Warning to people in the UK who have bought sn

[Jumper Geo]

Oh dear not good

They will threaten you with contacting the mental health team to visit you, I will say that's a first I have been trying to contact them for the last 6 months that's why I'm suicidal.

 

[Mm80]

I ordered mine on the 24th Feb from a UK supplier it arrived a few days later, I went to leave a review and they were gone so I will expect a knock on the door, can't wait for them to get a search warrant.

Yes I think I ordered from the same seller and they don't sell it anymore. Sad for UK buyers.

 

[jgm63]

I bought sn back in September from a famous auction website.
Today I had a visit from the police. They said they had had a phone call from police Scotland, (I'm Midlands, England), who were investigating someone selling sn and my details had come up. Basically it was a welfare check and wanted my sn. Fortunately I have 3 tubs hidden in different places , so gave them 1. They threatened to call an ambulance and have me assessed, but I explained I'd bought it in September so they said they would be in touch with mental health services and to expect a call/visit.
So just be wary, I bought it in September!

Did you order from the eastern europe seller ?

 

[Mm80]

did you turn over your bleach, charcoal, cooking knives, shoe laces, belt?

I mean the USA is pretty cucked but give me a fucking break already.

Exactly. It's not illegal to buy or possess it and As far as I'm aware if you tell them you no longer have it or refuse to give it to them what can they actually do? Nothing. It's probably just a box ticking exercise on their part as if they didn't do anything they would come under criticism. No laws have been broken

 

[ctbUniquectb]

can't wait for (the police) to get a search warrant.

you don't have to let (the police) in do you?

(The police) need a search warrant to enter and search your home ...

I am not an attorney, nor am I in the UK, but the laws there and here have many parallels. Be careful with this. There are a lot of exceptions cut into your protections from searches and seizures when it comes to welfare checks.

... make sure you hide it well

They'll find whatever they're looking for, if they get into your place.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Yes I think I ordered from the same seller and they don't sell it anymore. Sad for UK buyers.

It's really easy to get I was over the butchers, meat market and said about SN and he raised a huge bag of it and said do you want some, I just laughed as I was panic searching online as it's getting harder to obtain but a 5 minute walk away and hey presto there's tons of it.

 

[Travis Pickle]

I ordered mine on the 24th Feb from a UK supplier it arrived a few days later, I went to leave a review and they were gone so I will expect a knock on the door, can't wait for them to get a search warrant.

Damn, I missed the boat! I was going to buy from that same seller (£9.80, 100% feedback, user/seller name that rhymes with 'hunter'). His SN listing vanished and reappeared a few time over the weeks and he appeared to be the only UK seller of it on 'that' auction site. It's my guess the police have traced at least one SN suicide/attempt back to products sold by himself, contacted him and asked for/demanded a list of persons he's sold it to. So I'd imagine the law will be in touch, just tell 'em you flushed it. I wonder how many sales of SN that seller had and if he had any inclination of what it's intended use was (presumably not).

 

[ctbUniquectb]

Exactly. It's not illegal to buy or possess it and As far as I'm aware if you tell them you no longer have it or refuse to give it to them what can they actually do? Nothing.

Once again: I'm not an attorney or in the UK, so I don't know what they can do. I'm generally not one to lie to the police, through. That goes poorly Stateside.

It's probably just a box ticking exercise on their part

This much, I will say with confidence: you are absolutely correct that they are just going through the motions. Though, from time to time, if someone successfully suicides and the local news gives a shit, then a random officer will catch hell briefly.

 

[Mm80]

It's really easy to get I was over the butchers, meat market and said about SN and he raised a huge bag of it and said do you want some, I just laughed as I was panic searching online as it's getting harder to obtain but a 5 minute walk away and hey presto there's tons of it.

Maybe you could privately share the butchers details lol. He would be baffled. People from all over the UK travelling to see him. No I think word is spreading about its use for ctb and restrictions as to who it's sold to may come in sadly.

It's really easy to get I was over the butchers, meat market and said about SN and he raised a huge bag of it and said do you want some, I just laughed as I was panic searching online as it's getting harder to obtain but a 5 minute walk away and hey presto there's tons of it.

Maybe you could privately share the butchers details lol. He would be baffled. People from all over the UK travelling to see him. No I think word is spreading about its use for ctb and restrictions as to who it's sold to may come in sadly.

