Discussion What do you think happens when we die?

[kitchenwindow197]

That was what stumped me, where did everything come from in the first place bruh, so i thought of a number line and that everything should come from number 0 and expand into other numbers, probably a ton of dimensions there and create everything, but it still doesn't explain where it came from. Kind of an annoying thing to think about

Yeah i really cant even comprehend it, the more i think about it, the more confused i get. God created time but isnt bound by it- it just makes my head spin, how can we exist without a creator- how was God created, how do you make something out of nothing? I think its just beyond anyone's comprehension and no living human will ever truly understand but I like to read about everyone elses theory's- maybe "its" a bit of everything. I just find it all crazy, we are perfectly (physically) designed to exist.. what are the odds of that, surely there has to be someone up there. One thing is for sure though I would rather believe in someone that doesnt exist than spend eternity in hell

 

[headphones]

I used to think this aswell, so there is no point to any of this? Why do we exist if we simply are gone after we die, how did we get here?

Life is a roll of the dice. A collection of cells and electrical signals that evolved the capability to try and understand itself in the context of its environment.

In terms of purpose? If there are people in your life, I guess that the argument could be made that the purpose, your purpose, lives on in those that live, and then those that live after them.

Really, in the context of our understanding of the universe, we are all nothing, not even a blink of the eye.

It's incredibly humbling, and can be terrifying, to think of the bigger picture and the scale of things. I don't think most people realise or comprehend how big or old or incomprehensible things are outside of their own world and perspective.

 

[kitchenwindow197]

Life is a roll of the dice. A collection of cells and electrical signals that evolved the capability to try and understand itself in the context of its environment.

In terms of purpose? If there are people in your life, I guess that the argument could be made that the purpose, your purpose, lives on in those that live, and then those that live after them.

Really, in the context of our understanding of the universe, we are all nothing, not even a blink of the eye.

It's incredibly humbling, and can be terrifying, to think of the bigger picture and the scale of things. I don't think most people realise or comprehend how big or old or incomprehensible things are outside of their own world and perspective.

We are just so complex i find it incredibly hard to believe we just started to exist here without a creator. Why were we given morals if we simply die like any other animal?

 

[ctb2soble]

Can i ask how you know that souls are stuck on earth? This is so interesting to me.
There are so many recorded NDE of "hell" but there are even more documenting a place like heaven.
Common "hell like" NDE include descriptions of human-like beings, being tormented by demonic creatures- and a feeling like dying without ever dying.
On the flip side people with good NDE seem to always talk about a bright light that engulfs them and takes them to a place with the purest form of love and peace imaginable.
I do believe NDE mostly support the christian theology as opposed to other religions, but who really knows.

When my ex boyfriend died, his roommate reported and took videos of him turning on the lights in the kitchen and his room at the same time he would normally do so everyday for three months. Then, it suddenly stopped. So I'm pretty sure he stuck around Earth for a bit. And probably because he didn't believe he was dead since he was able to still think and do things. He was a staunch atheist, materialist when he died, who only believed in non existence after death.

I don't think NDEs are a good indication of what the afterlife is actually like. It's like walking into a hotel lobby and saying that the stay was good or bad despite never spending one single night in the hotel. NDEs are glimpses of what's possible in the afterlife, but I don't think they tell the whole story.

 

[kitchenwindow197]

When my ex boyfriend died, his roommate reported and took videos of him turning on the lights in the kitchen and his room at the same time he would normally do so everyday for three months. Then, it suddenly stopped. So I'm pretty sure he stuck around Earth for a bit. And probably because he didn't believe he was dead since he was able to still think and do things. He was a staunch atheist, materialist when he died, who only believed in non existence after death.

I don't think NDEs are a good indication of what the afterlife is actually like. It's like walking into a hotel lobby and saying that the stay was good or bad despite never spending one single night in the hotel. NDEs are glimpses of what's possible in the afterlife, but I don't think they tell the whole story.

Thats really interesting, thank you for sharing! So you believe he was stuck here because he didnt truly process his death?

Ive read some things that suggest people who kill themselves get stuck in some kind of limbo- not sure if this is the same as being stuck on earth after you die but its interesting none the less.

I agree with you about the NDE's but i find it interesting that so many people recall similar storys- but i also believe it could just be your subconscious creating things that you think will happen.

 

[ctb2soble]

Thats really interesting, thank you for sharing! So you believe he was stuck here because he didnt truly process his death?

Ive read some things that suggest people who kill themselves get stuck in some kind of limbo- not sure if this is the same as being stuck on earth after you die but its interesting none the less.

I agree with you about the NDE's but i find it interesting that so many people recall similar storys- but i also believe it could just be your subconscious creating things that you think will happen.

Yeah I think he didn't process he was dead first, and second he was busy probably enjoying the freedom of roaming the Earth once he did die. He came to see me at one point and I live about 3,000 miles from where he was living when he died. So it's not like he was stuck in one place the whole time either.

I don't think anyone gets stuck anywhere they don't want to be. But from what I've read, there is alot more freedom in what we consider the afterlife. So if someone is overcome with despair upon ctbing, then they probably won't move on til they can move through that grief and move on to whatever is next. But I don't think anyone is stuck in that state if they don't want to be.

