What do you think of people who say that depression and suicidal thoughts are a lack of things to do?

[danzk]

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[Beyond_Repair]

I have plenty of things to do but I'm too depressed to do them

 

[SMmetalhead36]

What happens when you do all the things that need to be done including seeking out new things?

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

I've tried to do things but I literally can't because no matter how hard I force myself eventually I think "there's no point forcing myself to do this when I'm gonna die soon" and I just quit, like a cycle

 

[Forever Sleep]

Sounds like cookie cutter thinking to me. Plenty of us have jobs, responsibilities. We may even be trying to live a semblance of a life with exercising, hobbies, self care. All that shit. That doesn't 'cure' how we think. It makes it much harder to do all that stuff when your heart isn't in it but for some of us, the alternative is even worse!

So- no- I don't believe that. For some people, sure. But realistically- will those people actually benefit that much from doing things? If their heart isn't in it either? Many of us are just going through the motions like zombies. It's weird the way that- if people see you are functioning- they think you are ok.

When I had that welfare check regarding the SN, the police were relieved because I was busy working. Like- busy people don't kill themselves! I remember in 'The Bridge' film/ documentary, people were surprised that one of the people who jumped (I believe it was Gene Sprague) had been applying for jobs. Again, I just think it's so weird the way they view it. Many people live with ideation for years- even decades before commiting to it. What do they think we get up to in that time?!!

Not everyone can afford to be NEET. Not everyone qualifies for benefits. I just think even the people who must work with suicidal people a lot have such tunnel vision with how someone like that must behave.

Still, it kind of benefits us in a way- if we don't want people interfering with our plans. Seems like people will go on face value and if you look like you're functioning, they'll assume you are. Of course- the reverse is true as well. People even on here being refused treatment and help because they seem too 'well'. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

 

[13ReasonsWhy]

I have the exact opposite reason of that. I am depressed and I have way too many things to do. There are a lot of other complication which mainly include other people being a fucking nightmare to be around. For me I just have a lot of stress from all the work that I have to do.

 

[UKscotty]

Not true at all. The depression makes it so we can't do anything.

There is plenty to do in the world but our illness won't allow us. It's not the boredom that causes depression, it's the depression that leads to boredom.

Depression makes us suicidal, tired, lose focus and then it makes us think we are not ill.

 

[13ReasonsWhy]

Not true at all. The depression makes it so we can't do anything.

There is plenty to do in the world but our illness won't allow us. It's not the boredom that causes depression, it's the depression that leads to boredom.

Depression makes us suicidal, tired, lose focus and then it makes us think we are not ill.

What's worse is when your forced to do the things that you physically can't deal with. I perosnally have been depressed since I was 12 (I'm 18 now), and going to school is the worst thing of my life. I am being forced to go to a fucking hell hole every monday-friday dealing with people I don't want to see. I still have a toxic ex that make my life even worse than it already is. I have gone past the point that I can bare. I'm hoping to CTB soon if my survival instincts don't kick in again.

 

[lostinwoe]

I think I'm the odd one out here but I'm depressed off the fact that there isn't anything to do I hate ADHD so much it's a curse

 

[sisyphean-nightmare]

Depression is a natural reaction to something in your life being wrong and can be caused by many things, among those a lack of things to do. But let's face it, the modern human rarely has lack of things to do, quite the opposite. It says something about the current climate when people really think that depression would be solved by doing more stuff.

 

[ForgottenAgain]

Not long ago I had a chat with my father about this topic and he told a story about his grandmother. Turns out his grandmother was depressed, she would cry every day, lacked motivation to do things. This was during a time where someone with mental illness would just be called crazy or lazy, especially in the countryside.

His grandfather would beat the grandmother and say: "stop that and go wash the dishes! If you took care of the garden you wouldn't have time to cry!"
She did all the house chores (she never went to school, she was a house wife) and my grandma would see her cry while doing the chores and would ask her father to not hit her mother.

This story made me understand why my grandmother was so understanding with me when I told her years ago I was depressed.

I don't think it's a lack of things to do that makes one depressed, truly. Having things to do is nothing but a distraction from our suffering. I work full time and still cry while working, cry while cleaning the house or cooking. I think if you're midly depressed maybe things to do help but for anyone with severe depression or severe mental problems, that just doesn't cut it.

 

[Vicolo cieco]

In my case doing things makes me depressed.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I would have a lot of things I would like to do if I wasn't screwed. This is just BS talk if someone told me to "do things" I reply to them give me the money and enable me to the things I like to do and I'm not suicidal. Usually then there's either silence or they just tell be to work some BS job - no thanks - that' won't solve my problem.

 

[Username1359751]

Good for them for not being depressed and suicidal? I know they say that back in the day they were too occupied with work and chores from sun up to sun down, but the elements of time and exposure as well as priorities has grown and changed. It's a totally different magnified life post-millenium. I think that's a cop out based on all the factors contributing to suicides today and around the world.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I don't think it's true in all cases. I'm depressed (at least by definition) because I'm forced into an existence against my will which I never enjoyed from day 1. If I was able to go through life without suffering, I wouldn't be depressed. However, I'm depressed because life is suffering

 

[FuneralCry]

In my case I wish to die as I simply don't want to do anything, I don't see value in being burdened with something so futile and undesirable as existence, instead I just wish to be unaware for all eternity. There's no point to existence anyway, non-existence is always better to me than pointless, meaningless suffering, the thought of being trapped here until old age is horrifying to me, I see existence itself as the true problem and more than anything I wish I never existed at all.

 

[jbear824]

Simple. I think those people are idiots and not worthy of being listened to.