Verification of goodbye threads

[papulin]

I have come across a number of threads where someone is typing as they CTB - perhaps they are just documenting their last moments, or wanting to say goodbye. These are very emotional for me to read, and to see the comments from others.

Sometimes, I see there is a 'Last Seen' on the handles of the users that suggests they were online after they posted their final goodbye. This could be for many innocuous reasons, i.e., someone discovers the phone and turns it on, etc.

But I can't help escape the suspicion there are folks on this forum with less than pure intentions, however, who might 'mock up' a goodbye thread for a number of sadistic reasons, for example, to give seeming 'permission' to others contemplating CTB. I think this is really bad, and there seems to be no rules or guidelines to prevent this.

Just wanted to throw this out there. Many times, people post under a handle they've used a lot, so it is really sad to see a member of the community leave. But many other times (including a recent one), it's a brand new handle, etc. and I can help but wonder if it's genuine. And if it's not, that's really, really wrong and harmful.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I've noticed quite a few goodbye posts from users with less than 20 posts. Some could be genuine, but it seems kinda sus to me. There are a lot of attention seekers here.

 

[Weebster]

Maybe they're saying goodbye to the site and dying in a digital sense.

 

[Dot]

= dffclt bcse sme ppl wll jst gt wht thy nd & c.t.b w/o hangng arnd 2 mch

Thre wll b fraudlnt ppl on sasu fr sre thgh

 

[FuneralCry]

We just don't know and that is just the way that things are. All we see is words on the internet. You cannot trust people in general, but in my opinion it is not a good idea saying that things are suspicious because as I said, we do not really know. It would be very insensitive calling a genuine goodbye thread suspicious. But as the user said above, some people come here for methods and just leave. Just because there is a low post count doesn't mean it is suspicious. I envy the courage of those that left, I envy all dead people and I wish that I was gone.

 

[depressedmaniac]

Its a public forum on the internet. So of course there are alot of ppl making goodbye threads or threads in general just for attention or for whatever reason. I think questioning the things you read or hear is always sth smart to do. cant give much advice. I guess if you find it upsetting its best not to read goodbye threads cuz no way to know what that person is up to.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

WFT?

Their profile tells you why they type like that...

 

[TheBroken]

Their profile tells you why they type like that...

It wasn't actually a criticism, if anything it was more novel.

 

[Foresight]

It's a possibility. If a user you barely know anything about posting a goodbye thread is all you need to end your life you're probably past the tipping point. I don't think it occurs with most and I think goodbye threads are important for a number of reasons.

The nastiest thing I've seen here was the girl dying and people calling bullshit and harrassing her as she died. Better to play it safe and be respectful of "goodbye" type threads. They're a bit natural given the nature of the site.

 

[CannotAnymore]

I have come across a number of threads where someone is typing as they CTB - perhaps they are just documenting their last moments, or wanting to say goodbye. These are very emotional for me to read, and to see the comments from others.

Sometimes, I see there is a 'Last Seen' on the handles of the users that suggests they were online after they posted their final goodbye. This could be for many innocuous reasons, i.e., someone discovers the phone and turns it on, etc.

But I can't help escape the suspicion there are folks on this forum with less than pure intentions, however, who might 'mock up' a goodbye thread for a number of sadistic reasons, for example, to give seeming 'permission' to others contemplating CTB. I think this is really bad, and there seems to be no rules or guidelines to prevent this.

Just wanted to throw this out there. Many times, people post under a handle they've used a lot, so it is really sad to see a member of the community leave. But many other times (including a recent one), it's a brand new handle, etc. and I can help but wonder if it's genuine. And if it's not, that's really, really wrong and harmful.

But see, you are making someone elses ctb about you. It's a forum with 100% anonymity and there are people out there who get off on the attention.

It's a part of being on a site like this. Unfortunately in society there isn't a place where we can get together online as 'real' people without being called a cult or being arrested or locked up because for people who don't understand that's what we are... a group of psychopaths encouraging children to kill themselves....... But that's not what this is at all, I am a real person, a very real person with very real feelings and this is the first place I've come to where I've felt supported.

