Discussion Video in youtube about sanction suicide

[SorakaMein]

Why are they blaming sanction suicide for the death of their sons. Its their sons decision to end things

Honestly, sanction suicide is very helpful to me. I dont feel weird or alien at all. Because the people here thinks similarly like me.

Just sharing.

 

[hamvil]

Could not tell from the video the age of the person involved. I am very bad at guessing ages. My opinion may be unpopular but it really depends. There is a reason this web site ask for age when registering. If you are too young it is possible that it is not really your decision to end things but that the present situation feel just overwhelming. Such feeling usually pass with time growing up once the immediate problems are overcome. Not talking of course of terminal diseases of extreme medical conditions. That said in some case being older 18 does not make you adult or able to give consent. Several problems you feel around 25yo that make you think you want to suicide fade away with time and with property treatment it is possible to save a person. That said I tried to follow the video but it is too much filled with the usual crap that is difficult to judge the situation. They preferred to bash SS without actually doing inforrmation.

 

[Hollowillow]

Why are they blaming sanction suicide for the death of their sons. Its their sons decision to end things

Honestly, sanction suicide is very helpful to me. I dont feel weird or alien at all. Because the people here thinks similarly like me.

Just sharing.

I couldn't comment on the video so I'll do it here.

I'm a member of sanctionned suicide. I am suicidal because doctirs dismissed my intense pain as "just in my head". The suicide hotline refuse to listen & only send cops. The psych ward don't do therapy, they ignore you with disdain and laugh together while you cry. I get banned or cops called everytime I say that I can't bear the pain & criminal abuses anymore & just want to die. Only force, no compassion. During covid I was deprived of life, deshumanized & beaten for being too sick to be able to get vaxed & wear a mask. When I got beaten so hard that my kegs were covered in blood, the cops said I deserved it. I tried to kill myself 5 times. Right after being met with cops & denied help to get groceries because I was too sick to get out. They let me starve because all they cared about was suicide. They threatened to take me to court if I call for help for "no reason" but someone else sent them against my will. There is no help. Only shame. And drugs with side effect such as psychosis & suicidal urges. Worse than usrless help. I get banned on reddit because I want to talk about suicide as a relief from pain, not as a defective brain crazy talk to be corrected by force.

It was extremely gard to find sanctionned suicide, because it's not a sub group in the main social media but a separate site, and search engines are full of pro life propaganda, telling me to call the hotline so they can send the cops & lock me up without a trial. It makes us want to die more. When I arrived at sanctionned suicide, my plan was to hang myself. Instead to tell me not to do it, that life is magic, to pray jesus... I FINALLY had a serious discussion about suicide. I was told that if I hang myself as planned, I could end up fully paralyzed and mute. I was given an article with scary photos. Was told not to die on impulse and to research properly. (As long as you research you are still alive.) I looked into partial hanging. Now I look into SN, not because the site forced me to. But because it seems more peaceful than my plan & less crippling if I fail. Easier to save me. I would have killed or mutilated myself by now without the loving support of members here. I'm here more and more because I suffer offline and gave up asking for help because I only get blames, ridicule & threats. I'm sadder because of what people do to me offline. I come to sanctionned suicide more because they comfort me, they give me friendship, they understand the pain, instead to tell me that I deserve to suffer to get rid of me. The mother spoke about ger dead son as if he was a happy 6 years old then we broke him with bullying and made him kill himself. He was an old adult! You must want to die BEFORE coming here to find us. She probably didn't let him go out to see his friends & made him sleep with a mask because she "cares" so much. Not doing shit to cheer him up while she knew he was depressed. She went along with the government destroying our right to live free over a flu, purely by being control freaks. Crushing the life & souls & freedom out of people. Then blaming the internet, games, tv, demons... Instead to admit that she never bothered to hug & listen to her son for months. WE DID! We heard his wish to die & helped him not do it in a way that'd make his life worse. Knowledge is power. We gave him power. We gave him compassion. If he still wanted to die after all the love we give, then his life was unbearable. I blame his environment, parents, school, government. Even the kids who wanted to help each other were forced not to. To stay alone and thonk how svary dying of vovid would be. Well people would rather DIE than live in fear, than stop living. We understand that. There are things worse than death. SS is not one of them. Being infantilized by our mother as an adult can be soul crushing. If she cared so much she should have said so while she still could. Suicide is like abortions. You can try to make it illegal & hide safe ways to do it. People will just use brutal ways instead. You just prolonging the agony with no alternative solution. And that pushes people to die. I found SS thanks to an article saying how evil it is. And there I finally found the compassion that social services denied me.

