letsalllovelain
I wish I were a bird
- May 10, 2023
- 16
I've seen people say that you'd get sanctioned automatically for a suicide attempt but they just let me off. Did they just not do their jobs correctly or is there other reasons for this?
Kundalini Guy
FULLY RECOVERED
- Mar 27, 2023
- 516
My psychiatrist told me its the last decision they would ever do to someone in a crisis. It also ruins the relationship between the patient and the psychiatrist so they try to avoid it as much as possible. Suicide attempt in their eyes would be the worst thing a patient can do so its an automatic ticket to the psych ward.
I was stopped attempting to ctb by an off duty police officer (UK) and was taken to a Hospital (A & E, not psychiatric) for evaluation by the casualty surgeon. They released me into the custody of my partner and then followed 2-3 years of constant visits & checks by CPNs, GP and consulting supervising psychiatrist. Plus heavy dosing with Fluoxetine and Citalopram.
I was advised by one of the community nurses that if, at any time, they felt I could present a danger to myself or the general public I'd be sectioned straight off.
Don't know if this assists, however that was my experience.
I was advised by one of the community nurses that if, at any time, they felt I could present a danger to myself or the general public I'd be sectioned straight off.
Don't know if this assists, however that was my experience.
PurpleParadigm
The glow is an illusion
- Mar 22, 2023
- 201
In the UK if they catch you in the act of taking your life but even then this will likely be preceeded by some sort of evaluation. It in unlikely to happen here.
It really depends I think on the professional, your diagnosis/presentation, previous history, bed capacity. Sectioning is generally a last resort and if there is no other way for you to safely have treatment at home. An attempt doesn't necessarily mean that you'd meet the criteria for the mental health act and even if you do, they may let you off due to no room on psych wards
S136 is pretty common section, that's where police can take you to place of safety (e.g A&E) but it only lasts 24hrs and most people are just sent home after. I think it's pretty difficult to get sectioned for hospital stay (S2 or S3) in UK as there just isn't enough psych beds. So most of the time after attempts people are just sent home to either no support or crisis team. Some people are sectioned after first attempt but I think it's have to be very medically serious and also if maybe you tried to run away from hospital or harm yourself whilst being treated, anything that meant you didn't have capacity. But even then not guaranteed as heard of people who have had attempts landing them in ICU and saying they have further plans to then just be discharged. Or people who are discharged and immediately try again and succeed that time.
I think you most likely to be sectioned if you clearly can't demonstrate capacity. For example, severe psychosis where you're having delusions and hallucinations. Anything else they're just like 'well you have capacity to understand and kill yourself'.
I was sectioned once after an attempt for a month (had literally barely started attempt and was stopped by police, yet wasn't sectioned when id ended up in resus) but I'd had several previous attempts (some pathetic attempts before I found here , chickened out or was found) and I've lost count of how many times I'd landed in hospital for self-harm prior to this. It was only because my mental health team had already had a meeting considering mental health act assessment and repeatedly pushed for it as they were sick of me.
S136 is pretty common section, that's where police can take you to place of safety (e.g A&E) but it only lasts 24hrs and most people are just sent home after. I think it's pretty difficult to get sectioned for hospital stay (S2 or S3) in UK as there just isn't enough psych beds. So most of the time after attempts people are just sent home to either no support or crisis team. Some people are sectioned after first attempt but I think it's have to be very medically serious and also if maybe you tried to run away from hospital or harm yourself whilst being treated, anything that meant you didn't have capacity. But even then not guaranteed as heard of people who have had attempts landing them in ICU and saying they have further plans to then just be discharged. Or people who are discharged and immediately try again and succeed that time.
I think you most likely to be sectioned if you clearly can't demonstrate capacity. For example, severe psychosis where you're having delusions and hallucinations. Anything else they're just like 'well you have capacity to understand and kill yourself'.
I was sectioned once after an attempt for a month (had literally barely started attempt and was stopped by police, yet wasn't sectioned when id ended up in resus) but I'd had several previous attempts (some pathetic attempts before I found here , chickened out or was found) and I've lost count of how many times I'd landed in hospital for self-harm prior to this. It was only because my mental health team had already had a meeting considering mental health act assessment and repeatedly pushed for it as they were sick of me.
I got sectioned overnight in hospital after a ctb attempt. But I was under arrest too. I was released next afternoon then a crisis team visited me at home for 2 or 3 days after then that was it.
It's meant to be if you are a threat to yourself or others you'll be sectioned. But in my experience they just want you to say you won't do anything so they can tick a box. AND in my opinion they are happy if you ctb so they don't need to deal with you anymore. No one is in the mental health field because they actually care in my experience.
It's meant to be if you are a threat to yourself or others you'll be sectioned. But in my experience they just want you to say you won't do anything so they can tick a box. AND in my opinion they are happy if you ctb so they don't need to deal with you anymore. No one is in the mental health field because they actually care in my experience.
sannoji
dreaming of flying
- May 4, 2023
- 55
when i attempted (uk) they made me talk to a psychiatrist and then later a social worker bc i brought up some trauma. but to get discharged literally all i had to do was claim it was an impulse and therefore i wouldn't do it again. it was a very shoddy attempt though since i didn't have access to any resources on what actually works so may be more difficult to get away from if your attempt is more clearly planned and intentional
