I

I'm exhausted

Living in constant fear. I need cats!!
Jul 12, 2019
596
I wish I can help you to reassure but unfortunately I can't. I understand the worry that stems from this uncertainty but truth be told, almost all suicide methods have some failed stories. Life is a b**** when it comes to uncertainty. If it were in my case, if I couldn't die from my method of CTB no matter how fail proof I make it, I may take it as I'm meant to live or use another method.

I'm sorry I couldn't be more of a help.
 
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
I feel sort of like I am playing the odds to an extent, knowing the LD50 according to LAH that it's 60x50mg tablets, I have 320x25mg meaning close to 3 times the dose when you simplify the fractions.

Reading more from NIH: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11204550, saying the occurance of dellirium and hallucinations remain the same if not decrease with doses higher than 1.5g's (roughly a 5th of the dose I have) and that somnolence occurs in about 54-60% of people meaning I could simply bypass all the nasty stuff. If anyone has feedback I am happy to hear it at this point
 
less than

less than

not important
Jul 25, 2019
195
If you have any doubts or second thoughts then you should overthink your plan. Please be careful with yourself even if you want to ctb.
 
R

realjunes

Warlock
Oct 1, 2019
730
Anyone hear from TiredAndReadyToGo since Sunday, I think he had the room booked through Sunday morning, so I
wonder about how he is.
 
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
I'm still here, took a small amount of diphen powder, about 3 pills worth to see how it would effect me, put me to sleep once I stopped fighting it. (Tasted like garbage but tolerable) Hoping for the same once I take my massive dose tonight. Gonna be taking my big meto dose at about 6:30 tonight and then start prepping my yogurt and powder after I take it then wait a few and start drinking. Will be posting an update once I take my meto. Sorry about the delayed response, the benadryl knocked me for 11 hours
 
  • Hugs
Reactions: Nem
R

realjunes

Warlock
Oct 1, 2019
730
I'm still here, took a small amount of diphen powder, about 3 pills worth to see how it would effect me, put me to sleep once I stopped fighting it. (Tasted like garbage but tolerable) Hoping for the same once I take my massive dose tonight. Gonna be taking my big meto dose at about 6:30 tonight and then start prepping my yogurt and powder after I take it then wait a few and start drinking. Will be posting an update once I take my meto. Sorry about the delayed response, the benadryl knocked me for 11 hours

No problem. What you did seems like it was a good idea, to see how it worked and tasted. Did you have a drink
with your 3 pills, do you think that alcohol added to the effect that had you sleep so long. In any case,
glad to hear from you, several people asking about you.
 
J

jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
If you decide to proceed, then have a safe journey

:heart:
 
  • Love
Reactions: not-2-b-the-answer
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
If you decide to proceed, then have a safe journey

:heart:
Thanks JGM,
Plans have just been pushed out until tonight because I have been scared to face the process of dying but I think I am ready for that now. I won't be found until Wednesday as long as I don't alert anyone in near by rooms. I started my fast before my big meto dose about an hour ago. I picked up one last bottle of Diphen 100x25mg, just to help it move the process along (Totalling over 10g). I'm crushing up a few more but gonna take some pills as well. I'll be posting again before I take my Meto dose and will try to update as long as I can
 
  • Hugs
Reactions: Nem, Soul and not-2-b-the-answer
J

jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
Thanks JGM,
Plans have just been pushed out until tonight because I have been scared to face the process of dying but I think I am ready for that now. I won't be found until Wednesday as long as I don't alert anyone in near by rooms. I started my fast before my big meto dose about an hour ago. I picked up one last bottle of Diphen 100x25mg, just to help it move the process along (Totalling over 10g). I'm crushing up a few more but gonna take some pills as well. I'll be posting again before I take my Meto dose and will try to update as long as I can
Sure. Only you can decide what is the right timing and the right decision for you....
We support you in whatever you wish to do....

:heart:
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: Nem, TiredAndReadyToGo, not-2-b-the-answer and 1 other person
R

realjunes

Warlock
Oct 1, 2019
730
Sure. Only you can decide what is the right timing and the right decision for you....
We support you in whatever you wish to do....

:heart:
I echo jgm63's sentiments.
 
  • Love
Reactions: TiredAndReadyToGo, not-2-b-the-answer and jgm63
not-2-b-the-answer

not-2-b-the-answer

Archangel
Mar 23, 2018
9,238
I hope that you were able to find peace. :heart::hug::heart::hug::heart::hug::heart::hug:
I hope to see you soon on the other side. :heart:
 
  • Love
Reactions: TiredAndReadyToGo
J

jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
Continuing to wish you a safe journey if you decide to proceed.....

