Pessimist
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mm, slow withdrawal also lines up with info i found online, even if it takes months or year(s), it reduces the risk of brain zaps and other withdrawal symptoms.SSRIs saved my life. It took trying a few to find the perfect one. It was like night and day. Before them I was SO depressed, apathetic and had looping negative thoughts I couldn't break out of. I felt no joy. Afterwards, I felt like ME. I was on them for nearly 30 years, even though I felt I didn't need them the last 15 years. I stayed on them because I didn't feel like dealing with the withdrawal. Withdrawing from SSRIs is notoriously difficult. But after a lot of research I found a way of doing it incredibly slowly. I mean so slow it's ridiculous. But it was an easy withdrawal. I would encourage anyone to go on them so is suffering. They may not help. But they sure as heck saved me.
BUT!!!!! If you are under 25 then it might be safer to take Wellbutrin. It's not an SSRI, but it's safer for young folks. I think some young people get worsening suicidal thoughts on SSRIs.
Yes, slow and steady wins the race. I took three years to taper off of only 10 mg. But I didn't suffer at all. Others might feel some discomfort but it's NOTHING compared to the overwhelming discomfort of tapering too quickly. And I took so long to do it because I was on it for decades.mm, slow withdrawal also lines up with info i found online, even if it takes months or year(s), it reduces the risk of brain zaps and other withdrawal symptoms.
Which ones helpedIve been on over 25 psych meds. Only 2 ever helped me but they seemed to lose effect after so many years. Most did nothing at all, some made me even worse.
Everyone is so different in how they respond.
Yeah I feel ya sister, psychiatrists are reptiles, like doctors in general. Psychologists and counsellors are generally human, though, in my experience, a completely different human type.Some work better than others.. loads of side effects.. nothing really works for me anymore.. not that I care about what a Doctor has to say to me about shit anymore..
They burned their bridges.. and what's worse is they keep coming back to find stupid little ways offend me and think they're clever..
Meds suck but they're more effective than any doctor.. they're completely useless except for writing your script.. about all they're ever good for anyways..
Its funny isn't it.. you get told all your childhood.. cops and doctors and lawyers and the rest of it are all good people you can trust.. and you grow up and realize they're some of the most evil scum to ever walk the earth..
Hate the medical people.. the drugs are cool sometimes if you can literally stomach them..
And that's the only reason I'm civil.. for my meds for whatever purpose I need a med for.. I have physical problems too..
But I se it this way.. I went in with chest pains a few months ago.. and I sat there.. and they kept playing mind games during triage.. trying to play me.. and I walked out and decided I'd rather die of a heart attack then deal with their stupid psychotic abuse again.. had a ruptured ovarian cyst a couple weeks ago.. something that normally requires morphine and serious pain meds.. I refused to go.. I'd rather deal with the awful pain than look at their bullshit worthless trash asses.. nope.. hate them all..
I genuinely hate medical people..
They can't really be surprised about that either..
But you know.. if you're willing to walk out and risk a potential heart attack.. maybe that's a sign about where you're really at..
And j decided that day I'd rather be dead of the heart attack..
So if that tells you what if any good any of the psych meds did for me..
It's all a bunch of bullshit.. it's all ahead game.. especially the is that claim to care about your head..
They're all assuming and pretending they care and the rest..
Nobody is more assumptive or rude than a medical person.. and they do it thinking they're being direct and they're just being assumptive and rude..
Hate them all. Don't trust them.. and I wouldn't if I were you but you do you..
Aren't we all here because of how awful the system has treated us.. I figure most people
Here have exhausted every avenue before coming to this conclusion..
You can scream for help for years.. they're deaf.. they don't care.. you can be beaten and raped and beat up and abused and prove it all.. and they don't care..
They're all evil and all corrupt and all sucking the tits of big pharma..
They're worthless.. they're all trash.,
Lying assumptive rude crude evil trash..
With all the bedside manner of feeling like I'm being mentally mauled by a tiger on steroids..
So.. have fun at the Doctor..
I've you're just getting started in that ringer.. I'd go to your general practitioner. They can write those meds and you don't have to do the stupid little dance of some bitch ass psych doc..
As for me.. no.. they didn't matter.. they priced me out of mine and messed with my insurance and I gave up long ago.. it's not worth it to try..
And then they'll cop out that's they're all lost and I'm somehow their brother and I'm not..
