Discussion What resources could a genie provide you that would help overcome the desire to CTB?

[ShatteredSerenity]

Suppose a genie popped out of a bottle and told you he could give you any resources you desire, except he can't change you or other people. Is there anything he could provide you that would help overcome the desire to CTB?

Remember he can't change you, so you'd still have to live with any mental or physical disorders. And he can't change other people, so for example he can't make people like you or do things for you.

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I'll start. In my case it's a difficult question because my suffering is caused by long term mental health issues and trauma, not a lack of resources. Even if I won the lottery I'd steel feel terrible. But there are a few things that might help me endure the suffering longer, possibly until natural death.

First I would ask for guaranteed basic income. My mental health is so bad that I'm no longer able to work, but getting disability income here in the US is a huge hassle that takes at least two years minimum. It's also not enough to live on. Rather than tying income to disability, I'd rather see a guaranteed income that was available to anyone and provided enough to live a happy simple life. That would help a lot of people, and make it easier to meet people and make friends.

Next I would like some form of decent group housing for people with mental health issues. That kind of housing is extremely limited in my area, and a lot of it isn't very good. I'm thinking about something like a small apartment building with common dining and recreation areas, and with mental health practicioners and a pharmacy on site or within short walking distance. I used to live in my own house with my wife and kids so this would be a huge step down for me materially, but the unfortunate reality of bipolar disorder is now I need something like this.

Finally, to address loneliness I would like some way to meet other neurodivergent people, such as an app. The only close friendships I've ever had were with women I met through dating apps, so I'm ok with apps. Ideally I would find another romantic partner since my marriage is ending, but I realize that I also need to broaden my social circle beyond romantic relationships.

 

[MeltingBrain]

If you dont mind me asking. What mental health issues do you suffer from, to cause this much distress ?
I have a soft corner for people suffering with chronic diseases other than that I am a capitalist.

As for me I will ask for a machine which diagnoses my incorrectly/incomplete disease.
This can go either way, if it's something like cancer I would prefer roping. If it's something mild than I continue living.

 

[beseechgod]

Suppose a genie popped out of a bottle and told you he could give you any resources you desire, except he can't change you or other people. Is there anything he could provide you that would help overcome the desire to CTB?

Remember he can't change you, so you'd still have to live with any mental or physical disorders. And he can't change other people, so for example he can't make people like you or do things for you.

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I'll start. In my case it's a difficult question because my suffering is caused by long term mental health issues and trauma, not a lack of resources. Even if I won the lottery I'd steel feel terrible. But there are a few things that might help me endure the suffering longer, possibly until natural death.

First I would ask for guaranteed basic income. My mental health is so bad that I'm no longer able to work, but getting disability income here in the US is a huge hassle that takes at least two years minimum. It's also not enough to live on. Rather than tying income to disability, I'd rather see a guaranteed income that was available to anyone and provided enough to live a happy simple life. That would help a lot of people, and make it easier to meet people and make friends.

Next I would like some form of decent group housing for people with mental health issues. That kind of housing is extremely limited in my area, and a lot of it isn't very good. I'm thinking about something like a small apartment building with common dining and recreation areas, and with mental health practicioners and a pharmacy on site or within short walking distance. I used to live in my own house with my wife and kids so this would be a huge step down for me materially, but the unfortunate reality of bipolar disorder is now I need something like this.

Finally, to address loneliness I would like some way to meet other neurodivergent people, such as an app. The only close friendships I've ever had were with women I met through dating apps, so I'm ok with apps. Ideally I would find another romantic partner since my marriage is ending, but I realize that I also need to broaden my social circle beyond romantic relationships.

I would ask for a time machine so I could go back and redo parts of my life.

 

[Overwhelmed52]

Definitely a time machine!

 

[ScaredOfMachines]

I think I'd ask for a quiet house in the middle of nowhere, filled with all the videogames. books, movies, and TV shows I could ever want. Most of my problems are stuff caused by the world we live in. I feel like I could be much happier without having to look back every two seconds to make sure that there isn't another disaster headed my way, even though I would still have some mental issues.

 

[Prism]

If I had enough money, I could solve most of the problems that make me want to ctb. So that's my answer.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Nothing since my problems are with existence itself and a genie can't do anything about that unless if they were to change existence itself

 

[Darkover]

your genie can't help me then because i need my brain fixing

 

[Forever Sleep]

Money would help in the short-term.

Then, I'd ask for a 100% reliable and peaceful way to end my life- when I chose to.

