Discussion What are the biggest things that you like or dislike about this site and the people who use it here?

[ijustwishtodie]

What the title says really. You can state the things that you like or the things that you dislike or you can state both about the site itself and/or the users on this site

 

[Dingusguy]

I mean I like the fact that others and myself can come on here to find like-minded people who understand us or at the very least won't judge us for what we say if and when we vent on here.

I dislike the amount of people on here but that's not so much about the site as it is the world in general. No one should feel so awful they want to CTB, but unfortunately a lot of people do.

 

[FuneralCry]

For me it's just a place to vent about my wish to die, I believe this site is beneficial as it offers suicide method information which is compassionate. This site has probably meant there are less people suffering from failed attempts due to attempting unreliable methods.

 

[Slow_Farewell]

I like that it exists.

The posts/people probably are something i don't like. Some are quick to spread the "it's so and so group's fault", either in their posts or comments. Little sense of objectivity. Then there's the toxic empathy, the over-empathy as well. I mean, the line between being an enabler is something that's quickly crossed so often. Then there's the stereotypical hypocrisy. I recall a post asking if it was okay to get in a relationship with someone when one is suicidal. There's someone whose initial response was ok but ended it with something like Guys, stop inflicting trauma on women or something like that. I dont know if that person forgot where they were or that we were supposed to be "inclusive" but you can bet your behind that there's a lot of similar posts or comments like that.

Then there's the posts without research. I have no idea how this site was represented but I keep seeing stuff asking about the methods when it's obvious the person asking didnt really check for themselves first. I figured the least one would want to do is figure out things for themselves when it comes to their own CTB's but..i guess i was wrong?

Bottom line? The site isnt perfect BUT no site really is, and at the end of the day, if I can be adult enough to want to CTB then I'm adult enough to ignore what people post and just move on to the next post.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

For me it's just a place to vent about my wish to die, I believe this site is beneficial as it offers suicide method information which is compassionate. This site has probably meant there are less people suffering from failed attempts due to attempting unreliable methods.

Well said. I think it's unfortunate that other places on the internet aren't willing to give suicide information out. From what I've seen, this is the only place where information on suicide is given and it's a good thing that people kill themselves through peaceful methods instead of relying on harsher and riskier methods

 

[byebyeblondie]

I like this site. I find it comforting because I can come here to talk openly about how I feel, in a way that I find I'm unable to do so anywhere else.

I haven't personally felt judgement when venting or expressing my feelings about suicide and I find the resources on methods really useful and informative.

I also like that it isn't always just about suicide. There are topics where you can just chat about random things which I find can help distract my mind for just a moment.

It seems like a safe space to talk about things that would likely get me sectioned if I spoke to a 'professional'.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I like this site. I find it comforting because I can come here to talk openly about how I feel, in a way that I find I'm unable to do so anywhere else.

I haven't personally felt judgement when venting or expressing my feelings about suicide and I find the resources on methods really useful and informative.

I also like that it isn't always just about suicide. There are topics where you can just chat about random things which I find can help distract my mind for just a moment.

It seems like a safe space to talk about things that would likely get me sectioned if I spoke to a 'professional'.

I agree with all of this. It's nice that this site exists and gives us a safe space and also gives us full of information about suicide methods so that we don't have to go through a method incorrectly or use an ineffective method

 

[BlackMoon]

I just dislike the few rare times I see hateful posts about a person or a group of persons, sometime to the point of wishing their suicides or sufferings over them.

I don't know if I can or not, but I would like to block users who write those kind of posts.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I just dislike the few rare times I see hateful posts about a person or a group of persons, sometime to the point of wishing their suicides or sufferings over them.

I don't know if I can or not, but I would like to block users who write those kind of posts.

I don't know if this counts as blocking necessarily but what people refer to as this site's way of blocking users is the "ignore" feature. When you click on somebody's username once, you get presented 3 options that you can do regarding that user. There's the "follow" option, "ignore" option and "start conversation" option. The ignore option supposedly blocks users but I don't fully know as I never used it

 

[Forever Sleep]

I just dislike the few rare times I see hateful posts about a person or a group of persons, sometime to the point of wishing their suicides or sufferings over them.