:heart:
 
  • Love
Reactions: TiredAndReadyToGo
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
Hey guys, just an update. I'm still around because I've been scared to do it even with the varying time frames, but I know rationally that things will in no way get better and I'm tired of feeling so different and alone.

As cliched as it sounds, I feel like my brain works in a different way than mosts do; I don't seem to have the ability to hold opinions on things, people, or situations, I just revert back to an almost neutral state when I approach things even just a day later. I am broke, unemployed, have no family, a singular friend, rent far over due, have hair falling out/coughed up blood phlemg (sorry if too much info) out of the blue recently, and can't seem to comfort myself which Infeel you should be able to do by your 20's.

Being in the hotel rooms for two weeks or so has really caused me to sort of forget about things temporarily if that makes sense to everyone else, a bubble outside of my own reality, ignoring the real world and simply not giving a shit. I know I can't do this forever and must step up and need to find that inner-courage to just accept what I am doing today, and keep it.

After crushing all the pills into powder, I tried to put it into apple sauce but there was way way way too much to mix it and get rid of the taste, powdery consistancy, or the colour (expected that last oart though). I went back into walmart and bought 280 pills and am just going to down them instead as meto will move them from my stomach hopefully faster than they can be ejected out. I'm sorry to everyone here, I feel like I have been stringing you all along to a certain extent by not being able to do this and I just wanted to apologize to everyone for that.

The hotel gave me a free night so this is my last chance and I need to, Carpe Diem, so let this day be the one and that I may seize the moments I need to be successful. I can't bare the thought of failing yet again, as I went back to try the NN method last night again (found the sweet spot with my fingers but couldn't replicate with the ratchet and rolled up socks), I just want it all to end/want to die and now the only thing that seems to be holding me back is finding a way to take the four piles I made of pills in less than 10 minutes (70 in each pile).

If anyone has advice on general bulk pill swallowing that would be useful but I don't want to pose anymore trouble onto the community so I understand if I don't get an answer on that.

I have reached the point of just not feeling for the most part and I think that's another reason for worry, I just feel like I'm left to only feel fear and anxiety but have become numb to the rest but that numbness has always been there inside creeping and growing since I was a kid. I just need to grow a proper pair and do this. Multiple sources I've read in med journals say it could be as short as 2 hours but could take up to 18, I can only hope for the 2 hour goal and that the Lord may guide me on this fucking horrifying journey. To clarify I don't think that death is horrifying just simply the means of achieving it/the process of dying, no matter how I get there.

I need something that once I do it, there is no turning back, it is simply one action then I go about whatever it is I want to do. Hopefully that will just be a final listen to some music I enjoy while I gently drift off into an unending slumber and I may enter a comatose state before I start convulsions and that I won't be conscious to feel my heart give out but I need to accept it might just happen. I don't worry as much about hallucinations any more as eventually I will just be blinded by the medication (another side effect).

Again I am sorry SS but thank you for your support, its been sent to a heart that's been long closed off but your words made it through the shield I put around it and truly resonate with me and made me feel like a person. It's helped me accept that I'm going to be catching the bus and feel some sort of human contact/compassion before I do it. I appreicate each and everyone of you and will be posting a proper goodbye once I take my final meto dose. You all have meant the world to me. I feel nothing but love for you all. Goodnight and God bless.
I hope that you were able to find peace. :heart::hug::heart::hug::heart::hug::heart::hug:
I hope to see you soon on the other side. :heart:

Thank you N2B, I hope I may meet you on the otherside and that goes to the rest of you as well but most importantly that you may get there in the way you want and in a way that doesn't pain you at all, like simply falling into a dream
Continuing to wish you a safe journey if you decide to proceed.....

:heart:

JGM the fact that you have been here since the beginning of my postings is more than I could ask for, consistany is the one thing I have been able to find natural comfort in so there aren't enough words brother

I echo jgm63's sentiments.

Junes, Thank you and the same that I have said for JGM applies to you as well you already know I'll have my eyes peeled once I cross over


To quote the great Frank Sinatra;
"You're riding high in April
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune
When I'm back on top, back on top in June"
...
"And I can't deny it
Many times I thought of cuttin' out but my heart won't buy it
But if there's nothing shakin' come here this July
I'm gonna roll myself up in a big ball and die"

I don't have a whole lot shaking this July nor the past few so it's time to roll myself up in a big ball and die

(Sorry for the long post guys, just had to get some stuff off my chest)
 
Last edited:
  • Hugs
Reactions: Nem, not-2-b-the-answer and Time
not-2-b-the-answer

not-2-b-the-answer

Archangel
Mar 23, 2018
9,238
Hey guys, just an update. I'm still around because I've been scared to do it even with the varying time frames, but I know rationally that things will in no way get better and I'm tired of feeling so different and alone.

