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SoldierOfTheRanks

New Member
Mar 18, 2024
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Whenever I notice parts of someone's reasoning for considering Suicide, I often think that they're being illogical even when I think their reason for it can be objectively justified.
It's concerning how people wind up to the path they're currently on without explicitly being rational in the process. Or at least rational in the same degree that I would consider a standard.

What comes to mind if when you think of your Suicide?
I think that when we desire for Suicide, it's usually caused by a strong sense of immediate want.

Since that's the case, if you were to look at yourself from a bird's eye view as though you were being flown around by it, you would think
"Why does this person want to commit this because of their reason?"
"Why is their reasoning the one they follow even when it could be compared to everything else that exists?"


This "want" is usually characterized by extreme emotions. Are there any good reasons why these emotions even occur in the first place?
Is it a part of a greater cosmic purpose that your instincts can not feel? Or is it simply an "insignificant" part of the world, in a sense?

Have you considered things in an ultimate sense?

What questions have you asked yourself that make you understand the root cause of your problem?
 
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Z-A

Let me go
Mar 3, 2024
164
I feel like this is a subjective question and everyone has their own valid reasons to consider CTB.

I personally want to CTB because I came to the point of no return. The things I have done, the things I have missed my opportunities for. Leading to a chronic mental disorder making daily life difficult and exhausting. Only thing that can put an end to this nonsense is death, I just lack courage that's keeping me trapped here.

In general tho, there's no good or bad reason to desire death. It's someone's wish and I think there's nothing to discuss about it. That's about it.
 
FitsTime

FitsTime

Wizard
Feb 22, 2024
640
I feel like this is a subjective question and everyone has their own valid reasons to consider CTB.

I personally want to CTB because I came to the point of no return. The things I have done, the things I have missed my opportunities for. Leading to a chronic mental disorder making daily life difficult and exhausting. Only thing that can put an end to this nonsense is death, I just lack courage that's keeping me trapped here.

In general tho, there's no good or bad reason to desire death. It's someone's wish and I think there's nothing to discuss about it. That's about it.
It is exactly the same for me.
I understood life in all its aspects and the 'distractions' are not enough to ease the pain or making me want to live anymore... Plus i'm literally surrounded by monkeys, idiots and troublemakers...
 
divinemistress36

divinemistress36

Enlightened
Jan 1, 2024
1,528
This gives me a headache trying to understand what you are talking about
 
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SoldierOfTheRanks

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Mar 18, 2024
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Hmm, I've always attributed life with cause and effect to be the "ultimate" principle it works on in a sense.
Whenever I've been depressed or so, I would consider Suicide with the vague reason that it would be good for my "soul"/"self awareness".
I'd hate to ignore the potential of an "afterlife" and end up somewhere terrible hence I started thinking a lot more about it using the data I have.

I noticed how I view a "meaningful" life seems to deviate really far away from what most folks would consider. In short, I (hopefully) view it purely in a rational sense.
I thought I'd find feedback that share the same values of my line of thinking in this forum.
I will admit that I'm in a clearer state of mind than I was before, neither having feelings of pleasure or pain cancelling the other to the point I'd do something extreme without thinking much.
Yet I still think kicking the bucket early would be the way to go for me; I don't think I'm mentally ill aside from my preceding developmental disorders.

Somehow, I got myself commited to creating a sort of "manifesto" before I want to end this life. I think there may be merit to it because it seeks to apply itself in an universal sense.
I look forward publishing pieces of it here and hearing feedback before I reach a level of clarity then finalizing it.
 
MatrixPrisoner

MatrixPrisoner

Enlightened
Jul 8, 2023
1,109
Because I have lost hope in society. At least in American society. And I can't see myself having the energy at this stage in my life to move to any other country. Americans are the dumbest, laziest, most useless, most selfish and most dishonest subhumans on the face of the planet. I am baffled as to how a country with the shittiest, most classless and most disgusting people has the more wealth and power than almost all other countries.

I was just at the store earlier. In the parking lot there were about 3 dozen shopping carts, halfway curbed, blocking just about every free parking space. The cart collection corral was no more than 30 feet away. Many may view this as a small annoyance. I view it as one of the many examples marking the downfall of human decency. And without social decency, life is shitty, pointless and not worth living.

Loose-cannon killers, shooters and weirdos virtually eveywhere here, and I haven't been lucky enough to cross paths with one that will end me.
 
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jessebessey

Done with life
Mar 7, 2024
15
Whenever I notice parts of someone's reasoning for considering Suicide, I often think that they're being illogical even when I think their reason for it can be objectively justified.
It's concerning how people wind up to the path they're currently on without explicitly being rational in the process. Or at least rational in the same degree that I would consider a standard.

What comes to mind if when you think of your Suicide?
I think that when we desire for Suicide, it's usually caused by a strong sense of immediate want.

Since that's the case, if you were to look at yourself from a bird's eye view as though you were being flown around by it, you would think
"Why does this person want to commit this because of their reason?"
"Why is their reasoning the one they follow even when it could be compared to everything else that exists?"


