What do people think about suicide in your country?

[WornOutLife]

As regards Argentina, people who ctb are:

-Cowards who can't endure life.
-Individuals who need mental health support and will probably spend some time in a psych ward.
-People who think life is bad when things can actually be very good.
-Mentally ill people that you should keep away from your life because according to them, "suicide is contagious". Nobody wants to befriend a suicidal person here.
-Persons who were raised in a wrong way. It's all YOUR PARENTS FAULT.
-Individuals who will try to ctb again because they will probably never recover. (I think this is totally true for many us)

And that's basically the way suicide and suicidal people are seen and treated in Argentina.

What about your country? Is suicide a taboo just like everywhere else? What do "normal" people think about the persons who ctb?

 

[LenkaX]

It's the same everywhere I think.

 

[737492]

I guess we've been recently getting better in terms of spreading mental health awareness. Lately I've seen lots of campaigns for it.
But we have quite a large catholic population and lots of people have the belief that suicide is a sin, selfish etc and can be cured with prayer.
Grandparents tried curing my mental illness by taking me to church at 12-13...

 

[Trisolaris]

As regards Argentina, people who ctb are:

-Cowards who can't endure life.
-Individuals who need mental health support and will probably spend some time in a psych ward.
-People who think life is bad when things can actually be very good.
-Mentally ill people that you should keep away from your life because according to them, "suicide is contagious". Nobody wants to befriend a suicidal person here.
-Persons who were raised in a wrong way. It's all YOUR PARENTS FAULT.
-Individuals who will try to ctb again because they will probably never recover. (I think this is totally true for many us)

And that's basically the way suicide and suicidal people are seen and treated in Argentina.

What about your country? Is suicide a taboo just like everywhere else? What do "normal" people think about the persons who ctb?

Pretty much the same here.

 

[WornOutLife]

I guess we've been recently getting better in terms of spreading mental health awareness. Lately I've seen lots of campaigns for it.
But we have quite a large catholic population and lots of people have the belief that suicide is a sin, selfish etc and can be cured with prayer.
Grandparents tried curing my mental illness by taking me to church at 12-13...

Oh I SO understand what you mean.
My mother is extremely religious and she told me Jesus was the one who saved me after my failed attempt and will heal my mind soon lol.

I forgot to mention the fact that "religion" is kinda related to suicide because religious people think that those who ctb are probably not "believers".

 

[luten]

well, first and foremost; I live in a country where I must obey the law, wether I agree with the law or not. Just like on SS, there are rules, if you dont follow them, then you are banned. I have to respect my countries regulations, and therefore I cannot parttake in many of the threads on SS. Secondly, I think everyone feels different, some simply dont care if you take your own life. My psychiatrist view is that it is your own responsibility. We had three suicide attempts, and two suicides in the family. If you ask me , what do I think about it? I honestly dont have an opinion, I dont know how they felt about their lives, I cant judge them. Some people try to commit suicide in revenge, which I do not agree with.

 

[TotallyIsolated]

Brits are bigoted, hateful morons and I hate this country.

Before I quit Facebook my Dad shared a story with me about the chaplains at beachy head talking people out of suicide and it made me so angry. Its just some old gimmers with no knowledge or training re: mental health who bring you a cup of tea and then try to guilt you into living for everyone else's sake.

If you *do* go to beachy head, at least call the Samaritans where you have a *chance* of speaking to someone who understands mental health.

 

[Odwin]

Brits are bigoted, hateful morons and I hate this country.

Before I quit Facebook my Dad shared a story with me about the chaplains at beachy head talking people out of suicide and it made me so angry. Its just some old gimmers with no knowledge or training re: mental health who bring you a cup of tea and then try to guilt you into living for everyone else's sake.

If you *do* go to beachy head, at least call the Samaritans where you have a *chance* of speaking to someone who understands mental health.

It's not a bad thing to talk someone out of suicide. You can't expect either that everyone knows what someone goes through their mind.

Usually untrained people know only the guilt trip route.

 

[Mentalmick]

Before I quit Facebook my Dad shared a story with me about the chaplains at beachy head talking people out of suicide and it made me so angry.

Stupid old farts.

 

[Celerity]

The same here. Getting really annoyed with the "You Matter" signs and stickers I see around. Yeah, I matter to me. That's why I'm going to CTB, you clueless fucks.

 

[TotallyIsolated]

It's not a bad thing to talk someone out of suicide. You can't expect either that everyone knows what someone goes through their mind.

Usually untrained people know only the guilt trip route.

Its well known by mental health professionals that this technique, if you can call it that, just makes it worse and makes that person more likely to commit suicide. If the council or local government *actually* cared about suicidal people they'd stop these self-serving arseholes from acting out their own personal saviour fantasies so those people who are on the brink of life and death can get some ACTUAL help.

 

[Odwin]

Its well known by mental health professionals that this technique, if you can call it that, just makes it worse and makes that person more likely to commit suicide. If the council or local government *actually* cared about suicidal people they'd stop these self-serving arseholes from acting out their own personal saviour fantasies so those people who are on the brink of life and death can get some ACTUAL help.

