Discussion What methods will 100% work?

[knydane]

I'm just curious, if I ever decide to ctb, and don't want to fail, what methods would you say 100% work. I wouldn't do hanging because it's too traumatising, and I wouldn't use a shotgun because I can't legally get one. I really want to try drowning for some reason

 

[OrphicEnd]

100% does not exist, there can always be unforeseen circumstances.
Among the least gruesome methods, which have a high success rate, are hanging (it's possible to hyperventilate before passing out just before) and SN (which depends a lot on the quality of the antiemetic treatment followed) I think.

 

[theboy]

Gunshot

 

[an_alias]

I really want to try drowning for some reason

Drowning probably isn't your best bet here. it's probably the most painful and traumatising way to suffocate - your survival instincts will kick in very quickly, and that's why waterboarding exists.

 

[MyLifeisHell]

Jumping off the top of a skyscraper.

 

[RainLover]

Drowning probably isn't your best bet here. it's probably the most painful and traumatising way to suffocate - your survival instincts will kick in very quickly, and that's why waterboarding exists.

SWB tries to avoid the feeling of drowning while drowning as you are unconscious.

No method has a 100%, every method has its pros and cons, but if you're looking to something reliable, firearms, hanging, and inert gases are some options in my opinion, again there is not a method perfect to everyone, you will have to see which suits you the best

 

[Praestat_Mori]

100% only exists with full suspension hanging (all full suspension methods). If you are not rescued and you can't get your feet onto sth you will die whether you pass out quickly or not.

Did you ever see a convict survive a death penalty by hanging?

 

[RainLover]

Jumping off the top of a skyscraper.

Depends a lot on the impact, there has been reports of people surviving from falls from every height, it is probable you die, but there is always a chance you don't, and the consequences in that case are massive

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

no idea how this guy survived. result of shotgun to his head.

 

[Arihman]

You know, maybe there should be a thread ranking ctb methods by reliability, using percentages to show the odds of success and failure, and the consequences of the latter. Just saying.

 

[sensenmann]

no idea how this guy survived. result of shotgun to his head.

I have seen a few of people like this, in most cases they flinched or held the shotgun wrong.

 

[outrider567]

I'm just curious, if I ever decide to ctb, and don't want to fail, what methods would you say 100% work. I wouldn't do hanging because it's too traumatising, and I wouldn't use a shotgun because I can't legally get one. I really want to try drowning for some reason

Nitrogen

I'm just curious, if I ever decide to ctb, and don't want to fail, what methods would you say 100% work. I wouldn't do hanging because it's too traumatising, and I wouldn't use a shotgun because I can't legally get one. I really want to try drowning for some reason

Jumping off the Empire State Building in NYC

 

[Forever Sleep]

Assisted suicide at a clinic. Presumably- if something goes wrong- they will have a backup plan. They aren't going to want to get a reputation for maiming people.

You know, maybe there should be a thread ranking ctb methods by reliability, using percentages to show the odds of success and failure, and the consequences of the latter. Just saying.

There is:

Suicide Methods

Suicide Methods, by peacefulness (vs agony) (2022) mix of methods from legal resources (wikipedia, this site, and other websites available on the clear net) Nembutal 10 0 10 8 Liquid 1 Nitrogen / Sarco 10 10 10 10 Gas/Mask 10 Fentanyl 10 2 6 7 Injection 2 Carfentanil 10 1 10 10...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[DeadHead]

100% only exists with full suspension hanging (all full suspension methods). If you are not rescued and you can't get your feet onto sth you will die whether you pass out quickly or not.

Did you ever see a convict survive a death penalty by hanging?

This is the cold, hard truth. It literally is the only 100% way. And the simplest. But far from the easiest.

 

[ayaneechan]

100% only exists with full suspension hanging (all full suspension methods). If you are not rescued and you can't get your feet onto sth you will die whether you pass out quickly or not.

Did you ever see a convict survive a death penalty by hanging?

Hanging can fail even if not done correctly, when I attempted with this method I failed cuz this and I not attempted gain. It was an impulsive attempt and not planed

 

[Duality]

I'll also chime in and say that no method is 100%, but there are methods that are very effective anyway where I wouldn't worry about the failure rate.

A gunshot with the barrel in your mouth, aimed towards the brainstem, is one of the most effective ways with very little risk. I have not heard of someone surviving this.

