What if

[Foreveradisgrace]

What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?

 

[Subhuman]

The way I see the world, life and death, hell is right here on earth. If, however, I were to wake up in hell I suppose there wouldn't be much I could do about it, so I'd just have to take it. For me personally life as it is is unsustainable and I can't go on. I don't believe that I'll end up in hell so I'm not worried about it in the slightest. But on the off chance that hell exists, it's a risk I have to take.

 

[DownFall]

I feel like I'm at hell already. Maybe I've already killed myself and I'm at hell right now or I'm someones character on a online game who hasn't been online for a long time. It's all what you want to believe. If hell is what you fear try looking at where you are right now. Is it hell for you? Could you improve your situation?

 

[Ermac]

Then I won't be able to do anything about it.

There are countless religions and beliefs of the afterlife and where we end up. Should we not deny those possibilities as well?

Life is already awful and so much hell happens day to day. If you feel a lot of this fear then perhaps there is something you wish to do to resolve that guilt? It's up to you to figure that out but don't let religious dogma control your decision.

 

[woxihuanni]

If there is anything out there to bring us even more misery after death, it will be there even if we wait to die. I just hope there isn't.

 

[Pupuce]

I can deny that considering it's as valid and proved as Cinderella, however if it exist you first would have to choose which one you are talking about, you can't just take all those who exist and say they are the same. But let's go with the punishing all evil-doers one. There is no objective morality, so there is no objective evil-doers. Hence who would hell punish? The only morality we know to exist is ours, and that makes the only possible place for something close to hell to be the surface of the earth right now.

 

[Fragile]

well, hell is full of cool people who also have committed suicide, so it can't be that bad.

the fact that there is an afterlife will actually bring me joy, knowing that this life was my only chance and how fucked it turned out to be is even worse than hell in my opinion.

 

[woxihuanni]

well, hell is full of cool people who also have committed suicide, so it can't be that bad.

the fact that there is an afterlife will actually bring me joy, knowing that this life was my only chance and how fucked it turned out to be is even worse than hell in my opinion.

If there is hell, I'm sure they've thought of making it solitary confinement. Honestly, if there is something out there who would want to hurt us more, they will be able to. Existence is fucking terrifying.

 

[Centerism]

I was just talking to someone about this yesterday. It seems that religious proliferation has hindered the way of thought in even the strongest of minds. Our(american) society is so littered with religious dogma it has become part of our "normal" regime. Our money says "in God we trust." Or president holds weekly prayer meetings, as well as a global annual prayer breakfast. We put churches on every corner and the government doesn't even charge them tax...

Wow.

I think this leads us to do exactly what you're doing. Questioning the very fabric of our morals and ideals. We tend to say, what if? What if we're wrong about good and evil? What if suicide is a "sin" and we end up in hell, or worse? Although our very senses tell us these things are wrong, that if there was a "god" why would he/she let us live the way we do? Why do we have to suffer so much? What did we do to deserve this kind of existence?

The answer in my opinion is this. We suffer because either we were hardwired differently than others, or we have suffered at the hands of others so vile that we've become hopeless. Either way shows me that there is no good and evil. There is simply a consistent gray area. We're no different from our kin of ages ago. They were barbarians, cruel, ruthless. They had a very skewed way of life in comparison to the way we view life today. But, were they bad, or evil? No. So why is today any different just because we've learned yo be more civilized, or as it's so crudely put, more "humane" implying that the standards in place by the"church" are the right ones to live up to, or follow.

It is not up to religion as a whole to judge us. We aren't any more guilty then we feel towards ourselves. We shouldn't be persecuted for our beliefs just as the church shouldn't. There is no God that holds our hands through the hard times yet chastises us for going through those same emotions.

If there is a hell, it's here on earth. With what we deal with everyday is enough to put most people's worst experiences to shame. And when we illiterate on the facts of our existence we get morally shamed for it. This is life. This is truth. This is reality. We live it everyday. Our experience here is hell.

Because of all that I'm not afraid of death. I don't fear a what if scenario. I know my death will be one of mercy. One of peace. I will live on after I die. Whether it be in a alternative realty, or on the minds and hearts of others. I will live on. And so will all of you. You will always be in my heart. And in my thoughts.

 

[262653]

What if everyone who will die NOT by suicide will end up in Hell? You know, possibilities and hidden variables. Considering that, we "may" end up on lower planes in any case.

 

[woxihuanni]

What if everyone who will die NOT by suicide will end up in Hell? You know, possibilities and hidden variables. Considering that, we "may" end up on lower planes in any case.

Ahah, would be hilarious. Tough luck, pro-life fuckers, enjoy the warmer climates!

 

[kypnrp]

That would suck, but there would be nothing I could have done about it. I'd eventually die anyway.

 

[pole]

What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?

just gonna casually stand up, and jump into the fire or ctb somehow again.

 

[ish]

Everyone has the right to live and die in the way they choose. He also has the right to "blindly believe" or use reason.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I'm in hell right now. Life can be hell for some people. I'm almost certain there is nothing after i die. I was dead for 13 billion years and i had no pain then. That's how it's going to be again : after Death there will be no pain, no problems , no fear, no worries etc. In life yes i have all those horrible things and more.

 

[SinisterKid]

What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?

After dying, I can categorically state that there is no heaven or hell, in any of the versions that are frequently thrown around by over zealous ijits who pretend they know about such things. So please do not concern yourself with such notions.

 

[MAIO]

What if...
Hell exists and you wake up there?
You cannot deny the possibility, since you do not know what awaits you.
I find it hard to find peace within myself, knowing that I ''might'' end up in Hell forever.
How do y'all feel about that? Especially the folks really contemplating suicide?

