onewayroad

onewayroad

“Dying is not a crime.” ― Jack Kevorkian
Oct 4, 2018
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@onewayroad ,

It's not that unusual. I actually read about that option on the internet, and at least for some time some people in Japan chose that method. I vaguely recall something about security measures to stop the 'flow'. Too bad I can't do the traveling and the climbing. You would die by the lava or the fumes. The former can't be a good way to go, but once you have jumped there is no going back. Forget about the 'head first', would it really matter ?

'Ripley's method' as in the way she exited in Alien 3 (jumping in molten metal) does have some appeal, but the modern world is too safe.

You can't stab your heart in a way that's lethal. If you can feel pain, you can't.

Forget about the old Roman method of falling on your sword. Battle hardened soldiers would do it at times, but you need skill, the tools and the proper stamina and mindset to be able to do it.

@onewayroad, how would you get the oxygen out of the car ?

If there was a high enough volume of gas being released into the car the air in the car would leak out and be replaced with the gas. Consider CO poisoning when car exhaust used to have enough CO in it to do it that way. Or times when people in enclosed spaces have died from CO2 released from dry ice. You wouldn't reach 100% but enough of the air would be replaced with the gas to be fatal.
 
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Anyone knows why people can die inside a car while sleeping? They die and don't know it
 
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But this theory doesn't explain anything, why do women chose the less effective methods ? to leave a nice-looking corpse ? Maybe because those attempters weren't as serious about dying.

The reason for the difference is often reported, I think it's the same in the states as in England, and it's roughly 4 to 1. From what I read, men choose violent methods, whereas women often choose overdose, the latter being less reliable. Other factors like you say could be involved, such as not being serious enough about dying, though I honestly don't know.
 
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The reason for the difference is often reported, I think it's the same in the states as in England, and it's roughly 4 to 1. From what I read, men choose violent methods, whereas women often choose overdose, the latter being less reliable. Other factors like you say could be involved, such as not being serious enough about dying, though I honestly don't know.

I think that women have stronger help structures, more people tend to want to hear them/help them because of the white knighting and "women are wonderful effect" (i didn't made that one up, you can google it), less stigma about talking about their emotions and showing fragility, that's what explains the lower rate of suicides, the less lethals methods are more a symptom than a cause.
 
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Anon1337

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Decapitation by train or homemade guillotine.
Walking into the wilderness and dying naturally (animals, exposure, dehydration, etc..).
Driving into a wall or tree at high speed.
Decapitation/neck break by jumping off a bridge with a noose around the neck.
Homemade shotgun slug.
Shooting yourself in the head using two handguns simultaneously.
 
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One of my favourite authors, Yukio Mishima, was obsessed with death and nationalism, and decided he would undertake seppuku ritually after attempting to provoke the Japanese Defense Force into a coup. (People differ on how sincerely political Mishima actually was and how serious he was about getting the JDF to act. He did start and cultivate a hypernationalist private militia, although what he actually planned to do with them is dubious.)

Anyway, he planned it deeply beforehand, including having others on hand to die with him and/or act as seconds first (performing the killing stroke in seppuku). Having just finished the final books in the tetralogy/quartet he was working on at the time, he arranged a visit with some members of his militia to a JDF training branch, then took an officer hostage and delivered a speech planned to rouse patriotism in the soldiers. It failed and he was laughed at. Then he performed seppuku as planned, and after his second failed, someone else took over, decapitating Mishima and allowing Mishima's second to also perform seppuku.

It was a bizarre incident and very shocking at the time. I don't know if he just did it to have a pretext to die 'honourably' after writing his masterpieces (which summed up many ideas about reincarnation and death aesthetic). I also don't agree with Mishima's nationalism, nor his dragging other people into it, nor his intentions of having the JDF start a doomed coup against the Japanese government so they could become an active military again. Not something I'd emulate, and maybe it could've gone more smoothly, but fascinating. This was someone who was specifically preoccupied with having an interesting and aesthetically appealing (I don't mean 'attractive') death for most of his life.
 
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Anyone knows why people can die inside a car while sleeping? They die and don't know it

Sleeping in the car while making air circulation work instead of ventilation. This could make carbon dioxide? But the result is people not realizing they are dying.
 
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TengoK

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I'd like to be shot from a human-sized cannon into the mouth of a hungry man-eating lion.
 
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Weirdly I'd like to die by being choked by a strong guy. Apologies for the sensuous undertones, not meant that way. Just want someone to kill me. That might remain a fantasy.
 
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@Jovaras,

If that's true it's horrible. 1,100 degrees is hot but not that hot. Horrible way to die. Didn't know you could stand or lie on the stuff.
 