I don't know if I can or not, but I would like to block users who write those kind of posts.

I don't think I've come across anything as hateful as that but- isn't there a 'report' button on the bottom left (on mobile devices anyway) of each comment? I haven't actually done it but I assume that would highlight the post to our mods. They will then assess whether it warrants a warning or a suspension or ban.

Personally, I love this place. When you consider what it is and why we're here, I think it's incredible that on the whole- people are actually usually nice to one another. I came here initially for methods- which I'm incredibly grateful for. Far beyond that though, I've loved the chance to talk about all sorts of things here with some really interesting, intelligent and sensitive people. Stuff that most people in real life shy away from. It's a great form of distraction for me while I wait till I can CTB. I've found it an incredible support system.

My major dislike? It wouldn't be with this place. It would be how it's perceived by the media and pro-lifers out there. I wish they'd be reasonable and open minded. Unless I truly am crazy- possible of course, I don't see it as the dangerous death cult it's made out to be.

My most major concern would be minors on here. But- I don't know how that could be entirely prevented without risking identity exposure. I'm sure our mods do a great job in filtering them out. I expect it sounds kind of cruel really. I suppose it is. I was a suicidal minor. My ideation began when I was 10. So- I do sympathise and know how it feels. I'm just not convinced that this place is the most balanced for a young mind. It tends to be all negative. Plus, we don't have the resources within us to confidently help I imagine- if recovery is even still possible. We're suicidal ourselves. We're hardly a good advert for sticking it out!

Plus- from a selfish and practical perspective- the last thing this forum needs are actual suicides amongst minors that had accounts here. Ultimately- it is them who lied to get the account and I would also say- why didn't their parents have parental locks or whatever on their devices? I would think being tech savy is a requisite for parents these days. Why didn't their parents even notice they were suicidal? Still, I guess mine didn't either. But still- it would be the forum and all of us on here that communicated with them that got the blame. I've become much more cautious about discussing methods as a result- not that I know much anyway to be honest!

I don't much care for the spats that go on over how it should be more promortalist (effectively) or more pro-life but inevitably- it's open to free speech to people who have sometimes almost polar opposite views- so- that's bound to happen. I think that's where the 'ignore' button is useful though. We're all bound to have some people with views that trigger us on here. I probably trigger some people. I think sometimes it's better just to put them on 'ignore' rather than try and engage in a discussion or argument with them. Some people don't want to debate their views- which is fair enough. We're probably all here for slightly different reasons. But yeah- I think this place is set up in as ideal a way it can be to allow everyone to express how they feel and use things like the 'ignore' button to avoid views that may trigger them. I love this place. I'm so grateful to our mods.

 

[winamp]

I dislike arguments in threads between users that could easily be taken to inbox/private messages

I have seen this happen several times over the course of me being a member here and it is upsetting and annoying to see

because I thought adults would be able to articulate themselves more and have the ability to problem solve or agree to disagree

but also my dislike or judgement may be wrong or uncalled for because when we come to the site we must also acknowledge that some or maybe a large demographic of users here are mentally ill

so I am unsure how to feel about my dislike
but I don't think someone's mental illness should keep them exempt from certain things or that we should infantilize the mentally ill

but other than that everything else is fine and I am glad a site/community like this exists and I am also grateful for the moderators

 

[hikikomorizombie]

i like basically everything about this site. ofc, there are some users/posts i've seen that i don't like, but that's expected to happen when interacting w ppl.

my only real main gripes are posters that completely go against the entire point of this site. like begging ppl not to do it, imposing their religion onto them, or both at the same time. + ppl that must've not read the 'no lazy replies' part when applying to SaSu. it's disheartening when i try to open discussions just to get half baked 1 sentence answers, or replies that show they didn't really read/comprehend the post.