Could not tell from the video the age of the person involved. I am very bad at guessing ages. My opinion may be unpopular but it really depends. There is a reason this web site ask for age when registering. If you are too young it is possible that it is not really your decision to end things but that the present situation feel just overwhelming. Such feeling usually pass with time growing up once the immediate problems are overcome. Not talking of course of terminal diseases of extreme medical conditions. That said in some case being older 18 does not make you adult or able to give consent. Several problems you feel around 25yo that make you think you want to suicide fade away with time and with property treatment it is possible to save a person. That said I tried to follow the video but it is too much filled with the usual crap that is difficult to judge the situation. They preferred to bash SS without actually doing inforrmation.

I tried to die at 11 after bullying turned into s3xual abuse. Cops called me a liar. Mother wanted to have an abortion.

Then it kept getting worse

 

[Shrike94]

blaming the site instead of the government that locked down and isolated people for no reason. government is criminal murderers. Also by mentioning the site they are basically giving free advertising. They want people to know about the site. The video seems overly dramatic and sensationalistic.

 

[hamvil]

blaming the site instead of the government that locked down and isolated people for no reason. government is criminal murderers. Also by mentioning the site they are basically giving free advertising. They want people to know about the site. The video seems overly dramatic and sensationalistic.

Govs cannot basically officially acknowledge that some people are not treatable. It would put a crack in the official perfect vision that must be perpetuated. The result is that anything that goes again mainstreaming has to be put down. Gov, meaning the health sector, should provide real care for people in vulnerable age that can be still saved. Care is not just therapy but also PREVENTION I do not see enough done for bullying and harassment, for family violence (I am a victim of this myself, adults would see me being beaten and would do nothing because they assume it was parenting), and other trauma generating behaviors. I would support suicide for young people or young adults in terminal conditions because there is not need to inflict pain.

That after a certain age some conditions are just set to stay and gov should understand that this is also a possibility. Lots of projects fail, building, software development, etc why we should not accept that also therapy and similar can also fail because people are beyond treatment and let them make their choice when they are old enough?

It was extremely gard to find sanctionned suicide, because it's not a sub group in the main social media but a separate site, and search engines are full of pro life propaganda, telling me to call the hotline so they can send the cops & lock me up without a trial. It makes us want to die more. When I arrived at sanctionned suicide, my plan was to hang myself. Instead to tell me not to do it, that life is magic, to pray jesus... I FINALLY had a serious discussion about suicide. I was told that if I hang myself as planned, I could end up fully paralyzed and mute. I was given an article with scary photos. Was told not to die on impulse and to research properly. (As long as you research you are still alive.) I looked into partial hanging. Now I look into SN, not because the site forced me to. But because it seems more peaceful than my plan & less crippling if I fail. Easier to save me. I would have killed or mutilated myself by now without the loving support of members here. I'm here more and more because I suffer offline and gave up asking for help because I only get blames, ridicule & threats. I'm sadder because of what people do to me offline. I come to sanctionned suicide more because they comfort me, they give me friendship, they understand the pain, instead to tell me that I deserve to suffer to get rid of me. The mother spoke about ger dead son as if he was a happy 6 years old then we broke him with bullying and made him kill himself. He was an old adult! You must want to die BEFORE coming here to find us. She probably didn't let him go out to see his friends & made him sleep with a mask because she "cares" so much. Not doing shit to cheer him up while she knew he was depressed. She went along with the government destroying our right to live free over a flu, purely by being control freaks. Crushing the life & souls & freedom out of people. Then blaming the internet, games, tv, demons... Instead to admit that she never bothered to hug & listen to her son for months. WE DID! We heard his wish to die & helped him not do it in a way that'd make his life worse. Knowledge is power. We gave him power. We gave him compassion. If he still wanted to die after all the love we give, then his life was unbearable. I blame his environment, parents, school, government. Even the kids who wanted to help each other were forced not to. To stay alone and thonk how svary dying of vovid would be. Well people would rather DIE than live in fear, than stop living. We understand that. There are things worse than death. SS is not one of them. Being infantilized by our mother as an adult can be soul crushing. If she cared so much she should have said so while she still could. Suicide is like abortions. You can try to make it illegal & hide safe ways to do it. People will just use brutal ways instead. You just prolonging the agony with no alternative solution. And that pushes people to die. I found SS thanks to an article saying how evil it is. And there I finally found the compassion that social services denied me.