There are people who will scam the most hurt, the most depressed, the most lonely out of their final dollar, just because they can. There are people with 'less than pure intentions' everywhere.

I am sure most of us could probably hang around a little longer if we just had some real friends and real support in life.

 

[Releasefrompressure]

I've noticed quite a few goodbye posts from users with less than 20 posts. Some could be genuine, but it seems kinda sus to me. There are a lot of attention seekers here.

I think the opposite. New people who join. Find info on method, then ctb in short period of time are most likely to be genuine.

 

[shrek34]

I think the opposite. New people who join. Find info on method, then ctb in short period of time are most likely to be genuine.

But I find it strange why people would want to make a goodbye post when they have barely interacted with the community. Of course there's nothing wrong with that but I wouldn't want to say goodbye to a group of strangers that I've never talked to on the site.

 

[Foresight]

But I find it strange why people would want to make a goodbye post when they have barely interacted with the community. Of course there's nothing wrong with that but I wouldn't want to say goodbye to a group of strangers that I've never talked to on the site.

I've often seen it stated that they were lurkers. And maybe people don't want to get into it but want to say goodbye to the world? Makes sense to me. A lot of people die with medical workers they barely know by their side, and even that's a comfort. It's human.

 

[its-about-time]

Its a public forum on the internet. So of course there are alot of ppl making goodbye threads or threads in general just for attention or for whatever reason. I think questioning the things you read or hear is always sth smart to do. cant give much advice. I guess if you find it upsetting its best not to read goodbye threads cuz no way to know what that person is up to.

Agreed. It's the internet. Take everything with a grain of salt and trust your gut. Some are fake, others are real. I don't find it worthwhile to think too hard on it, and it would be (and has been) a slippery slope to try to call people out in the middle of such threads, I just leave most of them alone unless I am quite familiar with the user.

 

[Idontmatter]

I'll be doing a goodbye thread but it will definitely be real in July. If I back out I'll say it. Will be trying to document my sn process while I can.

 

[Doombox]

I won't do a goodbye thread because it's not my style. I agree that for those that seem to come out of nowhere to write goodbye threads it's much better to assume they are telling the truth and either ignore the thread if it bugs you or just write a couple words wishing them well. I saw the thread @Foresight mentioned and the attacking and challenging that took place there not only could have resulted in someone dying while upset but apparently got two members banned. So just don't go there.
Edit: And for accounts that seem to log in after the goodbye thread, who knows? Could be a family member or even authorities.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

But I find it strange why people would want to make a goodbye post when they have barely interacted with the community. Of course there's nothing wrong with that but I wouldn't want to say goodbye to a group of strangers that I've never talked to on the site.

Agreed. That's why I think it's a little weird when I see those posts.

 

[Idontmatter]

I won't do a goodbye thread because it's not my style. I agree that for those that seem to come out of nowhere to write goodbye threads it's much better to assume they are telling the truth and either ignore the thread if it bugs you or just write a couple words wishing them well. I saw the thread @Foresight mentioned and the attacking and challenging that took place there not only could have resulted in someone dying while upset but apparently got two members banned. So just don't go

Agreed. That's why I think it's a little weird when I see those posts.

Good points. Maybe I won't. Plus I need to clear out my phone anyway.

 

[papulin]

But see, you are making someone elses ctb about you. It's a forum with 100% anonymity and there are people out there who get off on the attention.

It's a part of being on a site like this. Unfortunately in society there isn't a place where we can get together online as 'real' people without being called a cult or being arrested or locked up because for people who don't understand that's what we are... a group of psychopaths encouraging children to kill themselves....... But that's not what this is at all, I am a real person, a very real person with very real feelings and this is the first place I've come to where I've felt supported.

There are people who will scam the most hurt, the most depressed, the most lonely out of their final dollar, just because they can. There are people with 'less than pure intentions' everywhere.

I am sure most of us could probably hang around a little longer if we just had some real friends and real support in life.