 

[Wake]

What the title says really. You can state the things that you like or the things that you dislike or you can state both about the site itself and/or the users on this site

I dislike that most people who come here don't want to hear any judgments if you got anything to say it must be positive. And I don't mean acting in a good manner I mean people saying thye are going to ctb and all I can say is am happy for you like seriously wtf. People here come because they are experiencing bad days and tired of their life so the best thing we could do for them make em feel they are not alone that it's not wrong to still be hopeful you can't imagine what a kind word can do to a person

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I dislike arguments in threads between users that could easily be taken to inbox/private messages

I have seen this happen several times over the course of me being a member here and it is upsetting and annoying to see

because I thought adults would be able to articulate themselves more and have the ability to problem solve or agree to disagree

but also my dislike or judgement may be wrong or uncalled for because when we come to the site we must also acknowledge that some or maybe a large demographic of users here are mentally ill

so I am unsure how to feel about my dislike
but I don't think someone's mental illness should keep them exempt from certain things or that we should infantilize the mentally ill

but other than that everything else is fine and I am glad a site/community like this exists and I am also grateful for the moderators

I agree with all of this. Though, with regards to debate, I noticed that adults don't really do a better job at it than children. With a lot of opposing views, a lot of adults can't even comprehend why somebody would believe that.

Also, yeah, I believe that a lot of people here are mentally ill too as, usually, but not always, it's those who were given a bad set of cards which end up being suicidal and some of these cards include mental illness

 

[BlackMoon]

I don't think I've come across anything as hateful as that but- isn't there a 'report' button on the bottom left (on mobile devices anyway) of each comment? I haven't actually done it but I assume that would highlight the post to our mods. They will then assess whether it warrants a warning or a suspension or ban.

I'm not sure if it's technically banned by the rules so I never reported one. For example I think about this recent post in the Suggestion section: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-pro-pedophilia-discourse.147478/post-2313998

Even if the member is not openly encouraging to CtB, it's harsh and, at the very least, borderline. I refuse to consider encouraging/wishing/being sadistically happy of somebody catching the bus as something acceptable, whatever the reason or the person in question.

Plus- from a selfish and practical perspective- the last thing this forum needs are actual suicides amongst minors that had accounts here. Ultimately- it is them who lied to get the account and I would also say- why didn't their parents have parental locks or whatever on their devices? I would think being tech savy is a requisite for parents these days. Why didn't their parents even notice they were suicidal? Still, I guess mine didn't either. But still- it would be the forum and all of us on here that communicated with them that got the blame.

I think parental locks should be banned and that no parent should have the right to monitor and track young ones, especially teenagers.

Except that, I'm sadly agreeing with you on the fact that in an adultist world, it's would be absolutely impossible to maintain such forum if it was allowing minors, and that because parents and other adults will refuse to reconsider themselves, they will just blame the forum and their members instead.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I'm not sure if it's technically banned by the rules so I never reported one. For example I think about this recent post in the Suggestion section: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-pro-pedophilia-discourse.147478/post-2313998

Even if the member is not openly encouraging to CtB, it's harsh and, at the very least, borderline. I refuse to consider encouraging/wishing/being sadistically happy of somebody catching the bus as something acceptable, whatever the reason or the person in question.



I think parental locks should be banned and that no parent should have the right to monitor and track young ones, especially teenagers.

Except that, I'm sadly agreeing with you on the fact that in an adultist world, it's would be absolutely impossible to maintain such forum if it was allowing minors, and that because parents and other adults will refuse to reconsider themselves, they will just blame the forum and their members instead.

That's a very difficult issue really. I agree- no one should openly encourage another person to CTB- that is very much against the rules.

As a philosophical question though- it's kind of valid. What is better? Remain alive and rape someone or watch child porn which funds other adults to rape children or- take yourself out the picture? Obviously the answer is- not all peadophiles rape children and watch child pornography. Not all incels have a violent hatred of women that they act upon. Obviously though- those two labels tend to throw up the very worst kinds of behaviour that violently changes the course of another person's life.

It's a very difficult subject. Would I personally prefer it if the most prolific child rapists and killers in the world had killed themselves before they ruined the lives of all those innocent children- I mean- sorry but- yes! That's not to say I'm encouraging peadophiles to kill themselves. Preferably, they should go on living but not hurt children in any way. That would include not consuming child pornography- that does hurt children.

I do understand what you mean though. No member should be advising suicide to another. I think certain topics likely to provoke strong responses because some members here have been abused.