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@Jovaras,

If that's true it's horrible. 1,100 degrees is hot but not that hot. Horrible way to die. Didn't know you could stand or lie on the stuff.

in general it is the stupidest way to die on so many levels

and the sword thing... actually it is really hard to hit the heart and pierce it, heart is hard muscle in a slippery sack, protected by rib-cage witch is quite hard to pierce the connective tissue of rib-cage by it self... and to try to pierce the heart from abdominal path, it will be impossible... every organ you will touch on your way to heart will hurt like the end of the world to the point you will pass out from pain shock
 
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eczema

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But this theory doesn't explain anything, why do women chose the less effective methods ? to leave a nice-looking corpse ? Maybe because those attempters weren't as serious about dying.
i can't speak for all women, but i think that for a lot of us we want a peaceful death or don't want to traumatize our families any more than they already would be by having them find a mutilated corpse.
 
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I made a post in another thread about jumping head first into a volcano as a suicide method. The appeal of it to me is that I have always been a pretty outgoing and interesting person, and ending such a life in an interesting way would be how I would like to be remembered. My friends would say sure, he killed himself but man, what a way to do it. It's pretty shallow but hey, that's showbiz baby.

Anyway, what are some other methods you have thought of or heard of that seem interesting, noteworthy or stand out in some way?
I guess your are not afraid of heights so yes it is a spectacular way of going. Although I find unusual methods difficult to carry out.
 
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Anyone knows why people can die inside a car while sleeping? They die and don't know it
It is not possible due to carbon dioxide that makes your body to desperately look for and get fresh air.
 
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I believe I remember reading somewhere a really long time ago that if you seriously drink enough water you will die. It's a ridiculous amount, but if you drink enough of it you will drown out the inside of your body. Don't quote me on that, but I do believe I read it somewhere.
 
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It is not possible due to carbon dioxide that makes your body to desperately look for and get fresh air.

There are many incidents like this. They put the air circulation on and sleep
 
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I believe I remember reading somewhere a really long time ago that if you seriously drink enough water you will die. It's a ridiculous amount, but if you drink enough of it you will drown out the inside of your body. Don't quote me on that, but I do believe I read it somewhere.
No you won't drown, but you will suffer from water-intoxication

 
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s_girl

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...women (in general) choose the easy way out. But the easy way very often isn't the most effective, and is subject to chance events.

I understand the point you are making, it's been well publicised. The reasons have been widely researched and documented. I also appreciated your suggestions for the interesting methods.

However, I would ask you to please consider the language you use more carefully...

Calling any suicide (attempt or completed) "the easy way out" is not only inaccurate, it is extremely offensive to everyone here who is considering or planning to KTB.

I believe anyone that is seriously planning their own death knows that there really is NO "easy way out".
 
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I really wish the forum creates more methods that will really help the members instead of being stuck and trapped.
 
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ineedtojackit

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I always thought jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge would be awesome. The feeling of flying, the statistical certainty and the inner peace. The down side is a lot of them actually drown, high chance of getting 'saved' and it's too far from here...

Skydiving is impossible but would be a good way to go too I think.
It would get the job done but I doubt inner peace is what you would be feeling in your final moments and not to mention shattering your bones and just drowning.
 
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Arak

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in general it is the stupidest way to die on so many levels

and the sword thing... actually it is really hard to hit the heart and pierce it, heart is hard muscle in a slippery sack, protected by rib-cage witch is quite hard to pierce the connective tissue of rib-cage by it self... and to try to pierce the heart from abdominal path, it will be impossible... every organ you will touch on your way to heart will hurt like the end of the world to the point you will pass out from pain shock
That old Roman method of falling on the sword required some mental stamina, courage and skill. Presumably, the sword would be in such a position that the weight of the body would force the sword into the heart.
 
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It would get the job done but I doubt inner peace is what you would be feeling in your final moments and not to mention shattering your bones and just drowning.

You are entitled to your doubt and I used to agree with you, but I have read a LOT about this subject and reports and studies DO NOT show this. The only people that can really comment on how it feels are those that have jumped and survived... I've copied some of the best bits for you.

"reports for 169 suicides from the Golden Gate Bridge found that only eight persons (5 percent) "died from drowning and not as a result of impact trauma." They also stated that, "These individuals appeared to have impacted in the foot to head orientation." Also, only two of the six GGB survivors interviewed had semi-serious medical injuries.

Interestingly, the study advises that GGB jump survivors report:

"The experience of jumping for all six of the survivors was described as tranquil and peaceful and not frightening or terrifying as one might suspect".

