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TheWorld'sLeftovers

TheWorld'sLeftovers

Low consciousness
Aug 23, 2023
43
I want to know more about this "male loneliness epidemic" and what SaSu's thoughts on it are.
Since suicide is related to loneliness and depression, and since SaSu has such a wide variety of audience, this should be a good discussion.

There are more and more males feeling lonelier, not to mention the suicide rates.
Thoughts?
 
C

come to dust

Arcanist
Oct 28, 2019
454
I'd be interested to know whether this male loneliness trait only applies to straight men or gay men as well.

Straight men often don't value male-male relationships much, and pursue women at the expense of building these relationships. So I would imagine this loneliness is more likely to be an issue for them.
 
anne neum

anne neum

Member
Sep 12, 2023
18
i believe everyone is lonely nowadays. women just have more communities to share it with and established narratives to process those emotions
 
vicarious

vicarious

Post-Apocalyptic Sage
Jul 10, 2023
90
i believe everyone is lonely nowadays. women just have more communities to share it with and established narratives to process those emotions
I haven't found this to be true at all.

I mean, maybe most women do have friends, but from my experience, only being able to get my socialization from online communities, the women that I relate to and share sentiments with are in a microscopic sized community compared to the online manosphere, which is massive and has seeped into every online space imaginable.

It's almost impossible for me to find like-minded women (who aren't mothers or don't have men centered in their lives).
 
absurdtimeline

absurdtimeline

Elementalist
Aug 16, 2022
881
I researched & wrote some thoughts on this. Hopefully I have time to post brief notes soon
 
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lwlaiet8887

lwlaiet8887

Embodiment of failure/Doom poster/Compassionate
Sep 14, 2023
119
People won't acknowledge the reality behind this, but it's because the barrier to entry of being a successful/accepted man in society is much higher than it is being a women. It's not a matter of fairness but reality, men are disposable women are not. It's what I call the "social ticket" (how much innate value do you have to others based on looks and status) The average and even the below average women will have dozens of suitors whilst if you're a below average man you're going to have next to no options and if you do get a romantic partner then there's a good chance they may end up leaving you for someone better. What does this mean? men of this value have no reason to participate in society hence they're more lonely. It's not even just that, it's because people don't want to be friends with low value men and if they're your friends there's a good chance you'll end up being the butt of the joke. I have experienced being both a man of high value and low value, in highshool I was very tall for my age and my only good quality is my exceptionally deep voice, because of this I got a lot of attention from women and people treated me well. Now as an adult I'm below average height, extremely skinny (I'm not kidding I can't even wear clothes normally), have a deeper voice (I sound like some kind of sophisticated news anchor) I have a handsome face, it gets the attention of women but when they look at me physically they don't like what they see hence the consistent coyness I've experienced my whole adult life. It's like, if only you were this much better looking they'd actually desire you. I also get treated much worse by people in general although I've always experienced this due to my unconventional appearance.


Another reason is male socialization, we tend to be a lot more independent minded and less socially inclined like most women leading to a decrease in relationships formed.
 
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duwangJEff

duwangJEff

Member
Sep 12, 2023
28
I'm somewhat new, but I am one of the males in the loneliness epidemic. I don't feel like going into detail right now, but it is quite soul crushing, and I wouldn't be remotely suicidal now if I had more social opportunities