 

[Celerity]

I dislike how repetitive the threads can get, but there's an inescapable, dull sameness to the mental illness/suicidal ideation struggle. Then there's off-topic to deal with that anyway.

Most of my beef with this site has to do with individual users with whom I disagree. I just ignore them and move on, and I assume they do the same with me.

 

[Rapière]

My biggest issue with this site is the lack of interactiveness, I would say. It feels like a lot of people just come here to think out loud, share their feelings and collect hugboxes... which is fine, but it sucks for those of us who've been here a while longer and have already heard every conplaint about the world a million and one times. Threads also die out very quuckly and it's almost never worth putting much thought or effort into your posts, unless you're making an OP (which I never felt comfortable with), because it's so unlikely that anyone will give it a proper read.

I really miss the old days where it felt like we had an actual community thing going on. Logging on always gave me so much relief,. It almost had something cheerful, as macabre as that might sound. Now it's just cold and empty. -- Occianily, I see older members log back on only to disappear again a few days later. It's really sad to see. And I'm just stuck here being whiny and miserable because I have nowhere else to go.

 

[hikikomorizombie]

My biggest issue with this site is the lack of interactiveness, I would say. It feels like a lot of people just come here to think out loud, share their feelings and collect hugboxes.

100% valid. wow, why didn't i comment this!! lol. i feel the same way. legit just posted asking things abt SaSu as a new member, but i deleted it bc there were 20+ views & not a single comment

or ppl finally will comment on my posts, but it'll be 1 sentence showing they didn't comprehend/read a single thing, which just makes me want to delete it. or i reply to their reply w a ?, trying to strike up a convo & know more abt them, just to never get a reply back or even a like to acknowledge it ://

if i'm lucky i get like 3 intelligent, well worded comments on every postmax.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

My biggest issue with this site is the lack of interactiveness, I would say. It feels like a lot of people just come here to think out loud, share their feelings and collect hugboxes... which is fine, but it sucks for those of us who've been here a while longer and have already heard every conplaint about the world a million and one times. Threads also die out very quuckly and it's almost never worth putting much thought or effort into your posts, unless you're making an OP (which I never felt comfortable with), because it's so unlikely that anyone will give it a proper read.

That's a valid complaint. Though I think it's understandable that this site doesn't have a lot of interactiveness as I feel like some, if not most, people have only came to this site to search for information regarding suicide methods and then leave (i.e. CTB) when they find said information

I really miss the old days where it felt like we had an actual community thing going on. Logging on always gave me so much relief,. It almost had something cheerful, as macabre as that might sound. Now it's just cold and empty. -- Occianily, I see older members log back on only to disappear again a few days later. It's really sad to see. And I'm just stuck here being whiny and miserable because I have nowhere else to go.

I can't comment on this as I had no idea what the community was like before. However, I do wonder if the whole tantacrul situation contributed to this. From what people have been saying, the site has been changing and gone more mainstream after that tantacrul video

100% valid. wow, why didn't i comment this!! lol. i feel the same way. legit just posted asking things abt SaSu as a new member, but i deleted it bc there were 20+ views & not a single comment

I relate to this whenever I usually make a thread. So many people view the threads but they don't comment on them. I don't know why that is but maybe they have no energy or something? I tend to have no energy to comment on my worst days

or ppl finally will comment on my posts, but it'll be 1 sentence showing they didn't comprehend/read a single thing, which just makes me want to delete it. or i reply to their reply w a ?, trying to strike up a convo & know more abt them, just to never get a reply back or even a like to acknowledge it ://

I tend to give one sentence replies sometimes and I only do it because I want to comment something but I lack the energy to expand on said comment. For me, just merely existing drains my energy so much and other people may be going through the same thing when they comment one sentence posts too

 

[cold_severance]

people are too lenient about obvious pro-lifers. another thing is that im still pissed that at first i was denied registration on here without any explanation as to why.

 

[Celerity]

My biggest issue with this site is the lack of interactiveness, I would say. It feels like a lot of people just come here to think out loud, share their feelings and collect hugboxes... which is fine, but it sucks for those of us who've been here a while longer and have already heard every conplaint about the world a million and one times. Threads also die out very quuckly and it's almost never worth putting much thought or effort into your posts, unless you're making an OP (which I never felt comfortable with), because it's so unlikely that anyone will give it a proper read.

