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vonvonwantpeace

vonvonwantpeace

Specialist
Jul 26, 2019
331
Earth is hell
 
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not from here

not from here

Never was
Jul 14, 2019
35
I don't really know why it makes me so angry, but no, not the way 'we' treat other living things. There are major differences:

Even we hold animals captive in zoos (yes I do feel bad for them), we feed and take care of them. Humans, when they are captive in terrible situations, still have to have the energy and capability to take care of themselves. 99 per cent of the misery is the humiliation, fear and regret for not being able to take care of yourself. Animals do not have that thrust on them.

Yes, we eat animals. The actual act of killing them does not bother me one bit, I don't care about my own fucking death, I'm not crying because an animal bred to be food died. Dead animals are not suffering, they are fucking dead.

I am not some monster who is fine with making animals suffer, but also I cannot stand pretending it is the same thing as human suffering. Humans have more responsibility on them. Ducks do not off themselves because the only duck in the world to truly connect with them wants some other duck. We do. We are cursed with more needs.
I think it makes you angry because it doesn't assume that humans are good or important. And those animals are not in zoos so that we can take care of them, they are in zoos because it is a capitalistic endeavor to gain money from people coming to gawk at them. It is truly amazing that you are able to discern what other living things feel and don't feel. It is probably the case that the other living things have a whole set of things they are concerned with that we have no clue about. And I'm not saying that other living things are better than us in this selfish, murderous world.
You live in a house right? Do you spend much time looking at the wood and being concerned with how awesome it must have been to be a tree? Photosynthesizing, stomata opening and releasing, blowing in the wind? No, you use it to live in. Or a child who tore of the back end of firefly's to make a pretty glowing ring? That is what I believe the lake of fire is and the burning of human souls for eternity is probably a convenient renewable energy source or cool looking fountain for some other 'life form' or dimension. And they just don't care.
 
SelfHatingAspie

SelfHatingAspie

Ambitious but rubbish
Jul 2, 2019
198
What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?

In the highly unlikely event that all those bible bashers got this one right, I'd lean into it. I figure that many people God-fearing Christians want to see go to Hell are probably the kind of folks I'd want to party with.
 
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Dead beat dad

Dead beat dad

Enlightened
Mar 5, 2019
1,030
What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?
The existence of a hell would be unfortunate. However if there is hell there is heaven and God and all that stuff.
How dare anyone ask me to beg their forgiveness for the suffering they inflicted upon me to keep me out of hell.
Hell is just a point of view for a lot of us, at least it will be a change of scenery.
God can ask for my forgiveness when the time comes and then we'll see who is truly humble.
Peace brother
DBD
 
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woxihuanni

woxihuanni

Illuminated
Aug 19, 2019
3,299
I think it makes you angry because it doesn't assume that humans are good or important. And those animals are not in zoos so that we can take care of them, they are in zoos because it is a capitalistic endeavor to gain money from people coming to gawk at them. It is truly amazing that you are able to discern what other living things feel and don't feel. It is probably the case that the other living things have a whole set of things they are concerned with that we have no clue about. And I'm not saying that other living things are better than us in this selfish, murderous world.
You live in a house right? Do you spend much time looking at the wood and being concerned with how awesome it must have been to be a tree? Photosynthesizing, stomata opening and releasing, blowing in the wind? No, you use it to live in. Or a child who tore of the back end of firefly's to make a pretty glowing ring? That is what I believe the lake of fire is and the burning of human souls for eternity is probably a convenient renewable energy source or cool looking fountain for some other 'life form' or dimension. And they just don't care.

I obviously do not think humans are good or important. A lot of humans are sick fucks.

No, they are not in zoos because we want to take care of them. They are there for our fun, as a side effect we do take care of them. If we are here for anybody's fun, they don't even take care of us. Is the point.

We have the most complex brain and all the desires and malfunction that comes with it. That is all there is to it unless one goes around believing in spirits.

The wood is dead. It's not suffering.

I have never torn the wing off anything, and turn bugs the right away if they are struggling. Or kill them if they too badly hurt. That is precisely the point, I do not enjoy suffering, simply do not mind killing to fulfill my needs. And the imaginary power you speak of that thrives on the actual suffering we feel, no it would not be like me. It would be like people who enjoy raping and torturing.
 
