What was it like before you were born makes no sense. At one point we weren’t born then we were now when we die it can’t be the same as before birth

[VoidDesirer22]

this is a logical fallacy. i dont agree looking at this from a logic and scientific perspective, its only human nature to hope for more but life is just a happy accident with a few decades and its back to oblivion.

All these are just hopes. wishes and fairytales.

All these lifetimes and decades upon generations theres never been proof of anything more.

if you think about how life and biology works youd come to the conclusion reincarnation and afterlife/god is a defy the laws of nature of physics impossibility.

You say "I don't agree looking at this from a logic and scientific perspective"

And then go one to say "if you think about how biology works"

Is biology not a science all of a sudden?

 

[Journeytoletgo]

With enough time unfortunately life will arise again after this planet

 

[VoidDesirer22]

With enough time unfortunately life will arise again after this planet

But it would just be the energy transferring to one form or another. We wouldn't actually be ourselves in any way at all. So I think it is right to say when we die who we are now is gone forever.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

But it would just be the energy transferring to one form or another. We wouldn't actually be ourselves in any way at all. So I think it is right to say when we die who we are now is gone forever.

For some people, that might be a good thing tbf.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

But it would just be the energy transferring to one form or another. We wouldn't actually be ourselves in any way at all. So I think it is right to say when we die who we are now is gone forever.

Yes I know who we are now is gone forever YES. However life will arise again it won't be us though

What do you think?

 

[VoidDesirer22]

Yes I know who we are now is gone forever YES. However life will arise again my guess we won't be us though

What do you think?

It is comforting to me to think I can put this identity to rest and my own timeline :)

 

[Journeytoletgo]

It is comforting to me to think I can put this identity to rest and my own timeline :)

Same. :) but you don't think "life" can happen again?

 

[VoidDesirer22]

Same. :) but you don't think "life" can happen again?

I surely hope not, but if it happened once, over infinite time it is feasible.

But what if time ceases forever at one point too? That seems impossible, but I couldn't even conceptualize it with my primitive human mind. It's like asking an ant to do calculus.

 

[GoingAwayParty]

I surely hope not, but if it happened once, over infinite time it is feasible.

But what if time ceases forever at one point too? That seems impossible, but I couldn't even conceptualize it with my primitive human mind. It's like asking an ant to do calculus.

Time is a measurement of space. It isn't a separate entity.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

I surely hope not, but if it happened once, over infinite time it is feasible.

But what if time ceases forever at one point too? That seems impossible, but I couldn't even conceptualize it with my primitive human mind. It's like asking an ant to do calculus.

You are brave

 

[VoidDesirer22]

Time is a measurement of space. It isn't a separate entity.

Right, yes I'm out of my element there. Could space stop completely is maybe what I meant. Like is absolute nothingness possible, where no life could ever start again.

 

[GoingAwayParty]

Right, yes I'm out of my element there. Could space stop completely is maybe what I meant. Like is absolute nothingness possible, where no life could ever start again.

The predominant view today is that the universe will reach a state called heat death, at which point space will be at its maximum. This will result in a situation in which the molecules of existence are spread apart so far that gravity cannot hold them together. The resulting state of the universe will be dark and empty, with no matter left, filled with the radiation of evaporated black holes.

This state will prevail for most of the existence of the universe - quintillions of years (the universe is only fourteen billion years old today, by comparison - this is a situation that will last tens of thousands of times longer than our current early universe). However, it has been theorized that quantum fluctuations in this almost completely empty cosmos might randomly produce the conditions necessary for a new Big Bang to occur: this empty space would essentially function as the space the next Big Bang expands into. The theoretical physicist Roger Penrose, for example, believes that he has detected background radiation from black holes older than the observable universe. There's no reason to assume that any past or future universes would be identical to our own, but if it is black hole radiation Penrose detected, that means there were stars in the past universe to produce the black holes, which suggests that they operated on comparable physical lines to our own.

 

[rationaldeath]

But it would just be the energy transferring to one form or another. We wouldn't actually be ourselves in any way at all. So I think it is right to say when we die who we are now is gone forever.

It doesnt seem impossible to me that a sufficiently advanced technology could recreate our consciousnesses in a computer or engineered organism at very distant point in the universe's future. If the universe is in fact deterministic and some entity eventually creates a completely accurate simulation they might be able "rewind" it to recover the previous state of matter/energy at any point in history.

 

[GoingAwayParty]

It doesnt seem impossible to me that a sufficiently advanced technology could recreate our consciousnesses in a computer or engineered organism at very distant point in the universe's future. If the universe is in fact deterministic and some entity eventually creates a completely accurate simulation they might be able "rewind" it to recover the previous state of matter/energy at any point in history.

You might be interested in this.

 

[romanholidaydionysu]

To be perfectly fair, nothing makes sense other than what one is comfortable accepting without further investigation

 

[eLdus]

The predominant view today is that the universe will reach a state called heat death, at which point space will be at its maximum. This will result in a situation in which the molecules of existence are spread apart so far that gravity cannot hold them together. The resulting state of the universe will be dark and empty, with no matter left, filled with the radiation of evaporated black holes.

This state will prevail for most of the existence of the universe - quintillions of years (the universe is only fourteen billion years old today, by comparison - this is a situation that will last tens of thousands of times longer than our current early universe).

There's an amazing video on YT that shows exactly this - Timelapse of the Future: A Journey To The End of Time
'Nothing happens and it keeps not happening forever'
Blows my mind whenever I watch it.