"One survivor said,"It was a good feeling - no screaming. It was the most pleasant feeling I've ever had. I saw the horizon and the blue sky and I thought how beautiful it was." Another survivor said that at first he had a peaceful feeling and then he felt like he went into a "dream" . . . "I never felt I was dying." One subject stated that he experienced "a sense of relief" and "peace" on the way down.

"One subject said he "felt like a bird flying - total relief... I was looking forward to what was to come. Even now I'm symbolically still looking for the better world - I'm still in that place between the bridge and the water. "Another reported that his descent was "like eternity - beautiful - I enjoyed the sensation." As well as "One subject who described the first half of his descent as "peaceful, enjoyable and fun," before he realised he would hit the concrete piling" and moved around it.

Furthermore, a San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge jump survivor describes how she felt "a tremendous sense of peace."

This info all comes from this study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129714/pdf/westjmed00296-0031.pdf

Jumping is really scary and I am not advocating for it or anything like that! There are very serious and painful risks with this method too... But jump survivors often report feelings of inner peace during and rebirth and spiritual transcendence if they survive. You're right about the bone shattering and drowning, that often happens but it can also be a very lethal method, if undertaken correctly.

I really dislike 'know-it-alls' and I'm really not trying to be one here, but I've read extensively about this subject for my own research and I'm happy to share the knowledge I've learned...
 
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onewayroad

onewayroad

“Dying is not a crime.” ― Jack Kevorkian
Oct 4, 2018
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So I wanted to share a couple more that I just found. No pictures in any of these links.

Suicide by speargun, that's pretty impressive. And sounds painful. Actually all of these sound painful.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29120874

Like this suicide by sticking your god damn head in a hydraulic press machine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30191376

And finally, one which I always wondered if it was possible. Turns out it is.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12024-018-9959-9

Also what is up with that title on the last one? Pretty bold making a joke in the title of a suicide case study. I respect that haha
 
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onewayroad

onewayroad

“Dying is not a crime.” ― Jack Kevorkian
Oct 4, 2018
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One more:

"A 39-year-old male, with a history of multiple suicidal attempts and psychiatric pathology, a professional lumberjack, was found dead at the meadow with his throat cut and a chainsaw beside him. Autopsy revealed that all physical injuries were confined to the head, neck and left shoulder. Two major (long and wide) wounds were found and documented on both sides of the neck and head. A wound on the posterior and right lateral side of his neck and head was noted. Medical examiner noted an irregular rupture on the posterior-right side of the atlanto-occipital joint with impaired bone, but without any damage on the spinal cord. Another gaping cut was noted in the lower part on the left lateral side of his neck. Medical examiner noted that muscles of the left side of the neck, left common carotid artery, left internal jugular vein and left vagus nerve were completely cut off. The body of the C5 and C6 vertebra, with the spinal cord at that level, was completely cut. Also, there were multiple linear and striped parallel abrasions on the outer side of the left shoulder and one abrasion on the left lateral side of the neck. The conclusion of inquiries was "suicide by chainsaw"."
 
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millefeui

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Not as extreme as jumping into a volcano, but I considered travelling to Japan to kill myself in Aokigahara (the suicide forest). I wonder how people who know me would react "Wow, she traveled to Japan only to kill herself? What a weeb!". I am likely hanging myself anyways, so might as well do it in a "cool" place, yeah? And I could visit some cool places in Japan before ending my life.

The reason I don't like this idea more is that 1. The forest might have more security than I am lead to believe, 2. I don't want to fail only to appear in the news as the idiot who failed to commit suicide in a foreign country, 3. My "family" could end up having to pay for my body to be sent from Japan to this hellhole where I live in, and I don't want to cause others more problems than I already do.
Jumping from a hot air balloon over the ocean
That sounds awesomely romantic.
 
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onewayroad

“Dying is not a crime.” ― Jack Kevorkian
Oct 4, 2018
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Not as extreme as jumping into a volcano, but I considered travelling to Japan to kill myself in Aokigahara (the suicide forest). I wonder how people who know me would react "Wow, she traveled to Japan only to kill herself? What a weeb!". I am likely hanging myself anyways, so might as well do it in a "cool" place, yeah? And I could visit some cool places in Japan before ending my life.

The reason I don't like this idea more is that 1. The forest might have more security than I am lead to believe, 2. I don't want to fail only to appear in the news as the idiot who failed to commit suicide in a foreign country, 3. My "family" could end up having to pay for my body to be sent from Japan to this hellhole where I live in, and I don't want to cause others more problems than I already do.

That sounds awesomely romantic.

I lived in Japan for two years. Do you have any idea how close I came to going to Aokigahara.... it was so hard to miss that opportunity :P But yeah all the reasons you said. Except I know security isn't a problem, so the other reasons.
 
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