UK police welfare check - N

[outrider567]

That N from D can only be used for suicide. They just want to prevent us from committing suicide that is the "big crime" to them . i remember 3 years ago there were hundreds of sources of SN on the internet now only very very very few.

Before that there was even powdered N from China, fentanyl and carfentanyl on the dark web. they systematically banned all that . imo they do all this just to stop people from suicide. This is why they made anyone like Dr Kervorkian assisting suicide illegal. they put Dr Kervorkian in prison for helping very old terminally ill people commit suicide.

A few years ago you could also get nitrogen tanks online and have them delivered here in the USA.

What do you mean 'a few years ago?? Anybody can get Nitrogen Tanks filled with Nitrogen this year also--I ordered successfully from 2 different places, and I know of other people who PM'ed me who also successfully and easily ordered filled Nitrogen tanks online

Bloody hell they didn't have a search warrant but could search anyway, sounds like all the rules can just be twisted in their favour...getting your house searched is fucking traumatic (if you are a very private person anyway) sorry you had to go through that! And thanks for warning people.

I'm no expert but I wonder if you called their bluff they would leave, probably no just cause to arrest you, could be wrong though..

Thought some of you might be interested to know that I've just had a police welfare check, looking for N. I'm based in SE England.

I have previously purchased from D… months ago though, so not sure why they turned up now.

I refused to let them search the house, so they threatened to arrest me, which meant they could search anyway. I relented and let them look. They went away empty handed.

If you've got N please take all the precautions you can to hide it…

Months ago? and they showed up now? unreal

 

[abyss]

This is stressing me out, the thought I can't even have a reliable exit because of these crackdowns. I am very afraid of brain damage and living under EB method.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Did they wreck the house?

I'm curious how thorough the search was, I don't think we should discuss hiding places on here for obvious reasons but knowing the extent they search would be interesting. @Goalie @D2021

 

[Underneath]

The government in the UK seems to have no plan to help those wishing to die, whether it be physical or mental health. The only thing they've managed to do is increase the amount deaths by suicide.
By removing things like N/SN, they are also forcing people to ctb in more and more violent ways, leaving people involved in any 'clean-up' with things like PTSD.

The UK is an embarrassment.

EDIT: Spelling/grammar/rewording

 

[whatevs]

Oh, that must have been somewhat frightening. It's as if they are treating people who are potentially at risk of ending their lives as criminals....

...or can N be used for something else to hurt others - like constructing a bomb...? I'm just curious. It doesn't make any sense to me to disturb a private citizen like that.

I don't think our society thinks you have a right to purchase a painless way to die, so they don't consider any of it "private".

 

[D2021]

I hope D was not caught.

 

[hopeless123]

Ive mentioned in another post I was busted yesterday (Surrey UK)

Police turned up, barged their way in, found my N in the fridge which I've had for nearly 4 months and spent the evening in a police cell.

They knew what they were looking for as once they found the bottles they stopped their search and off we all went. I asked them during the search which lasted about 10 mins, are they welfare officers and she said nope we're the police.

I ordered N on a Monday by Wednesday it turned up. No customs checks nothing. How the fuck did the police just turn up, how would they have known?

One of the retarded thoughts I had, I was there from 5.30pm to 1.30am (most of in a cell) could D have notified UK police? This sounds stupid as Im typing it but I have zero answers..

My package was untampered with or inspected. I paid via bitcoin so how can they trace this back to me. I'm not known to the police and they had all my details including my phone number.

just as a side not: I spoke to the medic there as I was getting a headache so he had to issue paracetamol to me. I was very honest with him. He said it's an old school drug and was I looking to use it to help me sleep and I said to top myself. I asked him how did the police find out and he said he didnt know but an AI could have picked up key words and alerted intelligence.

They are here now reading this stuff Im sure. I don't want to be criminalised for wanting to end my life. I dont want "help" or meds any more. Ive tried and Ive had enough.

Let us die with some dignity please!

 

[Underneath]

Ive mentioned in another post I was busted yesterday (Surrey UK)

Police turned up, barged their way in, found my N in the fridge which I've had for nearly 4 months and spent the evening in a police cell.

They knew what they were looking for as once they found the bottles they stopped their search and off we all went. I asked them during the search which lasted about 10 mins, are they welfare officers and she said nope we're the police.