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Nanimoaru

Nanimoaru

I wanna fade away like I never was
Sep 15, 2018
153
It does scare me, because I just want this pain to end
How can god say he loves me when he took the one person who made this life livable away?
 
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Black_Knight

Member
Jul 10, 2019
79
People who want to cause suffering should worry about Hell, not people who kill themselves to end suffering.
Isn't this hypocritical? You're kind of implying that you also want to cause suffering.
If there's an afterlife I hope it's unconditionally good. Maybe once free of suffering no one will want to cause it.
 
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HGL91

HGL91

Warlock
Jul 2, 2019
720
I feel like its as much a possibility as me waking up as a banana. Yes it could happen, but its so out there I don't worry much about it. It's pretty clear looking historically that people made up at least the current idea of hell, the fire and brimstone and eternal torture. That's based on Dante's Inferno and not the various religious books, even if you accept those as valid. That doesn't mean there isn't some other "punishment" concept possible, but it seems so petty and human like as an idea and it serves no purpose at all because suffering forever teaches no lessons or pays back even the worst possible Earthly crime.

Yeah. Nature doesn't have "chosen punishments" for humans. Humans have chosen punishments for humans. Nature is just random. So, while dying is varied for humans, death will be equal for all.
 
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Bagger

Bagger

Stressful
Jun 18, 2019
331
When my suicidal impulse wake up i don't care. I don't think about it. It is all or nothing then. I just want to go.
 
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Dawn0071111

Dawn0071111

Hungry Ghost
Dec 9, 2018
570
That would suck, but there would be nothing I could have done about it. I'd eventually die anyway.
Thats how I feel about it..if there is a hell its not a question of IF, but WHEN... But honestly... i just dont think hell is the case.
Earth is hell
THis is the moment where a well meaning pro-lifer steps in and says: "Ahem,,but Earth is what YOu make of it...." sigh
 
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Astral316

Astral316

Specialist
Aug 26, 2019
332
Isn't this hypocritical? You're kind of implying that you also want to cause suffering.
If there's an afterlife I hope it's unconditionally good. Maybe once free of suffering no one will want to cause it.

I wouldn't be the cause, their intent would be the cause. I agree though I'd rather experience an afterlife that isn't about punishment. I'm just saying if their is an afterlife where punishment is doled out, suicides would not rank at the top of the list.
 
not from here

not from here

Never was
Jul 14, 2019
35
Please disregard if this offends you..I am sitting here in the desert contemplating letting it take me. I don't know who else to tell this kind of thing. It's 107 and it wouldn't take but a few days at most. If there is punishment and he'll after death I don't it is known by the one's benefitting from our torment. I think there are rather gatekeepers that oversee the lake of fire and hold us there and somehow sell fruits of our torment to unbeknownst beneficiaries. I think it is a circle. I think that is why devout Hindu's when the build take extreme care and gently remove any insects and worms and life from the building site and do not crush them for expediency. I believe, and could be wrong obviously, that it is thought of as okay for humans to experience eternal torment because we have the capacity for empathy but still selfishly destroy and kill. I just wanted to get that out there. Peace bros' and sisses'.
 
Luchs

Luchs

kristallene Bergluft über verfallener Gruft
Aug 20, 2019
528
What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?
I'm aware that I'll go there and honestly, I deserve it.
 
not from here

not from here

Never was
Jul 14, 2019
35
I have always loved the documentaries on ancient Peru. And the ancient warriors buried sitting erect on the hillside watching over their land and people. I have no people, and this is the American SW, I just hope the desert accepts me.
 
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Chantal

Chantal

Member
Oct 5, 2019
76
WE are hell. Human being is hell.
 
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vfghjkjhilkj

Member
Nov 4, 2018
79
I dont believe in hell. But, If hell did exist, I would find it very very hard to believe that we would be there. Persons who are in such anguish that they end their lives..

What about people that kill themselves slowly via drinking or over eating? Will they end up in hell also? It makes no sense.
 
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Reyki6667

Student
Oct 11, 2019
177
I m already on hell, so going somewhere else while leaving my ill brain and crippled body behind would be ultimately better. And I m an atheist. Hell depicted or heaven depicted by all what I qualify man made religion are both impossible and irrational.
 
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SuicidalSymphonies

SuicidalSymphonies

I think I'll take a dirt nap.
Oct 13, 2019
1,028
We are all already in Hell, my dear.
 
