What plants do you think these were?

[Walilamdzii]

"Lily was rushed to hospital after her family tried to make her vomit, and began suffering seizures before going into cardiac arrest. Tragically, she was pronounced dead at the hospital.
Post-mortem tests revealed Lily's body was found to have four compounds found in highly toxic plants in her system.
The toxicology report recorded her cause of death as 'acute cardiorespiratory depression secondary to poisoning'."

Woman took her own life after researching highly toxic plants

The 33-year-old had studied Chinese herbal medicine at university before setting up her own acupuncture business

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[ThisIsLife]

The ones that i know of that induce cardiac arrests and seizures are Azaleas, Oleander and those that contain Strychnine, Brucine (such as Crow Fig) or Digitalis.

4 compounds found means she probably made her own blend. Toxic plants rarely carry more than 2 fatal compounds, the very very very rare exception being the Mayapple roots that carry 16 active toxic substances.

 

[アホペンギン]

The ones that i know of that induce cardiac arrests and seizures are Azaleas, Oleander and those that contain Strychnine, Brucine (such as Crow Fig) or Digitalis.

4 compounds found means she probably made her own blend. Toxic plants rarely carry more than 2 fatal compounds, the very very very rare exception being the Mayapple roots that carry 16 active toxic substances.

Wow, you seem very informed concerning botanical things.. have you studied about plants in university or something?

 

[Walilamdzii]

The ones that i know of that induce cardiac arrests and seizures are Azaleas, Oleander and those that contain Strychnine, Brucine (such as Crow Fig) or Digitalis.

4 compounds found means she probably made her own blend. Toxic plants rarely carry more than 2 fatal compounds, the very very very rare exception being the Mayapple roots that carry 16 active toxic substances.

How do you mean blend, just mixed them up a bit?

I'm guessing this method isn't used more because it's not peaceful?

 

[ThisIsLife]

Wow, you seem very informed concerning botanical things.. have you studied about plants in university or something?

Not at all, it's just part of things i'm interested in. But i studied organic chemistry a bit so there's that.
If you want to find reliable sources on the subject you just have to use different search engines because not everything useful appear on the first pages of a classic google search.

How do you mean blend, just mixed them up a bit?

I'm guessing this method isn't used more because it's not peaceful?

Yes what i mean is she definitely used more than one toxic plant to kill herself if 4 toxic compounds were found; and there's the possibility other compounds were not detected by toxicology if she really knew what she was doing and pushed it too far in order to accelerate the effects or make it impossible to be saved.

There is no lethal toxic plant known to human that would give a peaceful death. All of them provide very violent effects and horrible death, BUT some of them are used (in very specific ways) by pharma to cure or alleviate some heart conditions for example and became medicines.

Some poisons sometimes become a cure, it depends how it's used. Botulinum toxin, which is one of the most deadly things on earth is a classic example, even if it's made from bacteria and not plants.

 

[Walilamdzii]

I suppose I was thinking at least it was a successful ctb, and I wonder if I could find these plants that she used.

 

[befree]

Maybe one of those:

10 Plants That Will Kill You

Here at Epic Gardening, our focus is usually on plants that you can eat without dying. But every now and then, it's fun to look at the wider world of

www.epicgardening.com

 

[ThisIsLife]

Maybe one of those:

10 Plants That Will Kill You

Here at Epic Gardening, our focus is usually on plants that you can eat without dying. But every now and then, it's fun to look at the wider world of

www.epicgardening.com

This page contains some false information though. I'll take Ricin for example; they say "It's concentrated in the seeds, of which 1 is strong enough to kill you in just 48 hours."
That's everything but true. Not only the lethal dose depends on how the person gets intoxicated, but in the case of oral ingestion it has to be more than 2,4g in order to be fatal (to an adult mammal), and you'd have to process a shit ton of the beans to make that much of the pure product. Also the time it takes for the protein to kill depends on the route: it could take up to 5 days if taken orally, 3 to 4 if inhaled, 36 to 48h if intramuscularily injected (the method used to kill Georgi Markov, from a small hollow pellet fired into his leg from a gas gun disguised as an umbrella).
It's important to mention that there are differences in toxicity with the inhalation route assumed to be based on variations in the isotoxins expressed by the different seed types and that depending on the particle size of the product inhaled it could on one hand (for the smaller) reach the lungs and kill in 72h and on the other (the larger) be filtered by the nares and the victim would survive.

When administered into the body by intramuscular, and is able to enter the blood circulation, then it potentially has access to all systemic organs. The distribution would have a similar fate to that administered intravascularly but the time to effect would be expected to be slower following parenteral administration.

Much more ricin is required to achieve lethality by the oral route as its toxicity when delivered this way is much lower, because of the poor absorbtion from the intestine.