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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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we are actually living in hell. because just look at this whole thing. We are being tortured in various ways, every positive thing that happens wasn't actually positive it was a form a torture in the long run. For example say u have a girlfriend u love, one day what's gonna happen is either u break up or she dies. All that positive u experienced will bite u in the ass because it will only make this loss more substantial. Being born we are guaranteed to experience the loss of the ones that brought us here, the emotional connection we formed through our entire life is gonna torture us when the moment arises. Just look at the whole idea of life, we have to go to school, then find a job work it for 50 years. Doesn't this sound like torture to u. All the injustice and pain make sense if this world is hell. All these religions talking about a loving creator are all false because this world is only about suffering.

Most of the time I feel like a literal walking dead or vampire because of the fact that I have to devour and consume other forms of life to stay alive, but it doesn't feel like this is truly living. I feel like if someone was truly living they would also be completely free, but we'll never know any kind of freedom in this flesh prison we call a body.
 
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SadPingu

SadPingu

Go out like a spark, my trauma and me.
Jul 27, 2023
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Owner of a lonely heart much better than owner of a broken heart (as the song does go)
 
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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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Owner of a lonely heart much better than owner of a broken heart (as the song does go)
better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
 
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Zegers

Zegers

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Dec 15, 2021
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In some lifes it makes sense definitely. My "life" must be some kind of condemnation or hell.
 
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Euthanza

Euthanza

Self Righteous Suicide
Jun 9, 2022
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I would say that's 99% true if not 100%. For those who's afraid of hell after life need not to worry, we're in it.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Asides from your parents, do you REALLY believe someone malliciously did this to you? Did your parents even do it maliciously to watch you suffer?

I guess if there is a God, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me to wonder if they are sadistic but I get the impression you don't believe in a God. I certainly think people make this a living hell for some. I think the capitalist, consummerist system means we are all born into exploiting others and being expolited ourselves.

We don't have complete freedom certainly and we are stuck here for now. Beyond that- it's picking the lesser of the evils unfortunately. Afraid of abandonment? Don't form close connections. Don't rely on people. Afraid of loneliness? Risk forming connections but maybe try and form lots of them and realise that none are 100% permanent and you may have to form more. Feel bad about eating animals? Then- become vegetarian/ vegan. You DO have the power to make some choices to lessen your pain.

If we were actually more able to let go in our culture, we might be having an easier time of it. Ironically, I think part of 'our' problem is the kind of refusal to really acknowledge death. We aren't good at accepting that things we like aren't permanent. Plus- we're so full of self importance that we see it as all being so unjust. When- maybe it just is. As in- the major forces that affect our lives- life and death etc- don't do so to upset us! They just happen. This world wouldn't be able to sustain it if everything that was born never died- obviously!

Couples break up for all sorts of reasons. In some cases, it would be hell for one or both of them if they HAD to stay together! No one should have to stay in an abusive relationship because it would 'upset' the other person if they left. Should someone even HAVE to stay in a relationship if they simply don't really love the other person anymore? If either- or both of them have changed? The freedom to choose CERTAIN things in life can both cause harm and healing.

If you REALLY want a world where no one suffers- should choice even be a thing?!! Say two people fancy the same person. That person chooses one over the other and the person rejected gets hurt. Or- they choose both and both get hurt! People hurt one another all the time by using their freedom to choose.

All that said though- sure- some people are living terrible lives. For them- this must look like hell and it's awful. For others though, I imagine they are having a grand old time and it feels like heaven.
 
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Darkover

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Asides from your parents, do you REALLY believe someone malliciously did this to you? Did your parents even do it maliciously to watch you suffer?
i believe this happened by random chance, my parents never consider what kind of life i would have they was just enjoying themselves that result in me
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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i believe this happened by random chance, my parents never consider what kind of life i would have they was just enjoying themselves that result in me

Yeah- I reckon it's the same with most parents. I wish they could have been shown a glimpse of us now...
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,055
I certainly see existence as being so hellish, it's truly hellish how existence has caused so much endless suffering to be experienced so unnecessarily all for the sake of it. And I just think that having the ability to exist is really something so terrible and futile, all that's inevitable for humans is even more suffering, decay and loss, I see existing as just being a process of slowly dying.
 
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Homo erectus

Homo erectus

Mage
Mar 7, 2023
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I think in some myths they say in hell people are punished to do the same task repeatedly. I can't remember which culture or religion it is, but it sounds like it is mocking this world.
 
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Archness

Defective Personel
Jan 20, 2023
506
The ratio of "good" and "bad", even from an objective point, I don't really care about. It's just pointless and empty. Even choosing the path of suffering, the "noble" path, it'd still suck as it's worth nothing but being a tool for others now, with no benefit, all same, just now /w hardship.
 
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𖣂𖣂𖣂.

𖣂𖣂𖣂.

𖣂
May 26, 2023
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we are actually living in hell. because just look at this whole thing. We are being tortured in various ways, every positive thing that happens wasn't actually positive it was a form a torture in the long run. For example say u have a girlfriend u love, one day what's gonna happen is either u break up or she dies. All that positive u experienced will bite u in the ass because it will only make this loss more substantial. Being born we are guaranteed to experience the loss of the ones that brought us here, the emotional connection we formed through our entire life is gonna torture us when the moment arises. Just look at the whole idea of life, we have to go to school, then find a job work it for 50 years. Doesn't this sound like torture to u. All the injustice and pain make sense if this world is hell. All these religions talking about a loving creator are all false because this world is only about suffering.

Most of the time I feel like a literal walking dead or vampire because of the fact that I have to devour and consume other forms of life to stay alive, but it doesn't feel like this is truly living. I feel like if someone was truly living they would also be completely free, but we'll never know any kind of freedom in this flesh prison we call a body.
Life is just a big illusion whatever you want to call it a video game, simulation,hell. Regardless we are all gonna experience the same process when we go. But people are so blind giving this false thing to look up too or temporary happiness which will always have the same outcome.
 
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