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OnlyMercy

OnlyMercy

No More
Oct 23, 2018
190
Hell, at least as it's been conventionally thought of, does not exist. I'm convinced that religion has used the notion of eternal suffering to compel it's followers to submit. It's largely fear mongering, a play on our emotions.
 
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Heart of Ice

Chillin'
Sep 26, 2019
362
It's a possibility. I prefer to think Hell can't exist, as morality is messy anyway. I'm honestly more scared of meeting God than Hell.
 
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LastFlowers

LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
I am already in Hell. Any supposed Hell after death, for me, would just be a continuation of what I deal with in life. If death was not an end to this, then I don't know what in the fuck I would do.
I imagine all those movies where people come back as ghosts and they still look like their human form. Um THAT would be HELL enough for me lol I want this body burned and I don't ever want to see this face again
Hell, at least as it's been conventionally thought of, does not exist. I'm convinced that religion has used the notion of eternal suffering to compel it's followers to submit. It's largely fear mongering, a play on our emotions.
Too bad there was no fear mongering for life, before I took my first breath
 
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Bjsnode28

Student
Apr 19, 2019
106
Most people don't realize this but Eternal torment was not a pillar of church doctrine for the first 5 centuries after Christ. It was first mentioned by was the Latin (West) North African Tertullian (160–220 A.D.), who is considered the Father of the Latin Church. Most of his reasoning comes from his own misinterpreted views on Greek mythology. he also had a major influence on the onset of religious bigotry and hate campaigns in the following centuries.
 
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charlottewilts

charlottewilts

read Dostoyevsky
Jun 15, 2019
494
if Hell exists, i would end up there regardless or whether i live my life's natural course or end it prematurely. if a person who goes to Hell spends an eternity there, then the additional 40-50 years they might exist before they die would be a mere speck. plus, if Hell is supposed to be a place where you ruminate on your sins, i think it'd be better if i had less time to sin and thus less sins to ruminate on.
 
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Dishonorable

Dishonorable

I think there is a flaw in my code
Oct 13, 2019
30
I think about that sometimes, considering I have done some bad things in my life. but honestly? I think living this life is my real hell.
 
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KiraLittleOwl

Lost in transition
Jan 25, 2019
1,083
Guys,
Hell Is not a place, religion nonsense is based on human psychology and social dynamic.
There no great plan, no sense in human understanding, no punishment and no reward I believe.
There so many possibilities that suffering never ends though.
For instance we doomed to live exactly same life over and over for eternity, just without realizing it because this Universe is cycled on itself and every life cycle we exist again but don't remember.
Or maybe there is infinite numbers of different parallel universes and our conciseness just exist in slightly different variations, so it always exist somewhere in some form.
Or the time itself not only in the "now" but in it's infinity and we exist in every moment of our life simultaneously...
The main idea of what I am saying that existing is suffering and it can't be escaped.
But it can be forgotten, and this is most likely what death is.
Sweet sweet obliviousness of experiences of living forever...
 
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Numbtopain97

Numbtopain97

deader than dead
Aug 10, 2019
443
hell is on earth
 
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KN95

Member
Apr 13, 2019
63
What if some of us are already there, or all of us? The happy people being the equivalent of an npc of a video game, with the purpose of their existence being one way to torture us (with their contentment with life).

Just another one of my many bizarre thoughts, haha
What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?
But, yeah. Although I am not a believer of any religion, the thought of there being a hell terrifies me.
 
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Abood95

Member
Jul 1, 2019
33
I got 50-60 years left in this isolation and misery, and I'm struggling to suicide. Yes, this is hell.
 
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Ratherbeskinny

Ratherbeskinny

"Insert profound quote here."
Oct 28, 2019
108
I'm already in Hell. If it turns out I go to a place where it's worse, I'll just kill myself again lol.
What if some of us are already there, or all of us? The happy people being the equivalent of an npc of a video game, with the purpose of their existence being one way to torture us (with their contentment with life).

Just another one of my many bizarre thoughts, haha

But, yeah. Although I am not a believer of any religion, the thought of there being a hell terrifies me.

Somebody call Black Mirror. I (or you actually) have a brilliant idea for a new episode. ;)
 
TearyEyedQueen

TearyEyedQueen

In the wrong timeline
Nov 14, 2019
366
Well it can't get much worse than this.
I'd be okay with Dante's version of hell. Just chilling as a thorny bush for all eternity.
 

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