Venting What do pro lifers even want?

[Severen]

It's true; we are government property and treated as such. We are of no value dead, and while we suffer, we are still kept alive because the system needs its slaves, no matter the cost.

It's a disgusting reality.

It's absurd for the government to treat us as property though because the majority of us are so broken, mentally and or physically to continue being very productive wage slaves, anyway. Why do they want so many broken wage slaves? And on top of that, most of us are 100% convinced we want out of this world. It would be more logical to leave us the fuck alone and let us CTB so more resources can be allocated to wage slaves who are a lot more productive and buy into their BS. It's one thing to try to save the life of a emo teen trying to kill herself or kill himself because a boyfriend or girlfriend dumped them but it's another thing to try to save the life of an adult who has decided that life is not worth living after years and years of deep contemplation... And it's not like, there will ever be a shortage of people being born...

 

[sage]

i can understand it when its coming from my friends or family trying to talk me out of it or protect me, because i know they see potential in my life, however misguided that belief is. plus, it's not easy to let go of someone you love.
however, people who respond to complete strangers with the same copy-pasted inspirational speech instead of showing any genuine empathy for them.. they sicken me. i wish they'd understand that they're only making things worse. the "it's not worth it", "suicide is selfish", ect ect bullshit is what's prevented me from seeking any sort of help and effectively doomed me to eventually ctb. these people think they're saving us, but they're doing the exact opposite. i'm ranting, but man, it really pisses me off.

 

[Conflicted Cat]

They want us to suffer.

 

[First loss]

Trying to get into heaven.
The same people who act horrified and call you selfish when you say you prefer to stay single and childless. As if marriage and families are some kind of cult that just has to assimilate everyone, hence all the blamey moral judgments.
They have the same response to childlessness and singlehood and suicide: YOU CAN'T! you just can't!"

Yeah. This is relatable.

When I told my friend about my plans to kill myself she kept repeating: "No, you won't do that" over and over. She has been very supportive, though.

 

[not_a_robot]

It's absurd for the government to treat us as property though because the majority of us are so broken, mentally and or physically to continue being very productive wage slaves, anyway. Why do they want so many broken wage slaves? And on top of that, most of us are 100% convinced we want out of this world. It would be more logical to leave us the fuck alone and let us CTB so more resources can be allocated to wage slaves who are a lot more productive and buy into their BS. It's one thing to try to save the life of a emo teen trying to kill herself or kill himself because a boyfriend or girlfriend dumped them but it's another thing to try to save the life of an adult who has decided that life is not worth living after years and years of deep contemplation... And it's not like, there will ever be a shortage of people being born...

even broken you will be a source of revenue to the care and pharmaceutical system. in many ways.

 

[Severen]

even broken you will be a source of revenue to the care and pharmaceutical system. in many ways.

True. I have definitely have no choice but to be a life long customer of their pills if I don't CTB.

 

[Meretlein]

Here is a prolifer defending suicide prevention
https://www.speakingofsuicide.com/2018/02/28/in-defense-of-suicide-prevention/

One thing that catches my eye is "the whole of humanity suffers when someone opts out". It kind of confirms how a huge part of suicide prevention is for the good of society and not the individual. A dead person doesn't feel deprived of life or pleasure, but the remaining people feel deprived.

 

[Rukia]

I also think it is selfish...but on the other hand when someone here says he is about to CTB I have an urge to try to stop him...Maybe I am selfish too...But it is sad...Dont you think so? Or you dont have any emotion reading that someone is about to CTB...?

 

[Johnnythefox]

An interesting article on instinct,
QUOTE :
The brain, then, seems wired up to respond to others' suffering—indeed, it makes us feel good when we can alleviate that suffering. But do other parts of the body also suggest a biological basis for compassion?
UC Berkley

 

[Severen]

Here is a prolifer defending suicide prevention
https://www.speakingofsuicide.com/2018/02/28/in-defense-of-suicide-prevention/

One thing that catches my eye is "the whole of humanity suffers when someone opts out". It kind of confirms how a huge part of suicide prevention is for the good of society and not the individual. A dead person doesn't feel deprived of life or pleasure, but the remaining people feel deprived.