They likely mean absolutely nothing to me in real life..
They have an entire website dedicated to just that.. they're stupid idiots that I can't stand and have been taking legal action to get out of my life..
So that what happens when you open pandoras rx box for psych meds..
All the idiots come out.. from every direction..
So yeah.. prevent having to be around heavy psychiatric doctors of medicine as much as you can and get whatever you can rx'd by a regular doctor.. don't expose yourself to a psychiatrist if you don't have to they're awful people..
And GP is a doctor and they're all awful horrible people.. but you only have to talk to them for five minutes..
Don't trust any of them..
They don't care about helping you.. not really.. they only care about trying to paint you some type of way..
But do whatever you want and good luck.. I wish I'd never bothered myself and just shot myself in the head 20 years ago..
Nothing from life has been worth the hell they've made of it the past 20 years..
There isn't anything in life I care about that much.. not even my own kid was worth staying alive for.. that's laughable..
It's always my favorite.. the very doctors that screwed me out of my kid try to use him as a reason to cling to life.. I love it when they're that stupid..
Like I give a fuck about that kid for my own life..
yep they'll screw you out of everything.. run away as fast as you can..
Or you can spend ten year documenting every little last thing to prove them all wrong.. but then ten years of your life are wasted and gone..
And nobody can come back into your life..
I don't know.. maybe keep your illusions.. wherever they may lead..
It's all just a chop shop, man.. they don't give a fuck about anybody.. not really..
Trust me.. I have it in writing time and time again of people literally telling me how nobody cares about me and as if they didnt show that with their actions anyways..
They don't get to come back from that..
Sorry they're called out not because they care..
And now even sleeper because I've made it known I don't forgive them or believe anything they have to say otherwise than what they've said..
But see other people see that and get upset they say those things. But not my problem..
They forget they open Pandora's box too.. and you can't close it..
I worked for a pharmaceutical 3rd party years ago.. and they have nurses and shit on staff.. because we were helping lupus and severe asthma patients get crazy expensive meds for free.. and the meds and sometimes dealing with insurance and definitely Doctors.. sometimes you need a nurse around..
Because a lot of the drugs are infusion drugs meaning they need IV's.. and it's not normal customer care.. they're patients.. and lupus patients.. kid gloves..
So when they let the cat out of the bag they didn't care about me showing up to work with black eyes and threatened to fight me and told me to play in traffic.. and said all this while my ex was sitting in jail for beating me.. a bunch of medical people..
So as you can see.. I came to the conclusion maybe it's better to risk the heart attack than let those people around me..
I've worked in medicine and for big pharma.. it's all bullshit.. it really is.. they don't care..
I did two plus years of med tech school and cna.. it's all a crock of stupid shit..
To the tune of Nurse Jackie probably stealing a vile or two of narcotic meds from the supply closet coming at you about what drugs you're on because they care about you..
And it's really like.. you never seen a real depressed person before.. you are stupid.. maybe go back to nursing school back or lay off the supply closet sauce there baby..
To be fair an MDD at my rate and my level of depression how bad I can get and not be in any drugs.. can be a little rare.. to see full blown depression in all its glory..
But I am..
And are they not prepared for my clap back moods..
Anyways.. you just need to to ask yourself.. are you so fed up with everything and everybody you'll risk having a heart attack.. because I'm an actual prime candidate for one.. what they get for living with that head in the clouds about everything else..
I digress.. if you're ready to say fuck it, bring the heart attack on and let's end this shit.. maybe there is your answer..
And that's another thing.. once they find out you've dealt with some psych problems in the past.. they tend to forget or minimize your physical health.. or make very real physical health problems about something they're not..
Or they'll start accusing you of shit.. they'll be awful..
Even doctors and nurses.. being and taught and knowing full well better.. will pretend all your health is in your head now and you don't have a body anymore..
Everything just becomes all about your brain now and that gets real tiring real fast..
Because if I come in with back pain.. the only head problem I'm having is that it hurts and I'm annoyed and pissed off by that..
But they'll pretend it all in your head and run you through a bunch of costly scans and lo and behold. There's the spinal shit you've been complaining about that the neurosurgeon suggested they operate and fuse.. but it was just all in my head,.
Yeah i used my brain power to manipulate the scan..
And they'll treat like everything you could ever say ever again is always a potential delusion or you're psychotic and nothing about you is real anymore..
