What is the benefit of euthanasia?

[Gustav Hartmann]

Some members want euthanasia to be legal. The word "euthanasia" has a bitter taste for me because it was used in my country as an euphemism for killing "life unworthy of life" against the will of the victims. So, I will use "killing on request" instead of euthanasia.

Is the benefit that you will be killed by experts who have access to aids for a painless and quick death? Physicians will only do it if you have a terminal illness. In all other cases their Hippocratic oath prohibits killing on request.

Will it help to overcome your survival instinct? When they are going to give you the needle or whatever the use, they will ask you whether you really want to die now. So, it does not make a difference from "normal" suicide.

 

[wereqryan]

What is the benefit of euthanasia?

Release from suffering.

 

[The Divine Comedy]

I imagine the main takeaway for most is that it comes with the certainty that one will not fail in some horrific and possibly vegetative-inducing fashion.

 

[Amumu]

There are different terms.

For most people on sasu, what they want is "assisted suicide" since in this case a professional gives you N and other stuff and you drink the poison. The professional verify you're dead after you've drunk it in some cases.

For a minority of people, "euthanasia" means the professional kills you directly with a syringe. Imo this should be reserved to people who aren't able to drink the poison themselves.

In brief "assisted suicide" isn't "euthanasia". They aren't the same thing at all, and they raise different ethical issues.

 

[Tempest]

Assisted suicide would allow discussions like these to be brought out of the shadows. People wouldn't have to operate in secret and the stigma would be reduced. Methods would also be kinder and easier to access, especially for people who are physically or mentally unable to procure everything themselves. Legally being able to have someone in the room, even if it's just a doctor, would be a comfort to many. People would also not have to worry about failure or being found in a manner that would traumatize others.

 

[The Divine Comedy]

There are different terms.

For most people on sasu, what they want is "assisted suicide" since in this case a professional gives you N and other stuff and you drink the poison. The professional verify you're dead after you've drunk it in some cases.

For a minority of people, "euthanasia" means the professional kills you directly with a syringe. Imo this should be reserved to people who aren't able to drink the poison themselves.

In brief "assisted suicide" isn't "euthanasia". They aren't the same thing at all, and they raise different ethical issues.

Completely unrelated to this thread but do you play League? I could use an Amumu in duo queue. PM me if you're game.

 

[motel rooms]

Some members want euthanasia to be legal. The word "euthanasia" has a bitter taste for me because it was used in my country as an euphemism for killing "life unworthy of life" against the will of the victims. So, I will use "killing on request" instead of euthanasia.

Yeah, "killing on request" is a much less disturbing name for it. You're very German, aren't you?

 

[Pluto]

I think another benefit would be actual medical research into the elusive 'peaceful pill', rather than society's endless efforts at suppressing humane end-of-life options. Back in the day, one only had to take too many sleeping tablets to never wake up. That makes even today's 'N' potions look like a barbaric solution by comparison.

 

[Chockles]

So I'm not having to drink 200ml instead of 50ml & increased chance of vomiting. So it's assisted suicide I wouldn't feel on my own as scared of failure. So my family could be with me if they chose to be. So I don't have to worry about getting N through customs when I'm so ill already. But it's now hopefully going to be here next week & I must go through with it. No options left.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Yeah, "killing on request" is a much less disturbing name for it. You're very German, aren't you?

If it is very German to be precise, it is good to be very German. I know that the word Euthanasia is ambiguous, and I meant killing on request not assisted suicide.

 

[Rational man]

Some members want euthanasia to be legal. The word "euthanasia" has a bitter taste for me because it was used in my country as an euphemism for killing "life unworthy of life" against the will of the victims. So, I will use "killing on request" instead of euthanasia.

Is the benefit that you will be killed by experts who have access to aids for a painless and quick death? Physicians will only do it if you have a terminal illness. In all other cases their Hippocratic oath prohibits killing on request.

Will it help to overcome your survival instinct? When they are going to give you the needle or whatever the use, they will ask you whether you really want to die now. So, it does not make a difference from "normal" suicide.

Some members want euthanasia to be legal. The word "euthanasia" has a bitter taste for me because it was used in my country as an euphemism for killing "life unworthy of life" against the will of the victims. So, I will use "killing on request" instead of euthanasia.

Is the benefit that you will be killed by experts who have access to aids for a painless and quick death? Physicians will only do it if you have a terminal illness. In all other cases their Hippocratic oath prohibits killing on request.

Will it help to overcome your survival instinct? When they are going to give you the needle or whatever the use, they will ask you whether you really want to die now. So, it does not make a difference from "normal" suicide.