I really miss the old days where it felt like we had an actual community thing going on. Logging on always gave me so much relief,. It almost had something cheerful, as macabre as that might sound. Now it's just cold and empty. -- Occianily, I see older members log back on only to disappear again a few days later. It's really sad to see. And I'm just stuck here being whiny and miserable because I have nowhere else to go.

I myself haven't noticed a huge change in interaction, but if you're correct, I wonder if it's because of the emoji reactions. In the past when I struggled to come up with something to say, I would sit there in front of the keyboard for a while until the inspiration struck and I felt like I could come up with something at least moderately sympathetic or helpful. Now, I can just hit the hugs emoji and move on.

 

[Rapière]

I myself haven't noticed a huge change in interaction, but if you're correct, I wonder if it's because of the emoji reactions. In the past when I struggled to come up with something to say, I would sit there in front of the keyboard for a while until the inspiration struck and I felt like I could come up with something at least moderately sympathetic or helpful. Now, I can just hit the hugs emoji and move on.

I wasn't here before emojis were introduced, so I don't know if that played any role. I think it's mainly the shift to a younger a demogtaphic with lower a attention span that caused this transformation.

 

[rozeske]

What I love about this site is obvious... but what I hate is the tones and tones of question threads stating "choose a method for me" or threads that state "tell me how to ctb with XYZ, dos and don'ts of XYZ, and also while you are there at it tell me how to aquire XYZ"

I feel like such threads need their own section as they are crowding the S. discussion section.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

What I love about this site is obvious... but what I hate is the tones and tones of question threads stating "choose a method for me" or threads that state "tell me how to ctb with XYZ, dos and don'ts of XYZ, and also while you are there at it tell me how to aquire XYZ"

I feel like those questions would be okay if there were asked outside of this forum as information regarding suicide methods are so scarce on other places on the internet. However, over here, there's a massive compliation of information regarding suicide methods so it feels weird to ask questions like that when these questions have most likely been answered in the megathread regarding suicide methods. Either way, the question that strikes to me the most as being odd is asking to choose a method as there are lots of factors that can affect what suicide methods a person can do and nobody knows what the person asking the question is like irl. Only the individual can decide which suicide method is best for them depending on things like how much they think they can combat SI, if they have a limited window of time where they can do a suicide attempt, what type of resources they can get access to etc.

 

[Celerity]

I wasn't here before emojis were introduced, so I don't know if that played any role. I think it's mainly the shift to a younger a demogtaphic with lower a attention span that caused this transformation.

Maybe so. I was shocked to see how many people came from YouTube after Tantacrul uploaded his video about the site. It's funny to me how much that backfired for him, though I doubt he really gives a shit about people's wellbeing.

 

[Krobo]

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I can't help but feel there are some posters roleplaying as suicidal so they can participate in the suicide forum and doing an unconvincing job of it. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't irritated by that.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I can't help but feel there are some posters roleplaying as suicidal so they can participate in the suicide forum and doing an unconvincing job of it. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't irritated by that.

This.. isn't something I noticed at all. But I don't understand it. Why would anybody want to roleplay as a suicidal person? I mean, based from what I've seen, those who aren't suicidal really loathe the mindset and ideas that suicidal people have so why would they roleplay as one?

 

[Rapière]

Maybe so. I was shocked to see how many people came from YouTube after Tantacrul uploaded his video about the site. It's funny to me how much that backfired for him, though I doubt he really gives a shit about people's wellbeing.

Yeah, truly shocking that "don't go to that evil site where you can talk openly talk about your feelings without being judged" wasn't enough to stop people from coming here.

 

[wCvML2]

This.. isn't something I noticed at all. But I don't understand it. Why would anybody want to roleplay as a suicidal person? I mean, based from what I've seen, those who aren't suicidal really loathe the mindset and ideas that suicidal people have so why would they roleplay as one?

There was a psychology student who admitted in a thread she posted that she wasn't suicidal and made up a story to get in just to inspect a forum of suicidal people and I think she wrote in that post a critic of the forum and how she thinks it's bad and then left the site

this is one example