I ordered N on a Monday by Wednesday it turned up. No customs checks nothing. How the fuck did the police just turn up, how would they have known?

One of the retarded thoughts I had, I was there from 5.30pm to 1.30am (most of in a cell) could D have notified UK police? This sounds stupid as Im typing it but I have zero answers..

My package was untampered with or not inspected. I paid via bitcoin so how can they trace this back to me. I'm not known to the police and they had all my details including my phone number.

Damn, are people really getting taken to the local station for this?
While I feel really unlucky for losing my N, I must have been lucky to get 2 police officers who were actually really polite and calm. No threats, and only took it when ordered by the acting sergeant.

I'm considering leaving information to them in my notes thanking them for being so considerate.

PS: I'm not in the Surrey area.

 

[hopeless123]

Yeah I eventually had 3 officers in my home. She told me in the interview, someone called her to collect a bottle of N

she didnt know what it was really until I told her. They relaxed and were sympathetic when I said why I have it

In a weird way it's reassuring to know our police and intelligence services are on the ball, even though they were nearly 4 months late!

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Ive mentioned in another post I was busted yesterday (Surrey UK)

Police turned up, barged their way in, found my N in the fridge which I've had for nearly 4 months and spent the evening in a police cell.

They knew what they were looking for as once they found the bottles they stopped their search and off we all went. I asked them during the search which lasted about 10 mins, are they welfare officers and she said nope we're the police.

I ordered N on a Monday by Wednesday it turned up. No customs checks nothing. How the fuck did the police just turn up, how would they have known?

One of the retarded thoughts I had, I was there from 5.30pm to 1.30am (most of in a cell) could D have notified UK police? This sounds stupid as Im typing it but I have zero answers..

My package was untampered with or inspected. I paid via bitcoin so how can they trace this back to me. I'm not known to the police and they had all my details including my phone number.

just as a side not: I spoke to the medic there as I was getting a headache so he had to issue paracetamol to me. I was very honest with him. He said it's an old school drug and was I looking to use it to help me sleep and I said to top myself. I asked him how did the police find out and he said he didnt know but an AI could have picked up key words and alerted intelligence.

They are here now reading this stuff Im sure. I don't want to be criminalised for wanting to end my life. I dont want "help" or meds any more. Ive tried and Ive had enough.

Let us die with some dignity please!

imo The U.S. government LE , dept. of Homeland Security etc , using western union info first and then UPS info figured out D's UPS account . WU and UPS gave all info to the U.S. gov. and LE . U.S . gov then shared info with Canada and UK. not sure if other countries yet.

I've been reading this forum for 3.5 years and no one had problems with N from D, people posted as always here . imo this website is not how LE found out about D's shipping accounts. D was using Bitcoin and monero only then. imo it was this year that D allowed Western Union and that allowed LE to get sender's location and reciever's info and then they went to UPS.

UPS, WU, DHL,other carriers will give up all info address, date of purchase as they have it in their computers/servers. They give all info that LE requests. imo they have D's UPS account etc.

But now even if you pay with Bitcoin LE has D's UPS account info so they know all the purchaser's address, date of purchase etc. as that is all in the UPS computers/servers and they will give it to LE and have imo.

imo to fix this D has to change everything location, shipper , account and use only Monero. Someone should communicate this to D.

 

[Underneath]

imo The U.S. government LE using western union info first and then UPS info figured out D's UPS account . WU and UPS gave all info to the U.S. gov. and LE . U.S . gov then shared info with Canada and UK. not sure if other countries yet.

I've been reading this forum for 3.5 years and no one had problems with N from D, people posted as always here . D was using Bitcoin and monero only then. imo it was this year that D allowed Western Union and that allowed LE to get sender's location and reciever's info and then they went to UPS.

UPS, WU, other carriers will give up all info address, date of purchase as they have it in their computers/servers. They give all info that LE requests. imo they have D's UPS account etc.

I used Monero through a one time account, via DHL.

This is border control, not a WU/US Government conspiracy.

 

[hopeless123]

imo The U.S. government LE using western union info first and then UPS info figured out D's UPS account . WU and UPS gave all info to the U.S. gov. and LE . U.S . gov then shared info with Canada and UK. not sure if other countries yet.