You will understand that descrete euthanasia is happening everywhere. How should we lable ' do not resuscitate ' directives or advanced direction before disease becomes life threatening ?. There is ambiguous terminology associated with health conditions here in England. Old people may not be terminal, but there maybe reluctance of doctors to treat older people by prioritising younger people. After all, old people have had a good life. A ' good innings ' before they 'pop their clogs'....whoops, aunt flo may have lived to 100 ! But she wouldn't have survived the opetaion at 80. Or maybe she would...sounds like a helping hand to me.......who gets to request ?

I already have plan B in place, JUST in case the I get dragged into hospital.

If it is very German to be precise, it is good to be very German. I know that the word Euthanasia is ambiguous, and I meant killing on request not assisted suicide.

Yes, I noticed that in Berlin in Charlottenburg. Very efficient.city. I have good memories there.❤

 

[FuneralCry]

Allowing euthanasia would have many benefits for me. I would not have to resort to using a method that is painful or could fail. Even if I had N, I would have to do everything in secret and other people could get in the way of my plans if they found out. With euthanasia other people would know in advance and they would have to accept it. It may make it easier on the grieving process.

I also believe it would make it easier to overcome the SI, allowing euthanasia as we would not have to do it ourselves. It is difficult to ctb as we are programmed to survive. I think if euthanasia was legal it could be comforting for people, knowing they have a peaceful exit if things got too bad for them, that they could leave on their own terms.
We all deserve the option of euthanasia, it is cruel how the society takes away the peaceful methods and expects us to suffer for decades.

 

[peacefulhorizons]

The prospect of mainlined barbiturates is sexy. By far the best way to enjoy the pharmacology (you won't be enjoying it for long at all lol).

 

[ChrisLeeHZ]

So I'm not having to drink 200ml instead of 50ml & increased chance of vomiting. So it's assisted suicide I wouldn't feel on my own as scared of failure. So my family could be with me if they chose to be. So I don't have to worry about getting N through customs when I'm so ill already. But it's now hopefully going to be here next week & I must go through with it. No options left.

There is a new supplier who sells Dolethal,which contains 20g in 100,so with that,50 ml is enough

 

[demuic]

A more guaranteed peaceful death.

To die in the presence of family or other loved ones rather than alone and in secret, to be discovered and causing more panic and grief to others.

 

[Death is beautiful]

There is a new supplier who sells Dolethal,which contains 20g in 100,so with that,50 ml is enough

What kind of supplier? Was he added to PPH?

 

[irememberinnocence]

I'm more in favour of assisted dying laws such as those that exist in Netherlands, Belgium and soon to be Canada. I mean I think euthanasia is a thing in those places too but that's not the way I'd want to go out. The word has yuck connotations for me too and personally I'd just rather have the means, granted legally, to peacefully end my own life than have a doctor actually do the act for me.

Btw euthanasia is not totally redundant though. Some people cannot end their own lives even if they wish to because their illnesses have rendered them physically incapable of carrying out the act. So in that case they might request a doctor's assistance to do so instead.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

For me personally, I desire a peaceful end above all else. While SN seems to hit that metric for a lot of people, I have struggled immensely with the preparation due to my existing health problems like IBS/GI issues. After a failed attempt, I feel very fed up with having to accept that I will die in pain.

I don't want any medicalized nonsense involved in my death, I simply want legal access to N and the ability to say goodbye to the sparse few people I cherish in this life without being tipped off to officers and being locked in a de facto prison cell.

No monitoring, no insurance policies that try to coerce me into living, no lethal injection, just me drinking my N with no fear or worry that I may be caught and thrust back into a miserable life once more. Serenely drifting off onto nothingness.

I feel that it is my right to have access to a means for ending my life, regardless of what some idiot doctors may say. They have had control over my body for long enough.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

You will understand that descrete euthanasia is happening everywhere. How should we lable ' do not resuscitate ' directives or advanced direction before disease becomes life threatening ?. There is ambiguous terminology associated with health conditions here in England. Old people may not be terminal, but there maybe reluctance of doctors to treat older people by prioritising younger people. After all, old people have had a good life. A ' good innings ' before they 'pop their clogs'....whoops, aunt flo may have lived to 100 ! But she wouldn't have survived the opetaion at 80. Or maybe she would...sounds like a helping hand to me.......who gets to request ?

I already have plan B in place, JUST in case the I get dragged into hospital.

Yes, I noticed that in Berlin in Charlottenburg. Very efficient.city. I have good memories there.❤

Even the killing of "life unworthy of life" against the will of the victims is normal today. The killing happens now prior to birth and guarantees almost no trisomy anymore.