WTF. Every time someone dies... Humanity BENEFITS! It means more resources for everyone else... It means more power for the proletariat class. It means, climate change slowing down. FOOLS...

 

[Alan James]

We are all slaves, state property, resource. This is the main reason. Pro lifers are just brainwashed retards, the sociopaths who control this world system are in charge. But there is hope for automation and robotization in the future - a significant part of the population will no longer be needed for anything, will become a burden and this is the real reason for which gradually, very slowly legalized euthanasia in various countries.

 

[Severen]

We are all slaves, state property, resource. This is the main reason. Pro lifers are just brainwashed retards, the sociopaths who control this world system are in charge. But there is hope for automation and robotization in the future - a significant part of the population will no longer be needed for anything, will become a burden and this is the real reason for which gradually, very slowly legalized euthanasia in various countries.

Yeah, once the robots are good enough to do most tasks, you'll be able to buy N over the counter in every store... And pro lifers will be seen as freaks. LMAO!

 

[Alan James]

WTF. Every time someone dies... Humanity BENEFITS! It means more resources for everyone else... It means more power for the proletariat class. It means, climate change slowing down. FOOLS...

It's not just about money. Money is a tool. This is part of the control system, part of the program. They cann't give slaves the freedom to dispose of their own lives and bodies, then slaves will feel the taste of freedom, the fear of death and pain is a main control method - what happens if they remove it? This is very dangerous for this system.

And pro lifers will be seen as freaks.

Who they really are . I hate these selfish hypocritical bastards, seems I have seen too many of them in my life. One of the reasons why I want to die is that the modern society is disgusting to me, I don't want to live in it at all, the society in its present form is not civilized.

 

[Severen]

It's not just about money. Money is a tool. This is part of the control system, part of the program. They cann't give slaves the freedom to dispose of their own lives and bodies, then slaves will feel the taste of freedom, the fear of death and pain is a main control method - what happens if they remove it? This is very dangerous for this system.


Who they really are . I hate these selfish hypocritical bastards, seems I have seen too many of them in my life. One of the reasons why I want to die is that the modern society is disgusting to me, I don't want to live in it at all, the society in its present form is not civilized.

Yeah, if all my mental and physical health problems went away, I inherited a billion dollars and found a way to reverse the aging process and became like an immortal vampire demigod, I'd probably still CTB. But only after converting all my money into cash and then lighting it on fire in front of everyone just to show everyone, their "civilization" is nothing but garbage to me. That their god called money is nothing but a false god. OR maybe I'd just build the biggest statue in human history that is basically a giant middle finger. OR maybe the biggest Satanic statue in human history to troll all the Christians. Something so massive, you can see it from every point on Earth with your own eyes. Maybe I would become "the antichrist" just to troll billions of religious people.

 

[Meretlein]

WTF. Every time someone dies... Humanity BENEFITS! It means more resources for everyone else... It means more power for the proletariat class. It means, climate change slowing down. FOOLS...

Dead people aren't productive tax payers. Also the family members are usually devastated.

 

[Severen]

Also the family members are usually devastated.

Boohoohoo. Then maybe they should have done their jobs, properly. Their pain and suffering is karma.

 

[Rukia]

Boohoohoo. Then maybe they should have done their jobs, properly. Their pain and suffering is karma.

I feel you are unfair...some ppl may be to blame like parents but there are also innocent ones like cousins, siblings so on...
Also if you are chronically ill who is to blame?

 

[Severen]

I feel you are unfair...some ppl may be to blame like parents but there are also innocent ones like cousins, siblings so on...
Also if you are chronically ill who is to blame?

Well they should get used to people dying anyway because death comes for everyone. And if you live long enough, you are going to see almost everyone you know, die from natural causes(if you are lucky).

 

[Meretlein]

Boohoohoo. Then maybe they should have done their jobs, properly. Their pain and suffering is karma.

I wouldn't say it's karma but they are selfish in wanting someone to suffer for them. Also their selfish feelings serve as a justification for suicide prevention.

 

[Severen]

I wouldn't say it's karma but they are selfish in wanting someone to suffer for them. Also their selfish feelings serve as a justification for suicide prevention.

