vonvonwantpeace
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- Jul 26, 2019
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As you know, censorship around the world has been ramping up at an alarming pace. The UK and OFCOM has singled out this community and have been focusing its censorship efforts here. It takes a good amount of resources to maintain the infrastructure for our community and to resist this censorship. We would appreciate any and all donations.
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I think it makes you angry because it doesn't assume that humans are good or important. And those animals are not in zoos so that we can take care of them, they are in zoos because it is a capitalistic endeavor to gain money from people coming to gawk at them. It is truly amazing that you are able to discern what other living things feel and don't feel. It is probably the case that the other living things have a whole set of things they are concerned with that we have no clue about. And I'm not saying that other living things are better than us in this selfish, murderous world.I don't really know why it makes me so angry, but no, not the way 'we' treat other living things. There are major differences:
Even we hold animals captive in zoos (yes I do feel bad for them), we feed and take care of them. Humans, when they are captive in terrible situations, still have to have the energy and capability to take care of themselves. 99 per cent of the misery is the humiliation, fear and regret for not being able to take care of yourself. Animals do not have that thrust on them.
Yes, we eat animals. The actual act of killing them does not bother me one bit, I don't care about my own fucking death, I'm not crying because an animal bred to be food died. Dead animals are not suffering, they are fucking dead.
I am not some monster who is fine with making animals suffer, but also I cannot stand pretending it is the same thing as human suffering. Humans have more responsibility on them. Ducks do not off themselves because the only duck in the world to truly connect with them wants some other duck. We do. We are cursed with more needs.
What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
The existence of a hell would be unfortunate. However if there is hell there is heaven and God and all that stuff.What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?
I think it makes you angry because it doesn't assume that humans are good or important. And those animals are not in zoos so that we can take care of them, they are in zoos because it is a capitalistic endeavor to gain money from people coming to gawk at them. It is truly amazing that you are able to discern what other living things feel and don't feel. It is probably the case that the other living things have a whole set of things they are concerned with that we have no clue about. And I'm not saying that other living things are better than us in this selfish, murderous world.
You live in a house right? Do you spend much time looking at the wood and being concerned with how awesome it must have been to be a tree? Photosynthesizing, stomata opening and releasing, blowing in the wind? No, you use it to live in. Or a child who tore of the back end of firefly's to make a pretty glowing ring? That is what I believe the lake of fire is and the burning of human souls for eternity is probably a convenient renewable energy source or cool looking fountain for some other 'life form' or dimension. And they just don't care.
Isn't this hypocritical? You're kind of implying that you also want to cause suffering.People who want to cause suffering should worry about Hell, not people who kill themselves to end suffering.
I feel like its as much a possibility as me waking up as a banana. Yes it could happen, but its so out there I don't worry much about it. It's pretty clear looking historically that people made up at least the current idea of hell, the fire and brimstone and eternal torture. That's based on Dante's Inferno and not the various religious books, even if you accept those as valid. That doesn't mean there isn't some other "punishment" concept possible, but it seems so petty and human like as an idea and it serves no purpose at all because suffering forever teaches no lessons or pays back even the worst possible Earthly crime.
Thats how I feel about it..if there is a hell its not a question of IF, but WHEN... But honestly... i just dont think hell is the case.That would suck, but there would be nothing I could have done about it. I'd eventually die anyway.
THis is the moment where a well meaning pro-lifer steps in and says: "Ahem,,but Earth is what YOu make of it...." sighEarth is hell
Isn't this hypocritical? You're kind of implying that you also want to cause suffering.
If there's an afterlife I hope it's unconditionally good. Maybe once free of suffering no one will want to cause it.
I'm aware that I'll go there and honestly, I deserve it.What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?
Too bad there was no fear mongering for life, before I took my first breathHell, at least as it's been conventionally thought of, does not exist. I'm convinced that religion has used the notion of eternal suffering to compel it's followers to submit. It's largely fear mongering, a play on our emotions.
But, yeah. Although I am not a believer of any religion, the thought of there being a hell terrifies me.What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?
What if some of us are already there, or all of us? The happy people being the equivalent of an npc of a video game, with the purpose of their existence being one way to torture us (with their contentment with life).
Just another one of my many bizarre thoughts, haha
But, yeah. Although I am not a believer of any religion, the thought of there being a hell terrifies me.