What are your thoughts on this?

[Shu]

Someone from discord just said this to me " I think people who kill themselves are cowards and weak, good that they kill themselves because we don't need such weak minded people in society. If you can't face what's within, what you truly are then you're already dead and should just do us all a favour"


What do you think about this statement?

 

[Endoflifecomestoall]

Sounds like someone that has never been in that position with little experience of life.

 

[Shu]

I think he might be right. More motivation for me to CTB.

 

[symphony]

Sounds like someone that has never been in that position with little experience of life.

I agree with this.

Also, suicide is by far the bravest thing I've ever attempted. It takes a lot of courage to go through with it, especially seeing as fear of death and SI are seriously hard-wired in our brains.

 

[walt]

To be fair, suicide probably is some form of natural selection.

I think people distance themselves too much from death and the facade we have of death is uncanny to what it really is, ugly, tragic, and completely natural.

But.. I think such of people who say people should "just do it" or "it's okay because it's natural selection" , no, that doesn't make it okay. Nature is more horrifying than people can imagine, and justifying it with a simple "it's natural" doesn't cut it for me.

 

[jawdropped123]

Someone from discord just said this to me " I think people who kill themselves are cowards and weak, good that they kill themselves because we don't need such weak minded people in society. If you can't face what's within, what you truly are then you're already dead and should just do us all a favour"


What do you think about this statement?

Well that sounds like a really weak minded person who have never struggled with anything

 

[Red Scare]

I think he might be right.

He sounds like some kind of nazi to me.

To be fair, suicide probably is some form of natural selection.

Ah yes, all those good people, who were loved by their families, just had to die to make way for the übermensch....

 

[walt]

He sounds like some kind of nazi to me.

Ah yes, all those good people, who were loved by their families, just had to die to make way for the übermensch....

Sorry if that was harsh, I'm not trying to be rude. I think it is just a byproduct of us being more sophisticated than most species on this planet, with sophistication comes complications, and on and on. The problem here lies, comparing humans to other species is hard behavior wise in some aspects because we act wildly differently due to our insanely intricate and developed brains over millions of years of evolution.

All in all these processes led to mental illnesses, and suicidality. There are other extremely sophisticated species which have shown the capability to understand the impact of suicide, and commit the act, such as dolphins. The point I'm getting here is that while it may be just a byproduct and not "natural" per say, it's still another way whether purposefully or accidentally which nature has to get rid of members of a species. That's not to say we live in a vacuum, and the world is perfect, or that people are committing suicide off a whim. I reckon if the world was a utopia those rates would drop, and we would only see the most severe cases of disorders upon birth being the victims of suicide.

 

[rationaldeath]

A lot of people that say things like that are either afraid or unable to understand what drives people to suicide. I think the truth is usually the complete opposite, taking one's own life is frequently a product of directly confronting reality within and without. Distractions and delusional beliefs that keep people from thinking about their problems (including the fact that their own death is inevitable) are very widespread.

Also death is the scariest thing there is for most people, society and our biological programming deeply ingrains that into us. To actually choose it for oneself means to overcome that immense fear, which I view as one of the most courageous acts one can take.

 

[Red Scare]

we act wildly differently due to our insanely intricate and developed brains over millions of years of evolution.

Pure hubris. We are not special. Most animals evolved over the same amount of time and humans have just screwed themselves and the environment, most animals remain adapted to living outside, and live in somewhat symbiotic relationships with their surroundings, where as all it would take is a large solar flare or emp to bring humanity down. And I never knew of another animal that could create nuclear weapons, which will probably lead to our species' extinction.

We're just animals, doing what other animals do, but no other animal has inflicted such torture and cruelty on the world. Most animals (minus a few) do not kill except to eat, or to protect themselves.

And as far as humans and a few other species (like dogs for example) are concerned, natural selection no longer applies. We are no longer subject to the select adaptations that are influenced by nature, rather we artificially select attributes to pass on.

 

[Cathy Ames]

Quite possibly that person was trying to goad you into suicide as a power trip. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction they would get out of setting your agenda for you.

I have noticed some people online that make a lot of "edgy" or "brutal" statements, and I do think it is calculated to adversely affect the "lesser" people around them. I think there's a name for it, but it is escaping me right now.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

What do you think about this statement?

Nothing at all. I'm beginning to get back my ability to brand people as incorrect and ignore them.

 

[ClownMe]

Sounds like a jerk.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

Someone from discord just said this to me " I think people who kill themselves are cowards and weak, good that they kill themselves because we don't need such weak minded people in society. If you can't face what's within, what you truly are then you're already dead and should just do us all a favour"


What do you think about this statement?

If they helped fund my N they'd become my best friend. I already know how society feels about suicide. I don't need it parroted again -- I need results. Action.
If they put their money where their mouth is and took me behind a shed with a shotgun loaded with buckshot rounds, and emptied them into my brain stem, then their words would hold actual substance to me.

