massage, together with nine DC shocks and intra venous bicarbonate injections the rhythm reverted to a nodal tachycardia, initial 2D echocardiogram showed left ventricular dysfunction, which recovered to normal after 2 weeks and the patient had a complete recovery subsequently."

"She was extubated on fourth day and was transferred to the medical ward for continuation of care. She was discharged after 1 week from the incident, when she obtained complete recovery."

"Her follow up ECGs done at 1 week and 1 month after discharge, showed sinus rhythm with normal T waves. The repeat 2D echocardiogram performed after 2 weeks showed improvement in her ejection fraction to 55 % with normal sized cardiac chambers. She did not have any other neurological deficits except for the short term retrograde amnesia that persisted."

Lol, I was just reading that first one.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

Lol, I was just reading that first one.

Unfortunately not a lot of information on what we're trying to do, or at least not freely or easily available. That's why this place is so dear to me. Last night I found another paper on chloroquine (the method I'm considering after people here advised against amitriptyline) and it also mentioned patients making a full recovery with the exception of an intentional OD which thankfully ended in death.

 

[KillingPain267]

Unusual complications from amitriptyline intoxication - PMC

Althoughtricyclic antidepressants(TCAs) are frequently prescribed to patients with depression, these drugs can also be misused. A 21-year-old comatose patient was referred to our hospital presenting with ventricular tachycardia. Despite initial ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ok, this one is a bit more grim. Fucking hell, even killing yourself is so complicated

At least the good thing is that the keyword is "unusual". But yeah, I had no idea suicide would be this hard. Those who actually do it are so tough motherfuckers! But I guess with the Amitriptyline, SN or similar methods the importance is to not be found and brought to hospitals where these doctor so called "heroes" "save" you (ugh, I feel like if I found someone dying and clearly showed it was suicide that I should lesve them alone; to which I would probably get in legal trouble despite respecting someone's autonomy).

I plan on doing it in some large forest at 2am and throw away my phone so I have no chance of calling anyone in panic. I doubt anyone survives these methods if they just have long enough to work, even if it was initially more or less botched.

Unfortunately not a lot of information on what we're trying to do, or at least not freely or easily available. That's why this place is so dear to me. Last night I found another paper on chloroquine (the method I'm considering after people here advised against amitriptyline) and it also mentioned patients making a full recovery with the exception of an intentional OD which thankfully ended in death.

Can you sum up what and why they advised against amitriptyline? I find the search bar here not that good.

 

[Michi_Violeta]

At least the good thing is that the keyword is "unusual". But yeah, I had no idea suicide would be this hard. Those who actually do it are so tough motherfuckers! But I guess with the Amitriptyline, SN or similar methods the importance is to not be found and brought to hospitals where these doctor so called "heroes" "save" you (ugh, I feel like if I found someone dying and clearly showed it was suicide that I should lesve them alone; to which I would probably get in legal trouble despite respecting someone's autonomy).

I plan on doing it in some large forest at 2am and throw away my phone so I have no chance of calling anyone in panic. I doubt anyone survives these methods if they just have long enough to work, even if it was initially more or less botched.

Can you sum up what and why they advised against amitriptyline? I find the search bar here not that good.

Thoughts on amitriptyline overdose?

Hey everyone, it's been a while since I've posted here. Suicidal ideation went down for a bit even though things haven't really improved, I've just been distracted by a few positive things that sadly don't outweigh the bad, and now I'm again considering ctb as the way forward. I live in a...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Didn't get a really clear answer other than SN would be better.