Then, I'd be generous and say- use your last wish for yourself. Or, I'd use it to create something that vanishes (safely) all of the plastic waste in the world.

 

[FuneralCry]

Personally I just don't wish to exist at all, I have no interest in suffering in this existence, for me ceasing to exist is something positive as I find existing to be deeply undesirable in every single way, I only hope to never exist ever again. To me human existence is the most torturous and futile burden that just causes suffering all for the sake of it, wanting death is all I know and all that makes sense for me, not something to overcome, it's a response to me existing and under no circumstances would I be enslaved in this existence. To me human existence just feels like a terrible mistake and the thought of suffering until old age is horrifying to me, I'd never wish to prolong the suffering of existing all for the sake of it just to end up way more tormented in an existence where there's no limit as to how much agony one can feel, non-existence truly is all I personally hope for, I only wish to fall into an eternal, dreamless sleep where all is forgotten about for me.

 

[general_malaise]

money, no question.

 

[needthebus]

if there were housing or there were services and i was absolutely sure it would not require me to to interact with clinicians, that would help because then i could get help for my non-medical issues

the threat of being forced to interact with mental health professionals, combined with past emotional abuse from such professionals, combined with mental health industry ethics rules that are unacceptable to me means i don't use any services I likely qualify for out of fear of being pushed or forced into interacting with those people

my biggest fear is of being damaged by a stroke because im not getting any medical treatment right now and my risk factors for a non-fatal stroke are high

fun fact: Finland does this already (housing without requirements and social workers and forms and needing to do this and that for "wellness") and, unsurprisingly, it's solved many problems

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

If you dont mind me asking. What mental health issues do you suffer from, to cause this much distress ?
I have a soft corner for people suffering with chronic diseases other than that I am a capitalist.

I have ADHD, autism, and bipolar disorder. I also had alcoholic parents and my mom left before I was 5 which seems to have caused a myriad of developmental issues. I've felt suicidal for as long as I can remember, but I managed to live a pretty successful life and had kids which prevented me from attempting to CTB earlier. Bipolar is degenerative and got really bad this year, so now I'm finally ready to call it quits.

I would ask for a time machine so I could go back and redo parts of my life.

Oh yeah, I didn't think of that one. Going back to fix mistakes or warn myself about issues I wasn't aware of is probably the only thing that would make me happy again.

if there were housing or there were services and i was absolutely sure it would not require me to to interact with clinicians, that would help because then i could get help for my non-medical issues

the threat of being forced to interact with mental health professionals, combined with past emotional abuse from such professionals, combined with mental health industry ethics rules that are unacceptable to me means i don't use any services I likely qualify for out of fear of being pushed or forced into interacting with those people

I get this concern, it's part of the reason I wish for guaranteed income rather than disability payments. I begrudgingly am seeing a psychiatrist since I can't live without meds, but I don't want the other services that are required to prove I'm disabled. Therapists have given me such bad advice before it was harmful.

 

[needthebus]

I have ADHD, autism, and bipolar disorder. I also had alcoholic parents and my mom left before I was 5 which seems to have caused a myriad of developmental issues. I've felt suicidal for as long as I can remember, but I managed to live a pretty successful life and had kids which prevented me from attempting to CTB earlier. Bipolar is degenerative and got really bad this year, so now I'm finally ready to call it quits.


Oh yeah, I didn't think of that one. Going back to fix mistakes or warn myself about issues I wasn't aware of is probably the only thing that would make me happy again.


I get this concern, it's part of the reason I wish for guaranteed income rather than disability payments. I begrudgingly am seeing a psychiatrist since I can't live without meds, but I don't want the other services that are required to prove I'm disabled. Therapists have given me such bad advice before it was harmful.

I forgo meds because Im unwilling to speak with any psychiatrists after my experiences. I also dont believe the benefits are worth the cost and side effects when I am this poor.

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

Just cure my major depressive disorder.

 

[CogitoMori]

If he can't make people like me then what's the point?

 

[hereornot]

A good computer and mobile phone that have not been hacked.

Cybersecurity

Basic income for 2 years at the same rate I earned 10 years ago

My car back

A sum of money to help me get back on my feet and be competitive again.

Keeping my family away so they never have any contact with me again, preventing them from being scammed in the future.

Since all of this is impossible, CTB is waiting for me.

 

[TheHolySword]

To go back in time. I could fix so many things. But there's no going back, some things you can't change. This was always going to be my most final decision.