And it gets old.. and they don't get people get sick of being treated like that all the time gets old and fast.. and then they wonder why people fall off..
To the tune of showing up to work with black eyes around a bunch of nurses you work with and being told to just go play in traffic and nobody cares about you..
And then turn around being two faced scum and yes mister lupus patient let me help you get drugs.. that's who's pretending to care about you medically..
That's how dangerous and evil the medical game is..
By the way.. the person that beat my head and back in.. was a Doctor.. that's who I put in jail.. he's a surgeon..
That's how evil medical people are..
So sure.. get the drugs by big pharma..
Trust the Doctors.. right..
But not here to judge anybody's experience or any of it.. I just figured most people in here had been through the ringer medically already..
Then again some Pepe don't have those resources or know how to tech out and the rest.,
But for the love of god don't involve an actual psychiatrist..
Just get some idiot run of the mill GP..
A psych is trying to decipher what five hundred possible meanings you could mean out of a single sentence even if you meant what you said.. and it was just that..
That's what I mean.. if you go in to another type of doctor about your back or a migraine.. they'll accuse it on the psych stuff first before they believe you.. you don't have a body anymore.. a body that you understand..
It's all about your head now and they'll reduce you to that every time..
Because they don't like to admit they're dumber than they'd care to admit..
It's baffling to me that they'd ever try to approach me again acting like I don't see right through everything they say and do..
So for me.. the heart attack is preferable.. but they for sure went for it making it about my head rather than my having a chest pain..
So I don't need them or that bullshit in my life around me..
So I walked away..
And now I'm moving away::
Oh and if outside people find out.. get ready for everything about you.. to be turned into some wildly exaggerated truth and you're crazy no matter what..
They find out.. there will never be enough drugs or therapy in the world to convince them that you're not crazy for the rest of your life..
Because humans are trash..
Idiot trash..
And I'm just waiting and waiting for the day they all have the thing that makes them snap or need a medication.. or they can't handle life.. depression effect upwards of 70 percent of people at least once in life..
The odds are stacked against them..and it so funny to watch them all act so above it..
Like it isn't waiting in the shadows for them too..
I'm short.. meds and docs are a crock of insane shit in and of themselves.. use with caution.. and holy fuck I hate peope and humanity.. humanity if fucking dead..
People are only fooling them damn selves if they think they're good or kind people.. what a crock of insane shit..
Kind would have been the cops just letting me die before saving my life last minute 8 years ago..
But if they can't play victim to my c*nt buzzer how else will they find the power to wake up in the morning..
Yeah their little white girl asses never get questioned how any of it got there..
Anyways the drugs suck.. the side effect are awful.. and usually the second you feel better you'll go right off then or your insurance won't cover them or you'll lose your insurance and they're too expensive.. they'll always find a way to screw you out of your meds to make you dependent on the system.. because they're traaaaassh.. .
Everything they say about helping people is a lie..
Seriously.. the girls telling you things about your meds over the phone.. I used to work with them.. in real life they tell people
To play in traffic.. they're all pretending to care and be compassionate kind people.. they aren't..
And that's one look for medicine and big pharma to use for themselves.. seemed a lot more honest of them..
That sure is an advertisement for your employees that you employee to care about lupus patients.. it's a leeewwq alright..
Needless to say they don't go on my resume I'm too ashamed to say I worked for a company that was wiling to associate itself with people that awful working that level of sensitive work..
And tolerated that level of clear psychopath really.. and tolerating to the tune of letting her be around fragile patients like lupus patients..
Thats how corrupt and two faced and awful they all really are.. and the screen shots of her saying all that is the perfect poster for American medicine and big pharma..
Nothing they say or do makes it ok.. there isn't any apology for that when you're working at that level..
They should have said.. here's the door never come back..
But it's all about office politics and everybody's feelings.. oh yeah.. were there for that psychopaths feelings and not the very sick patients that need infusions..
Because that's the bottom line..
So yeah be careful before you start looking behind the curtain of medical Oz..
It's all a scam.. and it very well could be you just because some crazy white. Girl found a feeling thinks she can harass and threaten you and nobody cares because she finally found a feeling..
Yeah some feelings that crazy bitch found.. telling..
And then ten years later you end up with a c*nt buzzer because you're done with everybody and their bullshit..
Medicine is as corrupt as the cops are..
SNRI's such as Cymbalta or Effexor helped.Which ones helped