What if it gets worse after we die?

[thereisthemist]

for the ones who cared, including yourself, it does get worse.
that is literally how expectations work, they are expectations and their distance of reality, as long as the distance exists, the reality stays worse than expectations.
humans live on expectations, and die from them as well, all of the humans do these two things.
yet mist send you horrified soul a huggie here, hope that is out of your expectation

 

[locked*n*loaded]

How many times can we keep revisiting this same bad movie?

 

[Empyress]

im not sure why but i dont really worry about that like at all, for me i fully assume that once i die itll just be like when you go to sleep and dont dream, aka you feel nothing, your consciousness is just gone until ur awake except u dont awake ever again, i guess because im not religious or superstitious may be part of why, but also i have lost consciousness multiple times in past and i dont really see any good reason it should be any different, but even then i guess i just view death as kinda like mundane thing that only has huge meaning because humans decided to give it some huge meaning, when you think about it throughout history various species of animals have been dying over and over thru the generations for millions of years with no real meaning and their deaths forgotten and unimportant, i dont really view humans any different so i dont really feel that scared i guess?

 

[Darkover]

it could be a worse life than you have now or better life is just about luck your lucky or unlucky, the best you can hope for is nothing for all time
we come from the void and we return to the void whos to say it can't happen again

it's the reason why i advocate killing everything so there's no chance of ever returning here
i wouldent want to be any of these lower species on this planet and nor would i want to be most humans alive here

 

[Unending]

we come from the void and we return to the void whos to say it can't happen again

This is a good point. If we only live once, it is seriously odd to imagine how on the timeline of infinity our lives are just so much smaller than a metaphorical grain of sand and despite this, we are here now and feel like it is never going to end.

 

[swanlife]

I don't recommend checking out any NDE stories. I recommend reading neuroscientists, actual scientists not Christian ones, and what they have to say on the matter. Spoiler alert: nothing happens. Your brain is just a chemical and electrical machine run on oxygen and glucose and you will experience absolutely nothing once it shuts down.

There are some (non christian) neuroscientists who wrote books about NDE and believe in it.

 

[Sittichmutter]

We are here to evolve. Our problems are lessons. We are here to learn and to love, not to judge, suffer or hate.
We are not bodies with souls. We are souls with bodies. Let's embrace this life a do the best we can. Small acts of love, everyday, toward ourselves and others help a lot.

 

[lotus11]

There only one way to find out

 

[👁️👃👁️]

You legit nailed exactly how I feel and described it perfectly. And my god what a terrifying thought to be fully conscious in some dark void with no escape for eternity. Also that honestly would be my fuckin luck. Since I'm such a damn failure watch me fail at death and fuck up so my conscious is fully there

I've thought about this. Being conscious and fully aware. Still having the same desires that we had when we were human but not having a carbon body to express those desires through. That would suck.

 

[godhelpme313]

Ramana Maharshi famously said "your head is trapped in the Tiger's mouth" (consciousness). If you consider that in your birth you were "thrown into this world" (Heidegger), and time is an infinite regress (Hume), there is a compelling argument that you are eternal. You may come back to life and live the exact same life form from its beginning again, a sort of eternal reoccurrence (Nietzsche). Your eternal form may show up in another lifeform, dimension or reality. I think the idea of eternal damnation is probably mankind's more trivial and juvenile concept. But the idea of the Tiger's Mouth or eternal reoccurrence has serious consideration. All my study of decades in philosophy suggested to me that there is a good (almost inevitable) conclusion that existence is eternal. Many times when I am close to dying it is the realization that not even death will stop my pain that has me reconsider and start focusing on fixing things in life. Of course death is the true complete unknown so it's best seen as a complete unopinionated mystery but if one were to ask the question than the eternal nature of man cannot be disputed. And when you really think about it, having an eternal nature but a finite life is a pretty dang good balance in my book. I always thought people who worry about permanent death have not worried enough about permanent reoccurrence which is a far more anxiety provoking idea. It seems I'm the grand scheme of things there is a perfect paradoxical balance between our finite lives (body) and eternal nature (soul). Any thinker who tries to discredit our eternal component has insurmountable paradoxes they cannot answer. Hell to me seems to occur in life and is the suicidal desire itself -- that's the definition of personal annihilation or wished nonexistence. I am in a better state today (decided to take time away from my gun suicide planning) and what I'm speaking here is my honest opinion and while I'm not necessarily going to engage in a debate I am confident my ideas outlined here are the most intuitive. It seems ultimately that we are designed by higher constitutive forces to live the lives we are designed to live and breath the breathes the body is designed to breath. Death is part of that plan, but here too even nature has prepared us, for even wild animals have a death evolution whereby prey submits themselves to their predator and submits their spirit to them before dying. At least for me death is the highest informing factor of how to live this life, but should not be feared (and probably not "avoided" as silly as that sounds or pursued) and discovering more of my eternal life is my spirituality which is the Will to Live (Schopenhauer). The best thing to do to relieve an uneasy mind about all this is to let the organizing principles operate which means flowing with life and embracing physical death in a sort of Taoist harmony. Nothing is more scary to me than my suicidal pain which is why I believe death probably will not cure it. The physicalists and reductionists who believe in permanent death are avoiding too many obvious logical errors with their position and the nihilists or those who believe in no meaning of the universe have an unreasonable absurd rational progression that something that has no purpose exists in the first place. These ideas seem to lead one to hell, which discussed earlier is really a state of the living, and should probably be discarded in favor of a more intuitive personal cosmology. The readings of Chuang Tsu may bring you comfort.

 

[ryo the frog]

"well shit."

 

[SeenMoreThanEnough]

To be honest I hate life so much but extremely scared somehow I'll still be conscious or there will be some place where I'll still suffer after I die. Maybe like a hell or maybe ill have some type of punishment since I killed myself. Only reason I say this is because life on earth was so cruel and unfair whos to say death wil even be peace? Weather it's god or just the way it is I'm scared afterlife could be just as bad or worse maybe reincarnation.

And I know a lot of us believe when we die is just all over but still nobody actually knows . I'm fucking terrified

Have you ever thought about pre-destiny? In which, no matter how you die, no matter what happens -- it's not your fault? Whatever happened to you, it just..was?

 

[MideonNViscera]

I suppose I will recognise the humor in it, then suffer a bunch more.

 

[Rainy_days]

This scares me a lot as well. I guess no matter what, I will find out eventually what happens.