As cliched as it sounds, I feel like my brain works in a different way than mosts do; I don't seem to have the ability to hold opinions on things, people, or situations, I just revert back to an almost neutral state when I approach things even just a day later. I am broke, unemployed, have no family, a singular friend, rent far over due, have hair falling out/coughed up blood phlemg (sorry if too much info) out of the blue recently, and can't seem to comfort myself which Infeel you should be able to do by your 20's.

Being in the hotel rooms for two weeks or so has really caused me to sort of forget about things temporarily if that makes sense to everyone else, a bubble outside of my own reality, ignoring the real world and simply not giving a shit. I know I can't do this forever and must step up and need to find that inner-courage to just accept what I am doing today, and keep it.

After crushing all the pills into powder, I tried to put it into apple sauce but there was way way way too much to mix it and get rid of the taste, powdery consistancy, or the colour (expected that last oart though). I went back into walmart and bought 280 pills and am just going to down them instead as meto will move them from my stomach hopefully faster than they can be ejected out. I'm sorry to everyone here, I feel like I have been stringing you all along to a certain extent by not being able to do this and I just wanted to apologize to everyone for that.

The hotel gave me a free night so this is my last chance and I need to, Carpe Diem, so let this day be the one and that I may seize the moments I need to be successful. I can't bare the thought of failing yet again, as I went back to try the NN method last night again (found the sweet spot with my fingers but couldn't replicate with the ratchet and rolled up socks), I just want it all to end/want to die and now the only thing that seems to be holding me back is finding a way to take the four piles I made of pills in less than 10 minutes (70 in each pile).

If anyone has advice on general bulk pill swallowing that would be useful but I don't want to pose anymore trouble onto the community so I understand if I don't get an answer on that.

I have reached the point of just not feeling for the most part and I think that's another reason for worry, I just feel like I'm left to only feel fear and anxiety but have become numb to the rest but that numbness has always been there inside creeping and growing since I was a kid. I just need to grow a proper pair and do this. Multiple sources I've read in med journals say it could be as short as 2 hours but could take up to 18, I can only hope for the 2 hour goal and that the Lord may guide me on this fucking horrifying journey. To clarify I don't think that death is horrifying just simply the means of achieving it/the process of dying, no matter how I get there.

I need something that once I do it, there is no turning back, it is simply one action then I go about whatever it is I want to do. Hopefully that will just be a final listen to some music I enjoy while I gently drift off into an unending slumber and I may enter a comatose state before I start convulsions and that I won't be conscious to feel my heart give out but I need to accept it might just happen. I don't worry as much about hallucinations any more as eventually I will just be blinded by the medication (another side effect).

Again I am sorry SS but thank you for your support, its been sent to a heart that's been long closed off but your words made it through the shield I put around it and truly resonate with me and made me feel like a person. It's helped me accept that I'm going to be catching the bus and feel some sort of human contact/compassion before I do it. I appreicate each and everyone of you and will be posting a proper goodbye once I take my final meto dose. You all have meant the world to me. I feel nothing but love for you all. Goodnight and God bless.


Thank you N2B, I hope I may meet you on the otherside and that goes to the rest of you as well but most importantly that you may get there in the way you want and in a way that doesn't pain you at all, like simply falling into a dream


JGM the fact that you have been here since the beginning of my postings is more than I could ask for, consistany is the one thing I have been able to find natural comfort in so there aren't enough words brother



Junes, Thank you and the same that I have said for JGM applies to you as well you already know I'll have my eyes peeled once I cross over
To quote the great Frank Sinatra;
"You're riding high in April
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune
When I'm back on top, back on top in June"
...
"And I can't deny it
Many times I thought of cuttin' out but my heart won't buy it
But if there's nothing shakin' come here this July
I'm gonna roll myself up in a big ball and die"

I don't have a whole lot shaking this July nor the past few so it's time to roll myself up in a big ball and die


I apologize for thinking you were successful in CTB. :hug: I can't really post enough hugs … but I wish you peace.
I'm sorry for also being selfish that you are still here … when it's what I want also. :hug:
 
  • Hugs
Reactions: Nem and TiredAndReadyToGo
Time

Time

Looking to leave.
Nov 10, 2019
264
If you decide ctb, you've got my support & I hope that it's as peaceful as possible. If not, you'll have my support equally. No need to apologize. This is YOUR life (& death) & your time table. I can only imagine how it must feel to be in your situation.