I dunno, I look at death as an adventure that I am actually excited to embark on. I haven't wanted to live on Earth since I was a kid and before I even knew what suicide was.

 

[Richard Langford]

Hmmm. I've had these experiences. I couod say they

I definitely get that, theres things that simply cant be just by chance... I could write many paragraphs about this.

And people on here have said the same. Extremely bizarre occurrences that you could say were chance but that chance and the circumstances would be literally astronomical odds. We might not comprehend or understand it but there does seem something going on.

 

[kitchenwindow197]

Yeah I think he didn't process he was dead first, and second he was busy probably enjoying the freedom of roaming the Earth once he did die. He came to see me at one point and I live about 3,000 miles from where he was living when he died. So it's not like he was stuck in one place the whole time either.

I don't think anyone gets stuck anywhere they don't want to be. But from what I've read, there is alot more freedom in what we consider the afterlife. So if someone is overcome with despair upon ctbing, then they probably won't move on til they can move through that grief and move on to whatever is next. But I don't think anyone is stuck in that state if they don't want to be.

I dunno, I look at death as an adventure that I am actually excited to embark on. I haven't wanted to live on Earth since I was a kid and before I even knew what suicide was.

I definitely understand being excited, i am too mostly. Im excited to finally leave, but i just keep having a nagging thought at the back of my head that im going to end up in some sort of eternal hell thats worse than life here- or reincarnation ends up being real and im born into a situation thats 100x worse.. I will just have to have faith that wherever we all end up will simply be pure peace. Ive been planning everything for ctb for months now, i have a clear head about it and am at peace with my decision- hopefully move through fairly quickly

Hmmm. I've had these experiences. I couod say they

And people on here have said the same. Extremely bizarre occurrences that you could say were chance but that chance and the circumstances would be literally astronomical odds. We might not comprehend or understand it but there does seem something going on.

I just pray were all shown kindness when it comes to the afterlife. I find comfort knowing that there will be others, that died the same way, wherever we end up.

 

[heyismeman]

I have no idea but one thing is for sure, I was never dead. In some shape way or form I know intrinsically that I've always been, which kinda sucks cause I hoped for nothing nothing.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

i've gotten the privilege to say this to a few people before their self exit:

you are solving the biggest mystery of our entire species. no matter what personal beliefs you may hold, it's special and profound.

and I still think this.

 

[L'absent]

After death, there will be nothing—not because there is an "after." The brain stops working, the flesh rots, the blood stops flowing. The process is simple, chemical, mechanical: an organic machine shuts down and decomposes. No trace of us remains, no residue of consciousness. And yet, calling it an "end" would already be assigning a meaning that never existed in the first place. Life doesn't end because it never began with a purpose.
We are nothing more than the accumulation of biochemical reactions, a mistake repeated billions of times, a tangle of cells replicating aimlessly and uncontrollably, producing among their byproducts the most useless and harmful thing ever created: consciousness. Thought is not a gift; it's a manufacturing defect. An aberration that condemns us to an endless cycle of pain, hunger, fear, survival, and decay.
Every cell in our body deteriorates and reproduces with the sole purpose of prolonging its own meaningless existence until its cycle ends and the body is dismantled piece by piece, digested by bacteria, reduced to sludge and gas. The nervous system is a network of pure suffering, a mass of electrified flesh that does nothing but register pain, accumulate it, repeat it, amplify it. Everything we perceive is nothing more than the result of continuous deterioration.
And while we are here, trapped in these decaying bodies, we desperately try to assign value to something that has none. We create words like "purpose," "meaning," "importance," as if they were something real. But they are just noises emitted by a lump of flesh to drown out the silence of its impending decomposition.
Life is just this: a sequence of biological spasms that repeat until total collapse. Every breath is just an automatic contraction before the final shutdown. There is nothing to understand, nothing to discover, nothing to wait for. Just a machine of flesh wearing itself down until it stops.
And that's how it ends. Not because there is an ending, but because nothing was ever more than this.

 

[InTheStars]

I've watched tons of NDE's, most interesting ones are with blind persons. How can they possibly "see" and describe things around them while they were dead? Those people never saw anything with their eyes while they were alive.

 

[Missing_You_All]

Technological Revivalism - If humanity survives and keeps this idea alive, at some point we would have the technology to bring everyone back. At that point, they should have the knowledge to properly rehabilitate all criminals and the wisdom to properly punish the worst of actions. Their medicine should be able to cure all illness, physical and mental. Humanity by this point can truly make up for their sins against nature, rebuilding the things we've destroyed and taking care of the planet and perhaps our galaxy and beyond.

Humanity has been lied to for so long, told that they will see their loved ones in heaven once again. This can only happen if humanity itself builds "heaven".

I don't think it'll be a utopia, but we won't be able to tell until we've lived around and integrated into that society.

I also don't think all people would exactly choose to be human by then either, thus angels and such running around.

 

[ThatRussianDude]

Same thing when you switch off your smartphone or its battery dies. You simply switch off.

 

[manicstreetbeeper]

i don't care. as long as it's the opposite of this.

 

[Thomas599]

Nothingness.