This "want" is usually characterized by extreme emotions. Are there any good reasons why these emotions even occur in the first place?
Is it a part of a greater cosmic purpose that your instincts can not feel? Or is it simply an "insignificant" part of the world, in a sense?

Have you considered things in an ultimate sense?

What questions have you asked yourself that make you understand the root cause of your problem?
My wife is divorcing me and my job is in jeopardy and I an afraid of benzo withdrawal
 
lament.

lament.

the Immortal
Jun 28, 2023
157
Everyday is endless torture inside my own mind. Everyday is endless pain physically. I have no motivation to do anything and honestly I don't want that motivation. Life is tiring and I have long been exhausted. I have no feasible way of improving myself physically dramatically enough to make a difference in the short-mid term and I do not want to wait years upon years for the faint hope that in the long-term my condition will improve. And psychologically there is absolutely no hope, save replacing myself with another. The most logical decision in my situation is to die.
 
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juna

Death is the only truth...
Mar 4, 2024
136
For me, I am still trapped and hurt by my past. My miserable childhood hurts me and I can't fall asleep at night because I keep remembering all the hurtful things. I was well on the path of recovery when I was 21, got a good job, had very nice friends, was beginning to learn how to be like normal people, how to feel normal and then, my parents started pressurizing me to get married to someone I don't even know the name of, they just wanted to get rid of me. My mother said that that person would do me a favor by marrying me. It still hurts me to think about that. I refused a million times and she kept insisting and somehow, I started remembering my childhood, all the emotional abuse and neglect I had gone through. I did everything right and yet I was still considered a burden. I fell and my trauma returned to me. I haven't felt happy ever since. It has been 8 years and my present is beautiful but I can't feel any happiness. I can't even think about marriage. I can't think about kids. I can't think of any future. All I have in me is rage and anger at my mother mostly. I was happy for the first time at 21 years age and she took it away too. My whole world crumbled, couldn't keep that job, decided to ctb but then I thought I will do just 1 thing for me. I always wanted to go abroad to study and here I am, 4 years after that and I am so exhausted. I have everything a person would need and yet I can't feel a single shred of happiness. I don't see any point of my life. I am tired and just want to ctb and get this life over with. I start crying at random moments thinking about the past, I am so trapped and I know there is no escape. I just want this pain to end. I cry for hours sometimes, I don't eat for days sometimes, I can't help it. I tried to fix everything, started exercising, joined clubs but I find no respite. I guess once a glass is broken, it can't be fixed anymore.
 
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Squidward

This is as brave as I know how to be...
Apr 18, 2018
80
1. I remember praying for death as a kid and have consistently struggled to tolerate this existence for at least a decade.

2. I can't remember or think of a place truly more desirable to be.

3. I am similarly consistent in failing to appreciate the resources I consume to remain, haven't achieved anything I'm proud enough to remember, and have kept relationships platonic for my entire adulthood. (No one is dependent on me.)

Seem like solid enough reasons for a 30yr old to check out. In the ultimate sense, what I do means remarkably little.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
7,587
While you're busy looking at your life and problems from an aerial perspective, you're not living. You're not experiencing the same stress- of course it's easier to live if you're not actually experiencing stress or discomfort. Just watching the world go by.

The reality of life is- whatever problems we are facing, we have to take action to solve them. Ok- it's reasonable to suggest someone may be 'making mountains out of molehills' so- trying to step back and look at our options logically without panic and distress is a good idea.

But eventually, we will have to take action. If someone hates their job, they may quit and find a new job. What if they hate that too? If they are struggling with trauma or depression, they may try therapy or medication- or both. What if those things don't work? Sure- there are lots of things we can try in life to try and improve our situations. I imagine most people here have tried- do you suppose everyone has just given up without trying?!!

I imagine a lot of people are simply tired of the process of trying to make things better. Putting so much effort in and getting so little reward. So then- that thought pops in: 'Why should I? I'm not doing this for me anymore. I don't believe in the fairytale happy ending anymore. Why should I take part in this system? Why should I keep trying?'

Life is much harder to live when the motivation to try has gone and nothing is even enjoyable. What's more- no one can promise that things will get better- although they will try to. No one knows. That person could well continue to live but be unhappy the entirety of their life. Is that ok?
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
8,509
Have you considered things in an ultimate sense?

What questions have you asked yourself that make you understand the root cause of your problem?
In my case I would say I have considered the things in an "ultimate sense" right after my big failure in life. The root cause of my problem is money which I cannot generate in satisfying amounts anymore and a wage-slave job is out of question bc that won't be the solution to my problem either.

To prevent myself from further suffering in life I consider suicide.
 
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strangelife

strangelife

Specialist
Feb 16, 2024
368
I am tired of suffering from a physical illness, which, of course, in turn causes depression, life no longer brings positive emotions and it all kills me, I don't want to live like this at all
 
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FuneralCry

She wished that she never existed...
Sep 24, 2020
34,102
Because I don't wish to be burdened with something so torturous and futile as human existence for decades on end, to me existence itself is the true problem, it's an incredibly harmful imposition that causes nothing but suffering, torment and problems there was never a need for.