Damn, I missed the boat! I was going to buy from that same seller (£9.80, 100% feedback, user/seller name that rhymes with 'hunter'). His SN listing vanished and reappeared a few time over the weeks and he appeared to be the only UK seller of it on 'that' auction site. It's my guess the police have traced at least one SN suicide/attempt back to products sold by himself, contacted him and asked for/demanded a list of persons he's sold it to. So I'd imagine the law will be in touch, just tell 'em you flushed it. I wonder how many sales of SN that seller had and if he had any inclination of what it's intended use was (presumably not).

That's who I bought mine from. They are more than welcome to call round. I'll even make them a cup of tea, on the premise that no illegal activity has taken place and my bedroom is out of bounds lol

 

[Roger]

@Roger, does SN's status in the UK allow police to confiscate it and have people hospitalised against their will just for owning it?

Damn.

There is no specific statute allowing police to do that, but there would effectively and practically be nothing to stop a police officer seizing it. He/she simply has to say that he reasonably believed that your possession constituted a danger to life. English law recognises duress/necessity as a defence.

They can only detain you without warrant under the Mental Health Act if you are acting dangerously towards yourself in a public place (usually defined as any place to which the public have access either freely or on payment. ) If they wish to enter a home in order to detain you for your own safety, then they must have a warrant. They should try and take you to a suitable hospital, but are only obliged to take you to a "place of safety" which can be a cell in a police station.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Damn, I missed the boat! I was going to buy from that same seller (£9.80, 100% feedback, user/seller name that rhymes with 'hunter'). His SN listing vanished and reappeared a few time over the weeks and he appeared to be the only UK seller of it on 'that' auction site. It's my guess the police have traced at least one SN suicide/attempt back to products sold by himself, contacted him and asked for/demanded a list of persons he's sold it to. So I'd imagine the law will be in touch, just tell 'em you flushed it. I wonder how many sales of SN that seller had and if he had any inclination of what it's intended use was (presumably not).

Maybe you could privately share the butchers details lol. He would be baffled. People from all over the UK travelling to see him. No I think word is spreading about its use for ctb and restrictions as to who it's sold to may come in sadly.

Maybe you could privately share the butchers details lol. He would be baffled. People from all over the UK travelling to see him. No I think word is spreading about its use for ctb and restrictions as to who it's sold to may come in sadly.

It was quite funny yesterday, I was on the same subject so I copied the picture and details but before posting I doubled checked it looked OK and the link wouldn't work but when I clicked it, my home address appeared, haha, really happy of that preview button.

 

[overandout]

Exactly. It's not illegal to buy or possess it and As far as I'm aware if you tell them you no longer have it or refuse to give it to them what can they actually do? Nothing. It's probably just a box ticking exercise on their part as if they didn't do anything they would come under criticism. No laws have been broken

It is however listed as a poison and technically the public are not suppose to buy it without licence. I think as more deaths occur with SN, the more things will tighten up in the UK.

Supplying explosives precursors and poisons

www.gov.uk

 

[Mm80]

There is no specific statute allowing police to do that, but there would effectively and practically be nothing to stop a police officer seizing it. He/she simply has to say that he reasonably believed that your possession constituted a danger to life. English law recognises duress/necessity as a defence.

They can only detain you without warrant under the Mental Health Act if you are acting dangerously towards yourself in a public place (usually defined as any place to which the public have access either freely or on payment. ) If they wish to enter a home in order to detain you for your own safety, then they must have a warrant. They should try and take you to a suitable hospital, but are only obliged to take you to a "place of safety" which can be a cell in a police station.

Would they not need a warrant to search a property?

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I'm generally not one to lie to the police, through. That goes poorly Stateside.

You don't have to lie, you can claim your fourth amendment rights, and use them like a broken record if the police try to provoke you into arguing or otherwise manipulate you into doing what they want. There are lots of YouTube videos on how to do this, including citizen auditors who intentionally bait the police and walk away unscathed and unarrested.

I don't know what individual rights are in the UK but it would be good for anyone there to research so they don't get baited and manipulated by law enforcement. Perhaps there are citizen auditors there as well.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Would they not need a warrant to search a property?

Yes there was a case 4 weeks ago a women was suicidal and the police arrived but couldn't do nothing as she was in a hotel room so they couldn't force her they could only advise her and she killed herself the same night.

Would they not need a warrant to search a property?

Check out the link they couldn't search the hotel room or section her but I suppose the mental health laws could be updated but this was recent.