Anyway I'll leave a link here that lists the success rate of numerous methods (it says shotgun to the head is 99%, but a shotgun in the mouth aimed towards the brainstem would probably be 100%).

https://web.archive.org/web/20200223110931/http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods

 

[tiredangelgirl]

You know, maybe there should be a thread ranking ctb methods by reliability, using percentages to show the odds of success and failure, and the consequences of the latter. Just saying.

someone had made a spreadsheet of this once but I haven't seen it floating around on the site for a while. one thing I don't like about here is i'll see something once and can't find it again



a lot of people keep saying firearms but I knew someone that had shot them selves successfully in the face and still lived. he was older and had severe memory issues for the rest of his life. was overall high functioning but would forget what year it was, his kids names sometimes, etc

 

[locked*n*loaded]

A shotgun blast into the mouth and out the back of the head is as close to 100% as can be achieved. No method can ever be 100% certainty of success because of "unknown unknowns" (things we don't even know that we don't know) in this world.

I understand that the OP has ruled out shotgun because of the reason they stated. Many other methods can be successful if someone is willing to learn all they can about them, ask questions about them, and plan accordingly.

It would be better for the OP to state a method they are leaning towards, and then start a discussion about the pros and cons of that method.

 

[knydane]

A shotgun blast into the mouth and out the back of the head is as close to 100% as can be achieved. No method can ever be 100% certainty of success because of "unknown unknowns" (things we don't even know that we don't know) in this world.

I understand that the OP has ruled out shotgun because of the reason they stated. Many other methods can be successful if someone is willing to learn all they can about them, ask questions about them, and plan accordingly.

It would be better for the OP to state a method they are leaning towards, and then start a discussion about the pros and cons of that method.

What do you think about the night night method or overdose?

 

[Minsu]

There are some methods that are 100% reliable. For example jumping into the volcano

A shotgun blast into the mouth and out the back of the head is as close to 100% as can be achieved. No method can ever be 100% certainty of success because of "unknown unknowns" (things we don't even know that we don't know) in this world.

I understand that the OP has ruled out shotgun because of the reason they stated. Many other methods can be successful if someone is willing to learn all they can about them, ask questions about them, and plan accordingly.

It would be better for the OP to state a method they are leaning towards, and then start a discussion about the pros and cons of that method.

 

[an_alias]

What do you think about the night night method or overdose?

night-night isn't super reliable and failed attempts can cause brain damage
Overdoses are also unreliable and have terrible consequences

 

[nevermeant2b]

Jumping from a skyscraper or very high structure is the way I'll go

 

[knydane]

Drowning probably isn't your best bet here. it's probably the most painful and traumatising way to suffocate - your survival instincts will kick in very quickly, and that's why waterboarding exists.

Alright, I remember before I was thinking to hang myself but I'm not so sure since a lot of people say it's traumatising for whoever sees it, what do you think?

You know, maybe there should be a thread ranking ctb methods by reliability, using percentages to show the odds of success and failure, and the consequences of the latter. Just saying.

YEAH!! I agree

night-night isn't super reliable and failed attempts can cause brain damage
Overdoses are also unreliable and have terrible consequences

Ohh, right, in the end I'll have to look more into what's right for me anyway

 

[sserafim]

Jumping off the top of a skyscraper.

How tall?

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

Dehydration and starvation have 100 percent mortality.

 

[ae300]

I wouldn't do hanging because it's too traumatising,

That sound a little bit like "Train pls hit me,but don't hurt me".

I really want to try drowning for some reason

You can read about it in various books on forensic medicine. This is external suffocation, your entire body's O2 pool must be depleted until you become unconscious! In hanging only the small O2 pool of your brain. So 2-3 minutes vs 5-10 seconds (averaged). Thats a lot more ... and your can simulate it on your own.

 

[squareminus1]

Did you ever see a convict survive a death penalty by hanging?

Actually this is very different to my knowledge, when one ctbs with hanging a slipknot is used, which can lead to the potentially brutal ways that people mess up and slowly suffocate.

I think the aim when hanging people from a death penalty perspective is to use a hangmans knot and a precicely calculated fall based on the victims weight and build.

A good excecutioner knows how far to drop you so that it breaks your neck instantly and kills you ver quick (some excecutioners even took pride in how swiftly and cleanly they could make this process), obviously they can still mess up in which case yea the person getting excuted will have a bad time but for different reasons I guess, more like getting imediately injured so bad that they internally bleed to death.

But I could be talking out my ass that's just what I think happens.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

@squareminus1 In Iran they don't always use a hangman's knot for execution by hanging.

Hanged by the neck until dead. The process of judicial hanging

If you're interested in calculating the length of the rope for long drop here are the british drop tables (Wikipedia):

Official Table of Drops - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[locked*n*loaded]

What do you think about the night night method or overdose?

Overdoses are notoriously unreliable. I have no opinion on the night-night method.

There are some methods that are 100% reliable. For example jumping into the volcano

That's an unrealistic method, IMO. It's not a method available to many people. And it's doubtful you'd ever get close enough to an active volcano to throw yourself in. Maybe you'd be overcome by the SO2 gas and die that way.