Which hell are you afraid to end up? There are a lot of different versions of hell of many different religions. There is the possibility you will be tortured forever, for being a Christian(by other religions hell), you will be tortured forever for believing in a God, etc there is just no good reason to think it's true. Furthermore, If a God sends those to be tortured forever on the sole basis that they were not gullible enough to believe he exists he doesn't deserve to be worship. He is an evil tyrant, that deserves to be opposed.

 

[bigj75]

I feel like I'm at hell already. Maybe I've already killed myself and I'm at hell right now or I'm someones character on a online game who hasn't been online for a long time. It's all what you want to believe. If hell is what you fear try looking at where you are right now. Is it hell for you? Could you improve your situation?

This. I literally feel like I'm in hell now.

 

[Wayfaerer]

I won't have to worry about that because I am intelligent enough to conclude that bronze-aged myths hold no weight.

 

[oopswronglife]

I feel like its as much a possibility as me waking up as a banana. Yes it could happen, but its so out there I don't worry much about it. It's pretty clear looking historically that people made up at least the current idea of hell, the fire and brimstone and eternal torture. That's based on Dante's Inferno and not the various religious books, even if you accept those as valid. That doesn't mean there isn't some other "punishment" concept possible, but it seems so petty and human like as an idea and it serves no purpose at all because suffering forever teaches no lessons or pays back even the worst possible Earthly crime.

 

[woxihuanni]

I feel like its as much a possibility as me waking up as a banana. Yes it could happen, but its so out there I don't worry much about it. It's pretty clear looking historically that people made up at least the current idea of hell, the fire and brimstone and eternal torture. That's based on Dante's Inferno and not the various religious books, even if you accept those as valid. That doesn't mean there isn't some other "punishment" concept possible, but it seems so petty and human like as an idea and it serves no purpose at all because suffering forever teaches no lessons or pays back even the worst possible Earthly crime.

To be honest, even if there were anything like hell, dying of natural causes is not going to change anything for anyone. Either suffering ends with death, or we all royally fucked whatever we do.

 

[Deltrus]

Here is my biggest arguement against hell.

Do you really feel like the universe is here just to see you suffer, with no point at all? Why would there be time if things aren't really changing going forward? Do you think that there is just some looping "video" of suffering, and you just happen to be that video?

I really think that the universe is building something, or being built into something, far beyond our imagination. Something that is unbelievably far metaphorically from the nastiness of fear and suffering.

The universe works like a perfect causal machine built from "why"s. Anything not connected falls off the machine into obliteration.

As a human, we can't always see the why, but we are part of the universe, and in order for the universe to be self consistent, contradictions in our views of reality will all have to eventually be sorted out. Anxiety and fear of hell is a feature of uncertainty, and eventually all uncertainty will be obliterated.

 

[ish]

Being(living) on earth for both Religion and Science
there is for suffering for future generations in hell(life).

 

[Darkhaven]

Then it will be just a continuation of everything i have been living.

 

[not from here]

I think we are actually in hell right now and life is like you know when you are in extreme pain and you go to into shock or like your happy place and the pain temporarily disappears? That is what life is...a self induced temporary rest bit from eternal damnation. That is why this world is so cruel and evil. We must fight for our temporary happiness and tromp on and control, and put down other people, animals, and other living things to acquire our temporary repreive at their expense. And it's not just humans, all living things do this. This is a malicious cruel world.

 

[not from here]

I think we are actually in hell right now and life is like you know when you are in extreme pain and you go to into shock or like your happy place and the pain temporarily disappears? That is what life is...a self induced temporary rest bit from eternal damnation. That is why this world is so cruel and evil. We must fight for our temporary happiness and tromp on and control, and put down other people, animals, and other living things to acquire our temporary repreive at their expense. And it's not just humans, all living things do this. This is a malicious cruel world.

*Edit...I should have said burning forever in the lake of fire not eternal damnation. And it's not so much that we are being punished but the eternal burning of our souls and forever pain produces some kind of benefit or pleasure to something else. Much as the way we treat other living things on this planet through our capture, use, control and ingestion of them.

 

[blanketyblk]

if there was a hell and i woke up in there. at least it would cement into my mind that god is a shitty parent and doesn't deserve to have us as children. anyone that makes people suffer forever can truly go get fucked..

 

[bigj75]

Idk. sometimes I think people want stuff to be chaotic regardless of god or not.

 

[woxihuanni]

*Edit...I should have said burning forever in the lake of fire not eternal damnation. And it's not so much that we are being punished but the eternal burning of our souls and forever pain produces some kind of benefit or pleasure to something else. Much as the way we treat other living things on this planet through our capture, use, control and ingestion of them.

I don't really know why it makes me so angry, but no, not the way 'we' treat other living things. There are major differences:

Even we hold animals captive in zoos (yes I do feel bad for them), we feed and take care of them. Humans, when they are captive in terrible situations, still have to have the energy and capability to take care of themselves. 99 per cent of the misery is the humiliation, fear and regret for not being able to take care of yourself. Animals do not have that thrust on them.

Yes, we eat animals. The actual act of killing them does not bother me one bit, I don't care about my own fucking death, I'm not crying because an animal bred to be food died. Dead animals are not suffering, they are fucking dead.

I am not some monster who is fine with making animals suffer, but also I cannot stand pretending it is the same thing as human suffering. Humans have more responsibility on them. Ducks do not off themselves because the only duck in the world to truly connect with them wants some other duck. We do. We are cursed with more needs.

 

[Astral316]

People who want to cause suffering should worry about Hell, not people who kill themselves to end suffering.