Until then my face is like stone in response.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Someone from discord just said this to me " I think people who kill themselves are cowards and weak, good that they kill themselves because we don't need such weak minded people in society. If you can't face what's within, what you truly are then you're already dead and should just do us all a favour"


What do you think about this statement?

I'm calling his bluff by agreeing with everything he's saying, at least when it comes to my own situation. I totally am a coward and weak-minded and if I continue to be alive, I will inevitably contribute a small amount to society's ruin and spread misery too. I fully intend to do this favor he so graciously asks from me, just not right now but certainly soon.

 

[Foresight]

Sounds like a child or an adult that doesn't quite grasp the full scope of human existence.

 

[LADY007]

Someone from discord just said this to me " I think people who kill themselves are cowards and weak, good that they kill themselves because we don't need such weak minded people in society. If you can't face what's within, what you truly are then you're already dead and should just do us all a favour"


What do you think about this statement?

Ignor idiots !!

 

[NaturalBornNEET]

hes a generic idiot who cant look beyond himself and probably doesnt realise society treats different people differently

everyone has a limit where if passed they would commit suicide and he isnt excluded, hes just been privileged enough to be born in a body and circumstances that hasnt pushed him passed that limit yet

 

[unraveling]

Quite possibly that person was trying to goad you into suicide as a power trip. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction they would get out of setting your agenda for you.

I have noticed some people online that make a lot of "edgy" or "brutal" statements, and I do think it is calculated to adversely affect the "lesser" people around them. I think there's a name for it, but it is escaping me right now.

exactly. People like that, there's no point in hanging around them, and every reason to keep them as far away from you as possible. And that personality type does not ever improve much, in my experience. Once you've identified them, just walk away and don't look back.

 

[Chiisai]

Someone from discord just said this to me " I think people who kill themselves are cowards and weak, good that they kill themselves because we don't need such weak minded people in society. If you can't face what's within, what you truly are then you're already dead and should just do us all a favour"


What do you think about this statement?

Well, people are entitled to their own opinion. I used to be affected by others' words but now that I have made my decision, their words become irrelevant. So I let them be.

As for me, I think of it as sacrifice. Being a financial, emotional, and psychological liability is difficult especially in a growing family.

 

[coffinkisser]

Someone from discord just said this to me " I think people who kill themselves are cowards and weak, good that they kill themselves because we don't need such weak minded people in society. If you can't face what's within, what you truly are then you're already dead and should just do us all a favour"


What do you think about this statement?

I think that the amount of courage it takes to actually kill yourself is way too much for anyone to call them "cowards". been trying to get the courage for 5+ years.

 

[Shu]

To be fair, suicide probably is some form of natural selection.

I think people distance themselves too much from death and the facade we have of death is uncanny to what it really is, ugly, tragic, and completely natural.

But.. I think such of people who say people should "just do it" or "it's okay because it's natural selection" , no, that doesn't make it okay. Nature is more horrifying than people can imagine, and justifying it with a simple "it's natural" doesn't cut it for me.

I'm just wondering.. how is suicide natural?

 

[FuneralCry]

Suicide is a human right, we all have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing. To me, there is nothing weak or cowardly about choosing to end all suffering, it is a personal decision when to end your life. We have no obligations to stay alive as we did not ask to exist. Some people may come to the conclusion that their life is not worth living and that does not mean they are weak. In my case, wanting suicide is perfectly rational, it makes sense for me. Suicide is so difficult as well, I have never wanted to live but yet I am still here as it is so hard to exit.

 

[tieiwi]

This is what I tell myself daily so it's just reconfirmation

 

[Someone123]

Someone from discord just said this to me " I think people who kill themselves are cowards and weak, good that they kill themselves because we don't need such weak minded people in society. If you can't face what's within, what you truly are then you're already dead and should just do us all a favour"


What do you think about this statement?

If this person goes through some really tough times they will find out otherwise- this is a person who has no comprehension at all of the subject they are talking about.

 

[Judy Garland]

Someone from discord just said this to me " I think people who kill themselves are cowards and weak, good that they kill themselves because we don't need such weak minded people in society. If you can't face what's within, what you truly are then you're already dead and should just do us all a favour"

Think of what kind of negative spirit it takes to say those things! Ugh! A person like that belongs here in this world. If someone can't empathize and understand that a person is tortured by living here and that is why they commit suicide, to end their suffering, If they can't understand that, they aren't that good. They are low in every sense of the word.
This place, this world. Too many people like that person exist, and I can't love them.

 

[deathbydragon]

They sound more weak minded than the people they're accusing.

 

[walt]

I'm just wondering.. how is suicide natural?

Ehh I probably shouldn't have made that post, I apologize for it.

 

[whatevs]

It's a pragmatic approach, makes sense. It doesn't offend me, to me it checks out. Although suicide is undoubtedly very courageous as people pointed out in this thread, it's true that "weakness" and "lack of fitness" drives you there, so you might make everyone's life a little lighter by not being around. I can notice that I stress and spoil the mood of my relatives with my suicidality and existential rants.

 

[NothingElseMatters]

those who are still alive are the ones taking the easier path.