Grenfell hero found hanged in Cardiff hotel after police visit

Police officers left Dr Deborah Lamont alone after she tried to hang herself.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ctbUniquectb]

the police arrived but ... they couldn't force her they could only advise her and she killed herself the same night

Spoiler

 

[Mm80]

It is however listed as a poison and technically the public are not suppose to buy it without licence. I think as more deaths occur with SN, the more things will tighten up in the UK.

Supplying explosives precursors and poisons

www.gov.uk

Thanks that's a bit of an eye opener. Sn is listed as a reportable poison that's shouldn't be sold to the public, particularly in such a high concentration. I'm amazed this was being sold so publicly.

 

[to_rid_the_disease]

Wish you find the peace you seek for.

Thank you so much :-) just hope the SN doesn't get taken away before I can use it lol. I would be piiiiiiiiissssssseeed.

 

[Comfortably Numb]

Yes there was a case 4 weeks ago a women was suicidal and the police arrived but couldn't do nothing as she was in a hotel room so they couldn't force her they could only advise her and she killed herself the same night.

They could of sectioned her under a 135 warrant but probably couldn't contact a magistrate in time.

 

[ctbUniquectb]

They could of sectioned her under a 135 warrant but probably couldn't contact a magistrate in time.

Lucky woman

 

[Mm80]

Yes there was a case 4 weeks ago a women was suicidal and the police arrived but couldn't do nothing as she was in a hotel room so they couldn't force her they could only advise her and she killed herself the same night.


Check out the link they couldn't search the hotel room or section her but I suppose the mental health laws could be updated but this was recent.

Grenfell hero found hanged in Cardiff hotel after police visit

Police officers left Dr Deborah Lamont alone after she tried to hang herself.

www.bbc.co.uk

In fairness maybe she should have been sectioned on this occasion. There was evidence of an attempt in a hotel room. Hope she is at peace.

 

[Mr2005]

With my cavalier attitude towards life it didn't take long for that "oh fuck" to become "oh well"

 

[Jumper Geo]

In fairness maybe she should have been sectioned on this occasion. There was evidence of an attempt in a hotel room. Hope she is at peace.

I agree, she was obviously in distress as she was a doctor and could get better meds than we can get hold of.

 

[Mm80]

I agree, she was obviously in distress as she was a doctor and could get better meds that we can get hold of.

I'm glad she had the choice and wasn't sectioned as it said she had suffered long term depression and psychiatric wards don't help.

 

[Lostnotfound]

Thanks that's a bit of an eye opener. Sn is listed as a reportable poison that's shouldn't be sold to the public, particularly in such a high concentration. I'm amazed this was being sold so publicly.

Does this mean it will get stopped at customs for anyone shipping it into the uk?

 

[Jumper Geo]

Does this mean it will get stopped at customs for anyone shipping it into the uk?

TBH, It's such a small amount we need and the dogs are trained to sniff out more potent powders.

 

[Comfortably Numb]

Having read snippets of the coroners report from the media reporting. It appears the police didn't give two hoots. They would of been perfectly aware of the section 135 procedure but chose to give section 136 as their defence (bad judgement/indifference} so that poor woman was able to see her plan to completion. Shame on them !

 

[Lostnotfound]

TBH, It's such a small amount we need and the dogs are trained to sniff out more potent powders.

I need to order tomorrow and it looks like my best bet is a reshipping company to a mailbox address rather than my own address - well its my only option really but its going to take some negotiation to set it all up, and if it then gets stopped at customs I dont know that I would cope with that.

I need to order tomorrow and it looks like my best bet is a reshipping company to a mailbox address rather than my own address - well its my only option really but its going to take some negotiation to set it all up, and if it then gets stopped at customs I dont know that I would cope with that.

need to go to your butchers lol

 

[Mr2005]

I should be worried because I got it sent to my girlfriends house

 

[Comfortably Numb]

Just be mindful that due to this **FAKE** SS members from UK will start posting that they are getting paid and hope you will help them with a shipping address for immediate receipt of SN all for a nice handsome fee.

P.S. make sure you give them the account for the SS Royal Bank of Nigeria. ;-))

I need to order tomorrow and it looks like my best bet is a reshipping company to a mailbox address rather than my own address - well its my only option really but its going to take some negotiation to set it all up, and if it then gets stopped at customs I dont know that I would cope with that.

Really