+1 on this.

I tried to die at 11 after bullying turned into s3xual abuse. Cops called me a liar. Mother wanted to have an abortion.

Sorry to hear this, I remember it from another post. Bullies should have been put in rehab is too young TOGETHER with their parents. Bullies are typically the result of an unhealthy family situation. Maybe they should have been removed from the family even. I am gonna say something that could make you upset. At 11 the way to address this is to help the kid move forward and recover from the trauma, there are still infinite opportunities in from of an 11yo kid and infinite chance of recovery. Did not get the part about abortion. You mean your mother wanted to abort you years ago? If so I got the same sentences in my childhood.

Then it kept getting worse

Then in some situation it really get worse with time and I think at some point and for sure at 42 we should be free to call it a day and move forward on our own terms. Take care.

 

[freedompass]

Why are they blaming sanction suicide for the death of their sons. Its their sons decision to end things

Honestly, sanction suicide is very helpful to me. I dont feel weird or alien at all. Because the people here thinks similarly like me.

Just sharing.

Demonising a website, like you can't research pretty much anything online if you know where to look. Sensationalist reporting, kneejerk prolife reactions, they are just scandalised at the notion that anyone should have the freedom to live or die. Names that are crossed out here are not always someone dying. Often that person has simply chosen to leave the site by requesting a ban. But they want to play up how sinister this is. It is transparent how they play on the audience's fears like all the worst 'news' media.

Obviously these are grieving mothers and as such deserve compassion but offering them a convenient scapegoat is not the way to go. Why not check out this sinister place for yourself, oh nope why bother doing your own research when you can be told what to think based on nothing but ignorance and prejudice.

In my estimation this website should not need to exist. In a perfect world people would not feel hounded to death! Honour your children's memory by volunteering to improve awareness and genuine help available for those like them, rather than take the no brain approach of blaming a website that offers information and promotes choice.

 

[madiroze]

The authorities won't bother trying to shut down this site as most people are not savvy enough to find it.

They only care if there is a sudden mass or mainstream appeal then they start to worry about a "herd mentality" and how it could snowball.

For example, if there is a social media personality with controversial opinions who remains on the fringe and his/her impact is limited to a small group of people then they can thrive online without censorship but once they start to gain a large traction of followers - particularly those in an impressionable age group - only then do you see a crackdown. Think Andrew Tate.

I would guess this site attracts less than 1% of all people globally who do eventually CTB.

 

[FuneralCry]

There is not that much point for me watching the video. I can only imagine what it must be saying and anything pro life only makes me feel much worse.
If someone is desperate to die then they will find a way no matter what, people would still find ways to ctb even if the internet no longer existed.
As long as human life exists suicide will be a thing, as it's a way to gain control over a life that we never asked for and there is nothing wrong with that. If someone wants to leave this world then they have a right to do so and it's nothing to do with anyone else. Removing suicide method information and resources will just mean that people will resort to more risky methods. I just hate how we live in a world that makes suicide so unnecessarily complicated and difficult for people, we will all die anyway eventually so there really isn't any reason to make death so unnecessarily horrible.
But a lot of pro lifers are very ignorant and delusional. They must be to think that it's beneficial trying to force people to suffer in lives that they never asked for.

 

[theboy]

RIP Michael

 

[Lifeaballache]

It's always parents who are in denial. It's easy to scapegoat a website.

A bit like the case of the boy who killed himself in the UK earlier this year by hanging and the mum tried to blame it as a TIK TOK challenge because she coudnt accept he wanted to kill himself.

 

[coyotestark]

I am deeply and sincerely sorry about what happened to the adult children of these two women. That being said, and I completely and totally speak for myself, I don't give a fuck about the guilt of others. I have reached out to a number of people that are allegedly close to me and have told them what I am going to do in no uncertain terms. The only response I received is 'how will that make others feel?' what about how I feel? People tend to make everything about themselves in an attempt to shift blame and alleviate guilt, in my experience. And I may be wrong, but that's how these two women come off to me, they feel guilty and we're looking for a place to put the blame. They should be looking in the mirror, not attacking an internet forum.

 

[Mofreeko]

I'll bet the parents were all gung-ho about the lockdowns, which are responsible for far more suicides and overdoses than this site ever could be.

 

[akirat9]

not care about any of, site help me get sn, IC a definitive way to die besides firearm messy, train tracks, jumping bridge, at least no be bloody mess when I die. or do they prefer that instead ?