You are right, absolutely. No point in denying that.
Wha I want to say is to ignore them because they can't and won't understand it.
All what they try is to help someone without knowing they doing the opposite. It's kinda fucked up. :/

 

[luten]

well, first and foremost; I live in a country where I must obey the law, whether I agree with the law or not. Just like on SS, there are rules, if you dont follow them, then you are banned. I have to respect my countries regulations, and therefore I cannot partake in many of the threads on SS. Secondly, I think everyone feels different, some simply dont care if you take your own life. My psychiatrist view is that it is your own responsibility. We had three suicide attempts, and two suicides in the family. If you ask me , what do I think about it? I honestly dont have an opinion, I dont know how they felt about their lives, I cant judge them. Some people try to commit suicide in revenge, which I do not agree with.

if I may add, funny how many people, when they talk about cannabis, they call it all sort of names, because it is illegal in their country, but here it is 100% legal, you call it by name. I have open dicussion with my psychiatrist about weed, and other drs, but I havnt used it yet, lol. Every country is different, pro's and con's

 

[LakatosDiogenesz]

It depends. For older generations, "shit happens, I don't blame them" is the general sentiment, but there's been a push in the last 10-20 years to change it to the annoying western ideal of "it's always irrational, lock 'em up and pump 'em full of drugs until they are too dumb to tie a noose".

 

[killedbypsychiatry]

As regards Argentina, people who ctb are:

-Cowards who can't endure life.
-Individuals who need mental health support and will probably spend some time in a psych ward.
-People who think life is bad when things can actually be very good.
-Mentally ill people that you should keep away from your life because according to them, "suicide is contagious". Nobody wants to befriend a suicidal person here.
-Persons who were raised in a wrong way. It's all YOUR PARENTS FAULT.
-Individuals who will try to ctb again because they will probably never recover. (I think this is totally true for many us)

And that's basically the way suicide and suicidal people are seen and treated in Argentina.

What about your country? Is suicide a taboo just like everywhere else? What do "normal" people think about the persons who ctb?

pretty much the same in mexico. I would add that many also think suicide is a great sin and suicidal people will go to hell (people are very religious here)

 

[Isisnefert]

It seems that the thought is similar in all the countries of Catholic culture, in my country and from what I observe the people around me, the suicidal person is stigmatized and criminalized too, and of course he is considered crazy. One of the things that terrifies me the most about ctb is that my soul can never rest because the people of my town, from which I ran away when I was 18 years old, point to my parents forever and make fun of them because of me, my mother would suffer a lot and I can't even allow that to happen.
my family knows that I am suicidal but my mother never wants to hear anything about ctb, it is a taboo, and I suffer so much because of it ...everything is the result of an extremely catholic education.
She and everyone talks badly about people who have committed suicide, and I feel pain when I hear those words because I feel them.
I think if they talk horrible things about you and curse you forever for having ctb we can never rest.
I want my family to only suffer the day I die and for a short period of time, I don't wish them suffering forever because that is what I want to avoid with my ctb.
but I understand that for society I will always be "the crazy one" if ctb.

 

[Into The Void]

As regards Argentina, people who ctb are:

-Cowards who can't endure life.
-Individuals who need mental health support and will probably spend some time in a psych ward.
-People who think life is bad when things can actually be very good.
-Mentally ill people that you should keep away from your life because according to them, "suicide is contagious". Nobody wants to befriend a suicidal person here.
-Persons who were raised in a wrong way. It's all YOUR PARENTS FAULT.
-Individuals who will try to ctb again because they will probably never recover. (I think this is totally true for many us)

And that's basically the way suicide and suicidal people are seen and treated in Argentina.

What about your country? Is suicide a taboo just like everywhere else? What do "normal" people think about the persons who ctb?

From USA Chicago
I don't really know what society at large thinks but I'm assuming that it's similar to what said about your country. Given that I've told my friends and family that I am going to CTB when I'm an old man and they have come to accept it. I've had deep talks about the nature of suicide with them.

 

[GarageKarate07]

I guess we've been recently getting better in terms of spreading mental health awareness. Lately I've seen lots of campaigns for it.
But we have quite a large catholic population and lots of people have the belief that suicide is a sin, selfish etc and can be cured with prayer.
Grandparents tried curing my mental illness by taking me to church at 12-13...

LOL. Don't talk to me talk to Jesus. Me and your grandmother don't want to hear about it. Good job family unit people. Five stars!

pretty much the same in mexico. I would add that many also think suicide is a great sin and suicidal people will go to hell (people are very religious here)

How do they KNOW suicidal people will go to hell and suffer and burn and be tortured and be forgotten for all eternity? Have they tried it? I went to church once. Now everyone but me can get sent to hell because I said so...but me. Jesus only loves me. Not you guys.

 

[Bamman]

I think every country should try to help those and deter it as best only because morally and as a society and as a species I think we do need to help people. Because there is hope for some. I'm no altruist but I think compassion and kindness sets us apart from beast.