I've been reading this forum for 3.5 years and no one had problems with N from D, people posted as always here . D was using Bitcoin and monero only then. imo it was this year that D allowed Western Union and that allowed LE to get sender's location and reciever's info and then they went to UPS.

UPS, WU, other carriers will give up all info address, date of purchase as they have it in their computers/servers. They give all info that LE requests. imo they have D's UPS account etc.

I went down the MoneyGram WU way first with D but being the dumbass I am, I coulnd't figure it out, and you're right, it highlighted his location.

I hope he hasnt been comprised because I need to reorder again as soon as possible.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I used Monero through a one time account, via DHL.

This is border control, not a WU/US Government conspiracy.

i edited the post . i didn't say it was a conspiracy. i said imo i think that LE found out D's location from WU because WU highlights D's location wheras Monero doesn't have any location info. LE has D's info and shipping account. i think they first found out through WU then UPS and have D's location from there and now it seems they have D's other shipper's info . UPS or DHL will give all info to LE . doesn't matter if you use Monero now.

By U.S. gov Le i meant Dept of Homeland Security.

imo it seems they have D's shipping account info for all shippers.

imo to try to fix this D has to change account, location, packaging, and then use only Monero.

i just want to escape torture. I don't get it why don't they let us alone and do what we want to with our lives. i want to die . i'm going to die anyway so what's the difference just a lot of suffering i'll miss . Let me die painlessly in peace. Everyone is going to die what is it about this that they don't get? nothing matters.

 

[hopeless123]

To be fair, it highlights the location where he cashed WU in, his operation could be anywhere. I can see D disappearing soon. He'd be stupid to carry on for too much longer. At least go quiet for some time and then reboot in a year or 2.

I told the police I have to reorder and she said we have your address now so it's likely to be intercepted.

I dont know what to do. Im supposed to be at work but all my energy is drained.

Underneath what are your plans now, reorder?

 

[Tesha]

I'm curious how thorough the search was, I don't think we should discuss hiding places on here for obvious reasons but knowing the extent they search would be interesting. @Goalie @D2021

All cupboards, drawers, boxes and bags, every room, greenhouse, sheds, walked around the garden and car. Discussed going into the lofts, but decided they were too inaccessible. Basically it was a very thorough search.

 

[blue_muse]

I think there's some serious scaremongering going on. Someone's out to deter SS members from buying N.

Beware of the Fear Obligation Guilt.

 

[Underneath]

To be fair, it highlights the location where he cashed WU in, his operation could be anywhere. I can see D disappearing soon. He'd be stupid to carry on for too much longer. At least go quiet for some time and then reboot in a year or 2.

I told the police I have to reorder and she said we have your address now so it's likely to be intercepted.

I dont know what to do. Im supposed to be at work but all my energy is drained.

Underneath what are your plans now, reorder?

I'm not 100% sure right now. I'm lost between trying a different method such CO, or just reordering and using it almost immediately.

Whatever I decide to do I want to accomplish two things:
1. Not destroy other people chances of getting N.
2. Make a point that my suicide has been expedited due to the removal of my 'insurance policy'.

The police who came round and chatted to me agreed that having N was a comfort, and could be beneficial. One of them even said they wouldn't be surprised if my suicide would likely happen sooner now ( I didn't say anything to prompt such a response) I think he said he would put that on the report (I'm still unsure if that's good or not).

They also told me that someone from my CMHT would be in contact ASAP due to this seizure, to discuss more help for me. Surprise, surprise, not a single call yet. If I do get a call from them, I think I'm going to record it, so it might (heavly edited for privacy/security reasons) find it's way uploaded here.

I just can't believe how people in the UK can bang on about our advanced medical facilities etc. I've only ever got treatment vaguely close to what I would consider "satisfactory" via paying all I have for it, then get fuck-all support when it fails.
It really does absolutely disgust me.

Sorry, that turned into a bad of a rant there.

~U

 

[Tesha]

I think there's some serious scaremongering going on. Someone's out to deter SS members from buying N.

Beware of the Fear Obligation Guilt.

If that's referring to me, I've been a member for over two years and have no reason to lie. If you look at my short list of postings, it's mainly benign boring crap.