Thanks. It's not just about me. It's about the community. If someone's fake CTB post influences someone else's actual CTB decision-making, I think that's pretty terrible and I don't have the solution, but I thought others' might have ideas about how prevalent this is and if so, how to deal with it as a community.
We are a community, btw, of hurting, despairing people. We find solace with each other.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

I have found obituaries of people from this site. It is always shocking and very tragic, especially when you wish it weren't true. You never know about the people who make one or two posts and then announce their departure.

Situations like that could be someone trolling, a bad actor trying to taunt others into saying something that could potentially be deemed incriminating in the eyes of certain people, or simply a quiet individual who did not have much to say and simply accessed the site for information and didn't have much of a need to use it consistently.

I always hope that some people who post goodbye threads aren't actually gone, but it's quite gutting when you have their contact information elsewhere and encounter total radio silence, or a last online date that was weeks ago, then months, then years.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I probably won't do a goodbye thread. I'd feel silly making one and not going through with it. Plus I don't think anyone really cares if I leave

 

[Shu]

None of us really know unless you have found an obituary. Sometime the mods find out because the family will contact them (the mods) asking for the account to be deleted. At the end we will never know.

 

[Doombox]

I probably won't do a goodbye thread. I'd feel silly making one and not going through with it. Plus I don't think anyone really cares if I leave

Those are my reasons, too.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

None of us really know unless you have found an obituary. Sometime the mods find out because the family will contact them (the mods) asking for the account to be deleted. At the end we will never know.

My family doesn't even know a site like this exists o:

 

[Shu]

My family doesn't even know a site like this exists o:

Most families don't unless they came across that NYT article.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

I hope to keep it that way. I don't need the site owner(s) blamed for what I do. If anything, they should be praised for giving us a safe space.

 

[Dizzylady80]

Could be people who attempted and failed, but were ashamed and didn't post afterwards but still wanted to look at the site

 

[Ashu]

But I find it strange why people would want to make a goodbye post when they have barely interacted with the community. Of course there's nothing wrong with that but I wouldn't want to say goodbye to a group of strangers that I've never talked to on the site.

I can understand it. I felt close to everyone on this site as soon as I'd discovered it.

Thanks. It's not just about me. It's about the community. If someone's fake CTB post influences someone else's actual CTB decision-making, I think that's pretty terrible and I don't have the solution, but I thought others' might have ideas about how prevalent this is and if so, how to deal with it as a community.
We are a community, btw, of hurting, despairing people. We find solace with each other.

So if it's impossible to tell whether a goodbye thread is genuine or not just by reading it... wouldn't it be better for all of us just not to make an issue of this?

 

[onlyanimalsaregood]

So if it's impossible to tell whether a goodbye thread is genuine or not just by reading it... wouldn't it be better for all of us just not to make an issue of this?

Yeah, I agree. This is a tricky subject. Most of the time we really have no way of knowing the truth. So the only thing we can do is to use common sense and our intuition. And in case of suspicion, it's best to ignore it.

I always hope that some people who post goodbye threads aren't actually gone

I liked it too. I miss a person who ctb. It's hard to deal with.

 

[Forever Sleep]

But I find it strange why people would want to make a goodbye post when they have barely interacted with the community. Of course there's nothing wrong with that but I wouldn't want to say goodbye to a group of strangers that I've never talked to on the site.

I guess you could well be right. I suppose there are trolls everywhere and those looking for the most reaction are going to be drawn to a site like this. Still, like other people have said, there's no real way of knowing. I was horrified to hear that a 'goodbye post' by a user was mocked in real time.

I think the idea of saying goodbye to complete strangers isn't all that odd in a way. Personally, I'm not sure I'll ever find the courage or get the means to ctb- I'm a complete coward, so want something painless- which seems to be 'N'. Still, if I were to do it, I wouldn't want to tell any of my friends or family. I wouldn't want anyone to try to stop me. Still, I've found a strange comfort in the 'goodbye' posts- that they weren't entirely alone when they passed.

It's actually been a whole range of emotions- sadness that they were suffering enough to be at that point, almost admiration that they had obtained and were willing to use the means to do it, fear that their attempt may not work and leave them worse off, relief if the attempt they made appeared to have worked for them and even envy that their struggle was over and that I need more courage to end mine.