Rooting for ya, either way! :heart::hug:
 
  • Love
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: Nem, not-2-b-the-answer, less than and 1 other person
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
I apologize for thinking you were successful in CTB. :hug: I can't really post enough hugs … but I wish you peace.
I'
There is absolutely no reason to apologize, I said I was going to then didn't post at all, it is a reasonable assumption haha. In the same way you say you can't post enough hugs, I can't express how much you all have meant to me and my journey. You all are almost like my light at the end of the tunnel that is my life, it has been dark for so many reasons and for so long but it feels you all started to shine a light at the end of it and are guiding me to peace. Much love to all and please don't feel bad in the least bit, no one here has done anything other than be there and provide comfort for me
 
  • Hugs
  • Love
Reactions: Nem, Notcutoutforlife and not-2-b-the-answer
J

jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
If you decide to proceed then I wish you a safe journey.
We support you in whatever you want to do.

:heart:
 
  • Love
  • Hugs
Reactions: Nem, not-2-b-the-answer and TiredAndReadyToGo
Sael

Sael

Que nos duelan los brazos de tanto abrazarnos.
Oct 31, 2019
29
Diphen is rarely used as a method, however 6g is not going to do it, 15g is much better.

Most people are going to tell you that its a horrible way to die, bla, bla, bla. This is because of what some people read (side effects)
at 400mg you start to have hallucinations and might have a bad trip. This is fixed by taking 100mg of a short acting Benzo and 400mg of long acting benzo, then the 15g of Diphen, alcohol helps to speed up the process. This however could take up to 24 hrs, so you must avoid being found or it will fail.

Although its a rare method, it would not be my choice. Maybe you should find a better method or SN.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nem
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
Diphen is rarely used as a method, however 6g is not going to do it, 15g is much better.

Most people are going to tell you that its a horrible way to die, bla, bla, bla. This is because of what some people read (side effects)
at 400mg you start to have hallucinations and might have a bad trip. This is fixed by taking 100mg of a short acting Benzo and 400mg of long acting benzo, then the 15g of Diphen, alcohol helps to speed up the process. This however could take up to 24 hrs, so you must avoid being found or it will fail.

Although its a rare method, it would not be my choice. Maybe you should find a better method or SN.
I appreciate your thoughts, in my research Diphen is actually one of the most commonly used medications for overdoses at least in Virginia and 11th highest in the US but just being generalized as an anti-histamine in that. Taking it in combination with alcohol with help surpress the CNS so death may even come from respiratory failure but at the very least would potentiate the diphen/the sedative effect.

In all my research the only thing suggesting higher than 5gm's has been the research of the LD50 of rats, which is 500mg per kg but rats and humans are far different. It's LD50 in dogs for example is 10mg per kg which is very different from the rat dose. The amount I will be taking is 7gm's which for my weight (roughly 90kg) is 77.78mg per kg. In the medical reports I have seen unsuccessful attempts are typically due to being found. Diphenhydramine has a halflife of anywhere from 2-18hours depending on the person.

I do not have access to SN, and have been attempting the night night method for almost three weeks, which has caused a bigger time crunch so other methods are out. I do have to agree though a lot of the reports of trip I am seeing are people who took 400mg-1g, the reports of people taking 2.5g or higher and are still around said they didn't feel very much if anything they just remember waking up in the hospital. I'm just worried because of all the tripping accounts even though they are from low doses (relative)

I am not trying to discredit the research I'm sure you have done as well or argue I just want to be better informed if I missed something. If you could send your link for where it suggests 15gm's it would be much appreciated!

For legal reasons, this is also just my information, use it as you will but I am not encouraging anyone to go out this way. This is simply how I have resigned to go out myself.
 
Last edited:
  • Hugs
Reactions: Nem
J

jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
Safe journey if you decide to proceed

:heart:
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: TiredAndReadyToGo, not-2-b-the-answer and realjunes
not-2-b-the-answer

not-2-b-the-answer

Archangel
Mar 23, 2018
9,238
There is absolutely no reason to apologize, I said I was going to then didn't post at all, it is a reasonable assumption haha. In the same way you say you can't post enough hugs, I can't express how much you all have meant to me and my journey. You all are almost like my light at the end of the tunnel that is my life, it has been dark for so many reasons and for so long but it feels you all started to shine a light at the end of it and are guiding me to peace. Much love to all and please don't feel bad in the least bit, no one here has done anything other than be there and provide comfort for me

I don't know if you are still around ??? If not I hope you found peace. :hug::hug::hug:
 
less than

less than

not important
Jul 25, 2019
195
@TiredAndReadyToGo
It seems that you are not sure with your method?
Please be careful with yourself and spend some more time to do research until you're really sure.
And we are here no matter what your choice will be at last.
 