BUT, I do think accepting suicide as a reasonable response to otherwise unending physical or emotional suffering or a combination of the two is so utterly logical. I think we are starting to see that in many counties as cancer rates increase and the population keeps getting older and larger.

if I said to you I can breathe underwater without any man made or natural aid other than using my lungs and inhaling straight in you would say it's impossible and you would be right.
Same goes for Accepting that some people realistically only have one choice as much as I'm sure they don't want that one choice. it has to be Ctb.

 

[bad luck]

Country with strong Catholic roots that went from a National Catholic dictatorship to an apparent democracy, sorry, partitocracy where the Caudillo's heirs got everything. They made us a French King, they put us in NATO (NATO), politicians sold our industry and turned this country into a country of services. You know the movie "It is not a country for old men" because where I live is the other way around: It is not a country for young people.

 

[eclipse]

Probably the same as anywhere else. Being suicidal means you need "help", therapy, meds, and in the worst case scenario you have to be institutionalised "to pretect you from yourself". It is never remotely considered to be an actual option.

It is discussed if people beyond 70 with terminal illness should be allowed assisted suicide, but that's it -- it's being discussed but many are against it. Physically healthy people below that age having a right to die is completely out of the question.

 

[RoyalSapphire]

As regards Argentina, people who ctb are:

-Cowards who can't endure life.
-Individuals who need mental health support and will probably spend some time in a psych ward.
-People who think life is bad when things can actually be very good.
-Mentally ill people that you should keep away from your life because according to them, "suicide is contagious". Nobody wants to befriend a suicidal person here.
-Persons who were raised in a wrong way. It's all YOUR PARENTS FAULT.
-Individuals who will try to ctb again because they will probably never recover. (I think this is totally true for many us)

And that's basically the way suicide and suicidal people are seen and treated in Argentina

-Selfish individuals
dont forget about that one

 

[LifeQuitter2018]

Well here in Vietnam:

- Suicide is selfish. Suicide is stupid.
- Suicide is impious, undutiful, ungrateful. Here even dead before your parents (due to other causes not suicide) considered undutiful.
- For atheist: Death is the END. For religious people: suicide may lead you to hell.
- Some even encourage it when you express your emotional, societal concerns - although half joking, half serious. "If you can't endure life / hate your job so much, just kill yourself / just fuck off / just jump off a bridge."
- For the government: they couldn't give two shits about it. Not their duty.

 

[Meretlein]

Suicide is stigmatized in virtually every country and culture. Every major religion believes that people who die by suicide will be punished in some way. Every legal I know of allows suicidal people to be stripped of their autonomy and dignity.

 

[Amumu]

Suicide is stigmatized in virtually every country and culture. Every major religion believes that people who die by suicide will be punished in some way. Every legal I know of allows suicidal people to be stripped of their autonomy and dignity.

To be entirely fair, every major monotheism* believes that people who die by suicide will be punished in some way
I don't deny that monotheism brought about some very good stuff 2000 years ago (like... criminalisation of murder, rape and theft?)
But nowadays criminalisation of suicide pisses off a lot of people including myself.
Hard to find an equilibrium...

 

[Dutchyala]

As regards Argentina, people who ctb are:

-Cowards who can't endure life.
-Individuals who need mental health support and will probably spend some time in a psych ward.
-People who think life is bad when things can actually be very good.
-Mentally ill people that you should keep away from your life because according to them, "suicide is contagious". Nobody wants to befriend a suicidal person here.
-Persons who were raised in a wrong way. It's all YOUR PARENTS FAULT.
-Individuals who will try to ctb again because they will probably never recover. (I think this is totally true for many us)

And that's basically the way suicide and suicidal people are seen and treated in Argentina.

What about your country? Is suicide a taboo just like everywhere else? What do "normal" people think about the persons who ctb?

Pretty much like yours. I live close, in Brazil.

I would just add that you are possessed by demons and/or if you go to church and have faith in Jesus you will heal. This is what my aunt thinks of my officially diagnosed autism and other mental issues. People here are very religious.

 

[Mentalmick]

Here in Scotland it's usually selfish and weak.

 

[deleted]

here in Brazil they see the suicide as someone without faith in God, or who wants to call attention, that was to be expected in a country with so many religious fanatics and imbeciles

 

[MrBlue]

It's obviously not completely consistent accross the population but it tends to be a weird blend of understanding that people can struggle from time to time and that it's an issue with the traditional british stiff upper lip, so you're expected to deal with it without showing it as much as posssible, if you do ctb then you failed in that and therefore will be judged negatively for it somewhat.

I think it also varies widely depending on who's struggling, as with anything. Someone like me diying would be considered tragic because I'm relatively young but pathetic/negative in that I'm a virgin with no friends (ie: a loser), so most would assume I was lazy, misogonistic or should have simply lived with my lot and beat it with confidence and power poses or something lol.

 

[Aeathelina]

Given how big the USA is there's varying opinions of suicide.
I can say has a Catholic raised (not practicing) that in the Hispanic/ African community in the South it is heavily frowned. Doesn't matter what you're experiencing if you choose Suicide as the way out then you are seem as a coward who was too weak to deal with your issues.