What % of people do suicide, and life would turn good?

[bacardirum]

Of course I do not mean people who have a incurable illness or situation. The % must be huge yes? I mean, you have all these so young people who break-up in a relationship and want to die, most of these people given time would go on to love life, and so many other situations like saying something stupid to family, doing a stupid post on Facebook, and they think it's the end of the world, when in fact it's not.

I would hazard a guess at about 90% of suicides, things could work out good for the OP given time.

 

[Rollinggirl]

But, if that period of time till life turns better is really awful and unbearable, it is understandable why they commit suicide because they cannot wait, which I completely understand

 

[Jon86]

I'd say most suicides are rational and had years of suicidal thoughts behind them. I know that men and particular older men commit the most suicide, they take the time to weigh the pros and cons, research methods etc. before deciding to go.

The younger you get, the more emotional/situational a suicide gets in general and with that you get more impulsive attempts. I'd guess these suicides make up less than 25% of all total suicides, although they make up the bulk of Hollywood depictions.

I think those, who commit suicide impulsively, or swiftly are more likely to have had a better go at life, had they continued, obviously.

 

[Rugnificent]

I'd say most suicides are rational and had years of suicidal thoughts behind them. I know that men and particular older men commit the most suicide, they take the time to weigh the pros and cons, research methods etc. before deciding to go.

The younger you get, the more emotional/situational a suicide gets in general and with that you get more impulsive attempts. I'd guess these suicides make up less than 25% of all total suicides, although they make up the bulk of Hollywood depictions.

I think those, who commit suicide impulsively, or swiftly are more likely to have had a better go at life, had they continued, obviously.

I agree with that

 

[alizee]

I assume it's impossible to know if a suicide is either irrational or rational because we don't even know what's the outcome of death or the reason for life in the first place.

The thought of people dictating how someone ended their life as irrational is ridiculously unrighteous for the victim of suicide by the cruel destiny forced upon the person. I knew a young guy that ended his life from his first girlfriend breaking up with him. I don't think ignorantly judging that person is correct and or anything I want in how my life transpired (such as thinking he was irrational with not understanding his full story).

Having the resources in society so people don't end their life is great. Forcing good intentions on others is no different than an evil act. So a person suffering should have the final say in if they can die.

 

[stoney126]

I'd say most suicides are rational and had years of suicidal thoughts behind them. I know that men and particular older men commit the most suicide, they take the time to weigh the pros and cons, research methods etc. before deciding to go.

The younger you get, the more emotional/situational a suicide gets in general and with that you get more impulsive attempts. I'd guess these suicides make up less than 25% of all total suicides, although they make up the bulk of Hollywood depictions.

I think those, who commit suicide impulsively, or swiftly are more likely to have had a better go at life, had they continued, obviously.

I agree with this as well. OP seems to just be completely guessing with his 90% number lol.

In my mind, the older the person is who commits suicide, the more likely it is that they have thought it through and are doing it because of their overall situation. Younger people are more likely to be impulsive and choose to attempt suicide over smaller things and less life issues.

For example, a younger person might choose to CTB because they broke up with their SO, got caught cheating on a test in university, got kicked out by their parents, etc. Basically, they are emotional and don't know what the future holds, so they choose to CTB.

An older person might choose to CTB because they have larger life problems. Maybe they got fired from their job and are now looking at homelessness. Or they have found out about a significant medical problem that will decrease their quality of life significantly in their remaining years, leading them to CTB.

Obviously, these aren't universally true at all, but this is just me talking in generalities.

Here is a graph showing suicide rates by age groups:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/US_Suicide_Rate_by_Age.svg/1920px-US_Suicide_Rate_by_Age.svg.png

Personally, I assume people committing suicide in the 85+ group are doing it for less emotional reasons than those in the 15-24 group (on average), but that's just me.

 

[TimeToDie]

The dead no longer exist so they will never regret their decision to CTB. Only those who survive can potentially regret their attempt.

Not all suicide are crated equal. There are impulsive deaths like a teen who is distraught because her BF broke up with her, which is not significant since in a couple months she'd have a new guy in her life. I don't see anybody impulsive around here. In fact, we're the polar opposite of impulsive -- carefully planning and procrastinating.

 

[Kjo]

Gave it 15+ years since first attempt. It doesn't get better for everyone...

 

[stoney126]

Gave it 15+ years since first attempt. It doesn't get better for everyone...

Shit got me beat! And I thought a decade of planning and 7 years since my first attempt were a long time haha. I guess I have a road of thinking, planning, and waiting ahead of me.

 

[Kjo]

Moments later... I see the ctb cuz of debt thread. Sigh

Shit got me beat! And I thought a decade of planning and 7 years since my first attempt were a long time haha. I guess I have a road of thinking, planning, and waiting ahead of me.

I'm sorry to hear that. A decade of suffering is cruel and I'm very sorry to hear you've been facing this for so long. I wish the best for you and do truly hope it gets better for you or you find peace. Much love.

 

[DreamCatcher]

I first wanted to CTB at 17, but that whole "Life gets better" thing kept poking at me. That's just a joke now.

It doesn't get better, here 20+ years later and I should have gone at 17. It was logical then even though I didn't realize it. It's clear and rational now.

 

[xXSarac3nSlay3rXx]

I first wanted to CTB at 17, but that whole "Life gets better" thing kept poking at me. That's just a joke now.

It doesn't get better, here 20+ years later and I should have gone at 17. It was logical then even though I didn't realize it. It's clear and rational now.

I'm 19 and don't see any great prospects for my life. Sure, maybe things could get better, of course they could. However, I have a sneaking suspicion I'll end up like you 20 years down the line, just having wasted my time.