  • Like
Reactions: not-2-b-the-answer and realjunes
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
I don't know if you are still around ??? If not I hope you found peace. :hug::hug::hug:
N2B thank you for your supportive words and being here. I fell asleep at about 7 this morning, so I totally slept through the day and didn't wake up until 6. I woke up to a small amount in my accounts so I got what I consider to be some creature comforts to help me do this, I picked up some of my preference of alcohol, got a Juul (don't normally vape anything but weed but I was hoping it would help take the edge off) and got some food from the foodcourt at a local mall that is sort of nastalgic to me.

@TiredAndReadyToGo
It seems that you are not sure with your method?
Please be careful with yourself and spend some more time to do research until you're really sure.
And we are here no matter what your choice will be at last.

With the method, it's not that I am not sure about it, I am just more or less scared of the process of dying even though its my only option. One thing I'm not sure if others know is it's very similar to dying via Ami cocktail in the way the drug kills you, and most doctors if unaware of what was taken think its a TCA with how it presents. This is not terribly different but just ever so slightly is. I just don't have Benzo's and no means to obtain them so I am just relying on the alcohol to potentiate the sedative effect. That and I have never been the biggest on taking pills so I just don't know if there is a secret to taking large amounts? That and the random comments making me second guess just as I become comfortable again if that makes any sense. I'm sorry for my lack of updates, I won't leave without saying goodbye though so I will be back! I appreciate the support y'all I'm aiming to do it tonight but have to fast again because I got the food.
 
  • Hugs
  • Love
Reactions: not-2-b-the-answer and webancverba
W

webancverba

Member
Nov 24, 2019
14
Good to know you're still here, no matter what you choose to do
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: TiredAndReadyToGo and not-2-b-the-answer
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
Just while I am waiting with the fasting I thought I would just post some of the sources of information I have found for the diphen method. I'll probably be adding to the list over the next hour or so:

https://www.druginformer.com/search/side_effect_details/dibenil/suicide attempt.html (this one actually has the space between suicide and attempt at the end so it might need to be copy and pasted in to get to the site)





https://www.quora.com/I-took-200-pills-of-Benadryl-at-once-Will-I-die (I know it's Quora so grain of salt there but still useful)







Legal notice: To clarify, I'm not suggesting that anybody do this or hurt themselves using said knowledge, your choices are entirely yours. I just wanted to share the sources I have been looking at so if others are curious about where I have got the info I have been using in the thread they can take a look. This obviously won't be all the sources as I've been looking at info for the past week or two but it at least makes for some interesting reading.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: not-2-b-the-answer, Time, realjunes and 1 other person
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
Would it be a good idea to wait until this morning, so I can go out and get 50mg tablets instead? I just saw I can get a version of diphen in 50mg tabs and my thinking is less pills same effect would be better, or is that just a stupid and irrational idea since I already have 280 tabs of 25mg? (Just thinking 140 pills sounds way more managable than 280 especially dealing with a timeframe of 10-15 minutes) I would still have 24 hours alone if I started then, but even if it gets reduced to 20 or so, it would still take time to get into the room and know to call an ambulance, most survivals that I have seen are found in the first 10-16 hours. Sorry to just bombard with questions guys, I am just ready to do this and the only thing holding me back now is trying to swallow pills. I really read up on Night night and LD-hanging/jumping, pill overdose just came to me 2 weeks ago, researched the substance really thoroughly but less so the knowledge on how to do the pill taking part.

Thanks in advance all you lovely lovely SS people. Even if you don't have an answer, you just have yourself a phenenominal day and make the best of the one(s) we have left.
 
Last edited:
J

jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
It sounds like a fairly good idea, but are you sure you can get hold of those easily ?
 
Last edited:
T

TiredAndReadyToGo

Student
Nov 20, 2019
187
It sounds like an okay idea I guess, but are you sure you can get hold of those easily ?
I am seeing that they should be available at my local Shoppers Drug Mart (kinda like a Canadian CVS without the terribly long receipts lol) that and I will be calling as soon as they open
 
J

jgm63

Visionary
Oct 28, 2019
2,467
ok, and if for any reason they're not there, would there be a backup plan, eg how far to reach another branch of the same store, or an alternative store ?
 

Similar threads

athiestjoe
Replies
58
Views
4K
Suicide Discussion
opheliaoveragain
opheliaoveragain
N
Replies
2
Views
193
Suicide Discussion
BlackEyedDog
BlackEyedDog
sevennn
Replies
0
Views
432
Suicide Discussion
sevennn
sevennn