However, everyone has the right to make their own decisions on info posted on this site. I was just trying to inform with my post.

 

[HopefulButPrepared]

Thought some of you might be interested to know that I've just had a police welfare check, looking for N. I'm based in SE England.

I have previously purchased from D… months ago though, so not sure why they turned up now.

I refused to let them search the house, so they threatened to arrest me, which meant they could search anyway. I relented and let them look. They went away empty handed.

If you've got N please take all the precautions you can to hide it…

the first thing anyone needs to do is hide it somewhere away from their property

 

[Hell-On-Earth]

Ive mentioned in another post I was busted yesterday (Surrey UK)

Police turned up, barged their way in, found my N in the fridge which I've had for nearly 4 months and spent the evening in a police cell.

They knew what they were looking for as once they found the bottles they stopped their search and off we all went. I asked them during the search which lasted about 10 mins, are they welfare officers and she said nope we're the police.

I ordered N on a Monday by Wednesday it turned up. No customs checks nothing. How the fuck did the police just turn up, how would they have known?

One of the retarded thoughts I had, I was there from 5.30pm to 1.30am (most of in a cell) could D have notified UK police? This sounds stupid as Im typing it but I have zero answers..

My package was untampered with or inspected. I paid via bitcoin so how can they trace this back to me. I'm not known to the police and they had all my details including my phone number.

just as a side not: I spoke to the medic there as I was getting a headache so he had to issue paracetamol to me. I was very honest with him. He said it's an old school drug and was I looking to use it to help me sleep and I said to top myself. I asked him how did the police find out and he said he didnt know but an AI could have picked up key words and alerted intelligence.

They are here now reading this stuff Im sure. I don't want to be criminalised for wanting to end my life. I dont want "help" or meds any more. Ive tried and Ive had enough.

Let us die with some dignity please!

I'm sorry to hear this happened to you. Did they end up giving you a criminal record? N is starting to sound really risky for those of us in the UK. I can't see D contacting the police, it's got to have something to do with customs either inspecting or tracking the source of the package somehow. Either way it doesn't sound safe to order N from D in the UK.

This honestly is terrifying. I'm puzzled on your entire situation, looks like I'll have to avoid N and fall back to SN. I just want to die in peace for fucks sake. Our country provides no support to those who are suicidal, and I'm now in a position where I have no desire to live anymore. Nothing can change that.

The last thing I want is a criminal record when all I want to do is die. It'll be another massive hurdle. Fuck this country.

I hope you're holding up okay after that experience. Best wishes from London.

 

[Rational man]

Thought some of you might be interested to know that I've just had a police welfare check, looking for N. I'm based in SE England.

I have previously purchased from D… months ago though, so not sure why they turned up now.

I refused to let them search the house, so they threatened to arrest me, which meant they could search anyway. I relented and let them look. They went away empty handed.

If you've got N please take all the precautions you can to hide it…

the police havnt got enough resources to deal with crime on the streets of London's drug pushing community, so its its amazing they paid you a visit!.

 

[hopeless123]

I'm sorry to hear this happened to you. Did they end up giving you a criminal record? N is starting to sound really risky for those of us in the UK. I can't see D contacting the police, it's got to have something to do with customs either inspecting or tracking the source of the package somehow. Either way it doesn't sound safe to order N from D in the UK.

This honestly is terrifying. I'm puzzled on your entire situation, looks like I'll have to avoid N and fall back to SN. I just want to die in peace for fucks sake. Our country provides no support to those who are suicidal, and I'm now in a position where I have no desire to live anymore. Nothing can change that.

The last thing I want is a criminal record when all I want to do is die. It'll be another massive hurdle. Fuck this country.

I hope you're holding up okay after that experience. Best wishes from London.

Hi,

I don't have a criminal record. They have let me go pending an investigation. I'll have to attend some appointments at my local police station otherwise I could end up being prosecuted for failing to abide by this Checkpoint agreement thing.

It was amazing to have N because I started moving forward with other things in my life. I wish I didn't answer the door.

 

[Lost Magic]

Hi,

I don't have a criminal record. They have let me go pending an investigation. I'll have to attend some appointments at my local police station otherwise I could end up being prosecuted for failing to abide by this Checkpoint agreement thing.

It was amazing to have N because I started moving forward with other things in my life. I wish I didn't answer the door.