I'm more in favour of assisted dying laws such as those that exist in Netherlands, Belgium and soon to be Canada. I mean I think euthanasia is a thing in those places too but that's not the way I'd want to go out. The word has yuck connotations for me too and personally I'd just rather have the means, granted legally, to peacefully end my own life than have a doctor actually do the act for me.

Btw euthanasia is not totally redundant though. Some people cannot end their own lives even if they wish to because their illnesses have rendered them physically incapable of carrying out the act. So in that case they might request a doctor's assistance to do so instead.

If I were paralysed from the neck down, I would really want a physician to help me to die. And a physician would do it, if it was legal. But most people here seem to be in a good physical condition, many of them in puberty. No physician would kill them, even if it was legal.

Allowing euthanasia would have many benefits for me. I would not have to resort to using a method that is painful or could fail. Even if I had N, I would have to do everything in secret and other people could get in the way of my plans if they found out. With euthanasia other people would know in advance and they would have to accept it. It may make it easier on the grieving process.

I also believe it would make it easier to overcome the SI, allowing euthanasia as we would not have to do it ourselves. It is difficult to ctb as we are programmed to survive. I think if euthanasia was legal it could be comforting for people, knowing they have a peaceful exit if things got too bad for them, that they could leave on their own terms.
We all deserve the option of euthanasia, it is cruel how the society takes away the peaceful methods and expects us to suffer for decades.

Who should do all the killing if euthanasia was legal? What would it do to them? Physicians would not do it because of their Hippocratic oath. Psychopaths?

 

[Blue_mist]

Some members want euthanasia to be legal. The word "euthanasia" has a bitter taste for me because it was used in my country as an euphemism for killing "life unworthy of life" against the will of the victims. So, I will use "killing on request" instead of euthanasia.

Is the benefit that you will be killed by experts who have access to aids for a painless and quick death? Physicians will only do it if you have a terminal illness. In all other cases their Hippocratic oath prohibits killing on request.

Will it help to overcome your survival instinct? When they are going to give you the needle or whatever the use, they will ask you whether you really want to die now. So, it does not make a difference from "normal" suicide.

Euthanasia benefits :
1) no disfigurement
2) guaranteed death with no prolonged suffering or pain under medical supervision
3) i don't have to die alone and be discovered after decomposition takes place.
4) euthanasia applicants have the time to prearrange thier funeral or burial or whatever disposal method they choose. And assign a beneficiary if there was assets and cash.

 

[deflationary]

Who should do all the killing if euthanasia was legal? What would it do to them? Physicians would not do it because of their Hippocratic oath. Psychopaths?

The hippocratic oath doesn't prohibit euthanasia. And if some specific versions do, they can be modified, just like they have been a million times.

Besides, everyone that's capable of doing it themselves, can do it themselves. Physicians would just supply the means and watch over the process to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Weird that you're on a pro-choice forum and think one has to be a psychopath to recognize that death can be preferable to life.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

The hippocratic oath doesn't prohibit euthanasia. And if some specific versions do, they can be modified, just like they have been a million times.

Besides, everyone that's capable of doing it themselves, can do it themselves. Physicians would just supply the means and watch over the process to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Weird that you're on a pro-choice forum and think one has to be a psychopath to recognize that death can be preferable to life.

Sorry, I meant that psychopaths would like to kill people.

 

[noname223]

I am from the same country and I am a strong supporter of assisted suicide. I hope our new government makes a new law.
For me I would be less scared because it is the official way. (no grey area, not buying any illegal N or something)
I think SI would be less. I really like the imagination that it is the officil way. At the moment I feel criminalized. All my professionals tell me I am crazy or try to give me a guilty conscience. I hate that.
There are 1000 and more reasons that assisted suicide should be human right. I do not have the time for that.

If you do not like the term euthanasia you are not obliged to use it.

I think you wousl like to have a discussion about active assisted suicide not passive. I am in favor of both.
Moreover I am in favor of the possibility to abort a child if you know it has trisomy. In my opinion this has nothing to do with the nazi crimes. Maybe we have different ethical views.
Most people on this forum want passive assisted suicide. (Me too.) I do not need someone to do it actively. I need N legally. That's it.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

I imagine the main takeaway for most is that it comes with the certainty that one will not fail in some horrific and possibly vegetative-inducing fashion.

Exactly. It's extremely cruel and perverse to force people to end their lives in violent and painful ways. And what for? What possible benefit? To discourage others from ending their lives when they desperately want to? It really doesn't make any sense.