Yeah but these people think it's okay for them to be selfish but nobody else can be selfish and CTB... Fuck them. I have to walk around like Jesus with a crown of thorns on my head for 50 to 60 to 70 to 80 years just so they don't have to feel sad? LOL And you know what? They don't even have to deal with the loss of a loved one for very long because they can CTB as well. So really, who are people who are being unreasonable?

 

[WinterIsComing]

They want to feel like super heroes or don't feel blame... they think only in themselfs

 

[Severen]

They want to feel like super heroes or don't feel blame... they think only in themselfs

Yeah but they are too apathetic to actually go through with it 100% otherwise they would put an end to crime, homelessness, starvation, inequality, child abuse etc... So they rather just pick on a website because it's an easy target.

 

[Meretlein]

Yeah but these people think it's okay for them to be selfish but nobody else can be selfish and CTB... Fuck them. I have to walk around like Jesus with a crown of thorns on my head for 50 to 60 to 70 to 80 years just so they don't have to feel sad? LOL And you know what? They don't even have to deal with the loss of a loved one for very long because they can CTB as well. So really, who are people who are being unreasonable?

There's more diplomatic ways to put that but I agree.

 

[sadgirl2002]

I agree, they're fucking selfish to the core. They just want to make them feel better about themselves heck, I don't know who even first made the statement that suicide is wrong. Pro-lifers need to fucking mind their business and not poke their nose in matters that don't concern them. These man-made statements are really illogical and pointless. We are all going to die anyway, the obvious fact.

 

[Severen]

I agree, they're fucking selfish to the core. They just want to make them feel better about themselves heck, I don't know who even first made the statement that suicide is wrong. Pro-lifers need to fucking mind their business and not poke their nose in matters that don't concern them. These man-made statements are really illogical and pointless. We are all going to die anyway, the obvious fact.

Yeah, if they don't like people CTBing, then they should actually seek the root causes and put an end to it or CTB themselves or STFU about it... If all these pro life people, got together and actually made the world a better place, there would be a lot less people committing suicide.

 

[Alan James]

They don't even have to deal with the loss of a loved one for very long because they can CTB as well. So really, who are people who are being unreasonable?

I would like to die at the same time with my mother after drinking N together. It would be reasonable and not scary at all, It would be so easy. But despite the fact that my mother hates her life (as much as I probably) and drinks alcohol every day, she does not even want to hear about CTB. What is wrong with all these people?

 

[Severen]

I would like to die at the same time with my mother after drinking N together. It would be reasonable and not scary at all, It would be so easy. But despite the fact that my mother hates her life (as much as I probably) and drinks alcohol every day, she does not even want to hear about CTB. What is wrong with all these people?

Brainwashed since birth to be extremely fearful of death even though it's something 100% natural and simply a transition from one level of existence to another. Most cultures in the past, didn't even see death as anything bad... This nonsense started when Christianity was spawned... No wonder, people like Nero hated them. When these Christian cultists started existing, the Romans thought they were literally so insane, they ignored them. They were the fucking freaks...

 

[LastFlowers]

Brainwashed since birth to be extremely fearful of death even though it's something 100% natural and simply a transition from one level of existence to another. Most cultures in the past, didn't even see death as anything bad... This nonsense started when Christianity was spawned... No wonder, people like Nero hated them. When these Christian cultists started existing, the Romans thought they were literally insane. They were the fucking freaks...

I wonder if I would have been brainwashed as well, had I not suffered enough to reach this stage of awareness and acceptance of one's right to die.
Kind of a scary thought.
Though I must say, not as scary as the torment and regret I experience every waking second.

 

[Severen]

I wonder if I would have been brainwashed as well, had I not suffered enough to reach this stage of awareness and acceptance of one's right to die.
Kind of a scary thought.
Though I must say, not as scary as the torment and regret I experience every waking second.

I would say, we all grow up to be like that unless life teaches us some painful lessons.

 

[LastFlowers]

I would say, we all grow up to be like that unless life teaches us some painful lessons.

Indeed.
I suppose one would have to be rare bird to end up otherwise, without the first hand experience.