 

[DreamCatcher]

I'm 19 and don't see any great prospects for my life. Sure, maybe things could get better, of course they could. However, I have a sneaking suspicion I'll end up like you 20 years down the line, just having wasted my time.

I did experience a lot of life and things during that time, so I wouldn't say it was completely wasted. But life never became "good". I'd say it's optional, if there are bucket list things you'd like to do then do them, if not feel free to leave whenever you like.

Certainly a few good memories in there too. So if you want to collect more of those, then more years might help. But again that doesn't really mean much if life in general sucks.

 

[Deivis]

I first wanted to CTB at 17, but that whole "Life gets better" thing kept poking at me. That's just a joke now.

It doesn't get better, here 20+ years later and I should have gone at 17. It was logical then even though I didn't realize it. It's clear and rational now.

Oh hell, thats exactly what I deemed to write to the original poster, just from my first-person experience. And then I scrolled down and bumped into your reply! :)
Being 38 at the moment, I'd say you've described it very accurately. If I had to summarize my last 20 years, I'd limit it to one line "Nothing special. Basically it sucked".
And fast forward to the year 2039, +20 years from now. To summarize again? Same line! "Nothing special. It sucked".
For so many people in life ... if some imaginary supreme being unravel the scroll of their future life, they would have seen how basic, unimportant, uneventful their life _will_ be up until their old age. They'd probably stop eating and sleeping for the whole month.

 

[xXSarac3nSlay3rXx]

I did experience a lot of life and things during that time, so I wouldn't say it was completely wasted. But life never became "good". I'd say it's optional, if there are bucket list things you'd like to do then do them, if not feel free to leave whenever you like.

Certainly a few good memories in there too. So if you want to collect more of those, then more years might help. But again that doesn't really mean much if life in general sucks.

I won't deny that I've had my fair share of good memories. Good moments are just too few and far between it seems. Maybe my perspective is just distorted, I don't know.

Ultimately, I don't see what good any of my experiences will be when I'm ultimately destined to nothingness. When I'm dead and gone, I won't be able to regret not having crossed more items off my buckey list or be able to look back fondly on pleasant memories. I just wont: period.

 

[TheBlackSwordsman]

Im soon to be 39. I assume most people would say that my "reasons" for wanting to ctb arent legitimate enough. Looking back now, I can see more clearly that I always had personal issues and made a lot of poor choices beyond the circumstances that I feel in particular have led me to where I find myself now. What has happened is that the things or goals I would previously preoccupy my time with, in the face of my current circumstances seem hollow. I am constantly questioning just why should I care about any of those things. Even, if I was able to fix my issues, I do not feel like that would bring back any value to things for me. Its like something broke in me and it cant be fixed. It will never get better. Im not sure i want it to get better. It may be that i want it to get worse, worse enough that i can build up enough momentum to go through with the final option.

 

[DreamCatcher]

Oh hell, thats exactly what I deemed to write to the original poster, just from my first-person experience. And then I scrolled down and bumped into your reply! :)
Being 38 at the moment, I'd say you've described it very accurately. If I had to summarize my last 20 years, I'd limit it to one line "Nothing special. Basically it sucked".
And fast forward to the year 2039, +20 years from now. To summarize again? Same line! "Nothing special. It sucked".
For so many people in life ... if some imaginary supreme being unravel the scroll of their future life, they would have seen how basic, unimportant, uneventful their life _will_ be up until their old age. They'd probably stop eating and sleeping for the whole month.

Yeah, it's not just the past, it's looking into the future too.

I can see cool technology and new things coming around the corner. But life in general will still suck regardless of whatever happens. More of the same really.

Reminds me of that existential crisis scene in the Ants movie. To paraphrase: "I feel like my life doesn't matter and I'm just an unimportant piece of a greater machine that doesn't care and my life will be and has forever been meaningless in the greater scheme of things." Psychiatrist "Well that's exactly how it is, so you're perfectly normal"

I won't deny that I've had my fair share of good memories. Good moments are just too few and far between it seems. Maybe my perspective is just distorted, I don't know.

Ultimately, I don't see what good any of my experiences will be when I'm ultimately destined to nothingness. When I'm dead and gone, I won't be able to regret not having crossed more items off my buckey list or be able to look back fondly on pleasant memories. I just wont: period.

It won't matter to you then, but maybe it's an experience you want now?

*Big shrugs*

At that point it's just choosing when you want to leave. There isn't any reason to stay or go since it won't really matter in the long run anyway. Just do whatever is best for you.

 

[TheBlackSwordsman]

Yeah, it's not just the past, it's looking into the future too.

I can see cool technology and new things coming around the corner. But life in general will still suck regardless of whatever happens. More of the same really.

Reminds me of that existential crisis scene in the Ants movie. To paraphrase: "I feel like my life doesn't matter and I'm just an unimportant piece of a greater machine that doesn't care and my life will be and has forever been meaningless in the greater scheme of things." Psychiatrist "Well that's exactly how it is, so you're perfectly normal"


It won't matter to you then, but ma

Thats quite a scene from a supposed kids movie. There are all sorts of technological advancements that may happen in the next several decades. Gene therapy and potentially cloning and who knows what else and then mind machine melding or the singularity. For those who are familiar with the show Fringe, there is a guy I listen to sometimes on youtube and he said once that eventually(think he said next 100yrs) humans will gain the abilities of Observers. What does all of this mean? I think the question of whether life is worth living is a question that can only be answered internally. External things cant be the focus, they can only serve as catalysts that help unlock the answer within yourself.