I honestly don't understand why anyone would want existence, to me existence is evil and an abomination as it's the source of all suffering. In my case only suicide is rational because I see existence itself is completely undesirable especially because as long as one exists there is literally no limit as to how much agony they can feel yet nobody can be harmed by permanent non-existence, to exist means to suffer so unnecessarily all while risking experiencing way worse torment at any moment.

Existence disturbs me actually, under no circumstances would I ever want to suffer in this disgusting world, the thought of suffering for decades just to be tortured by very old age is horrifying to me. I'd certainly always prefer to not exist no matter what, I'd always prefer the true peace of non-existence over meaningless suffering in an existence I never wished for in the first place that was always futile and unnecessary.
 
sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that's just me
Sep 13, 2023
7,365
Life itself is simply undesirable for me. I'm not okay with the idea of wage slaving for my entire life and always settling with less
Same. I refuse to accept this
Because I have lost hope in society. At least in American society. And I can't see myself having the energy at this stage in my life to move to any other country. Americans are the dumbest, laziest, most useless, most selfish and most dishonest subhumans on the face of the planet. I am baffled as to how a country with the shittiest, most classless and most disgusting people has the more wealth and power than almost all other countries.

And without social decency, life is shitty, pointless and not worth living.
Literally. This always puzzled me. I don't understand how America is the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world when the general population is dumb and stupid, like the rednecks who voted for Trump. The vast majority of Americans are uneducated and have no critical thinking skills. They're basically mindless, brainwashed sheep. They buy into groupthink and herd mentality because they can't think for themselves. They're normies norming. They also seem to have no class. America is a country with no culture or class, it has no high culture like European high culture. Money doesn't buy class.
 
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darkenmydoorstep

Not Waving But Browned Off….
Sep 27, 2023
405
Whenever I notice parts of someone's reasoning for considering Suicide, I often think that they're being illogical even when I think their reason for it can be objectively justified.
It's concerning how people wind up to the path they're currently on without explicitly being rational in the process. Or at least rational in the same degree that I would consider a standard.

What comes to mind if when you think of your Suicide?
I think that when we desire for Suicide, it's usually caused by a strong sense of immediate want.

Since that's the case, if you were to look at yourself from a bird's eye view as though you were being flown around by it, you would think
"Why does this person want to commit this because of their reason?"
"Why is their reasoning the one they follow even when it could be compared to everything else that exists?"


This "want" is usually characterized by extreme emotions. Are there any good reasons why these emotions even occur in the first place?
Is it a part of a greater cosmic purpose that your instincts can not feel? Or is it simply an "insignificant" part of the world, in a sense?

Have you considered things in an ultimate sense?

What questions have you asked yourself that make you understand the root cause of your problem?
Although many people try to escape their woes impulsively, many others on this forum are incredibly rational about it, that's why they research and plan instead of doing things on the spur of the moment.

As I see it, there can be nor should be bird's eye view objectivity when given to an individual's state of mind. It can only ever be subjective since you are the only inhabitant of your own soul. Only we know the torment we personally go through each day. No-one else has to live your life so why should they get a say in it?
 
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Forveleth

I knew I forgot to do something when I was 15...
Mar 26, 2024
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I'm in my 40s. I've had time to experience life, make big choices, fail, try again. I've fallen into depression, gotten treatment. I've hated jobs, gotten new ones. I've started and ended bad habits and started better ones. In other words, I've had the time and life experience to do all of the things you're "supposed" to do to be happy.

Yet here I am, so incredibly sad. I've worked hard my entire life doing what I thought would make me happy while also providing for survival and it's been all for nothing. My depression started in my teens and after all the shit I've done, it's still here. If I've done everything I'm supposed to do to be happy and I'm not, then there is nothing left for me but extending my suffering. I choose to not suffer any longer.
 
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goodoldnoname923

Wanting to find peace
Mar 28, 2024
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Whenever I notice parts of someone's reasoning for considering Suicide, I often think that they're being illogical even when I think their reason for it can be objectively justified.
It's concerning how people wind up to the path they're currently on without explicitly being rational in the process. Or at least rational in the same degree that I would consider a standard.

What comes to mind if when you think of your Suicide?
I think that when we desire for Suicide, it's usually caused by a strong sense of immediate want.

Since that's the case, if you were to look at yourself from a bird's eye view as though you were being flown around by it, you would think
"Why does this person want to commit this because of their reason?"
"Why is their reasoning the one they follow even when it could be compared to everything else that exists?"


This "want" is usually characterized by extreme emotions. Are there any good reasons why these emotions even occur in the first place?
Is it a part of a greater cosmic purpose that your instincts can not feel? Or is it simply an "insignificant" part of the world, in a sense?

Have you considered things in an ultimate sense?

What questions have you asked yourself that make you understand the root cause of your problem?
The guilt of my actions,the people i'velost and hurt the pain i feel from those loses,the lack of experiences and furfilment in my life,the constant and endless hatred and misunderstanding i feel,the person i've become…the past mistakes I can't deal with…my inability to change,the lack of real passions or enegry my lack of a future my lack of academic achievements despite my potential and thats all i can think of for now but there is many more reasons
 

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