They may have came back anyway. How could you have known that they would have taken it so easily? What about SN as a backup? Not as peaceful as N, but probably the next best thing.

 

[stoiccactus]

Thought some of you might be interested to know that I've just had a police welfare check, looking for N. I'm based in SE England.

I have previously purchased from D… months ago though, so not sure why they turned up now.

I refused to let them search the house, so they threatened to arrest me, which meant they could search anyway. I relented and let them look. They went away empty handed.

If you've got N please take all the precautions you can to hide it…

Reminder for those in the USA, you have the right to reject these types of searches and refuse to let the cops in unless they present a warrant signed by a judge. You also have the right to not answer any of their questions. N is a schedule II controlled substance in the USA, so you very much could be in this position. I doubt any prosecutor or cops would go to the lengths to get a warrant for N, though.

 

[Tesha]

Thought some of you might be interested in a little update since my police visit.

I received this entertaining and highly informative letter this week…. Sorry about the picture quality….

More disturbing, although it may be a complete coincidence, a number of packages I've received since the visit have been opened and resealed. They were all internally sent in the UK…

 

[Smart No More]

Thought some of you might be interested in a little update since my police visit.

I received this entertaining and highly informative letter this week…. Sorry about the picture quality….

More disturbing, although it may be a complete coincidence, a number of packages I've received since the visit have been opened and resealed. They were all internally sent in the UK…

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Yeah, it's common for your address to get flagged for scrutiny ongoing. It's considered "burned" or "burnt" at this stage and your mail will be on a list saying you get sketchy stuff online and should be scrutinised actively for the foreseeable future. It's common on darknets

 

[Underneath]

Yeah, it's common for your address to get flagged for scrutiny ongoing. It's considered "burned" or "burnt" at this stage and your mail will be on a list saying you get sketchy stuff online and should be scrutinised actively for the foreseeable future. It's common on darknets

I've ordered, and received the necessary items for my new method, I'm not going to publicly announce it, but it can be done in a way that requires chemicals. The packages I received were not opened/resealed, so while I'm not saying this is not routinely done, it may only be done by certain forces.

@Goalie How long ago was your "welfare visit"? The police came round to me a second time, and I've been given a 12 month order to not import/possess illegal drugs, and I asked about whether I would be contacted by my local MH services. They told me it usually takes at least 5 weeks lol.

 

[Smart No More]

I've ordered, and received the necessary items for my new method, I'm not going to publicly announce it, but it can be done in a way that requires chemicals. The packages I received were not opened/resealed, so while I'm not saying this is not routinely done, it may only be done by certain forces.

Its usually the case that customs just intercept the packages. They's only reseal and allow them to be sent if they find nothing illegal in them or they have vested interests in the illegal package reaching its destination. Those being to further their investigations of course and unlikely in most somestic, personal supply situations. Goalies packages were clearly checked for illegal substances and sent on after being cleared. That's my opinion and understanding of it. In your case it seems your packages/shipping adress either hasn't been flagged for further scrutiny (LE are far from infallible) or you got lucky and stealth was decent. Decoys get sent by some vendors. Not sure if they'd have done that in your case. Probably not if it was small amounts of whatever you ordered. It's something they tend to do for significant quantities I think. All vendors have their own nuances so there's no exact MO but obviously some methods get used by many as they're tried and tested.

Surprised to hear you received a second visit. Was this in follow up to further interceptions or just a kind of courtesy follow up to the initial visit?

 

[TTD]

I don't think sn is illegal yet in the uk like n but any news here on recent welfare checks for sn in the uk?

I've read they did some sn welfare checks I think in early 2021 because an ebay seller gave up the customers details but not heard anything more recent since IC being one of the main sources.

 

[Ash’Girl]

I don't think sn is illegal yet in the uk like n but any news here on recent welfare checks for sn in the uk?

I've read they did some sn welfare checks I think in early 2021 because an ebay seller gave up the customers details but not heard anything more recent since IC being one of the main sources.

Sodium nitrite is on the U.K. governments regulated poisons list of reportable substances (7.2).

This is about suppliers - presumably U.K. suppliers. Can't find any legislation about importing it for personal use (yet) but if customs identified it as suspicious they will probably report it.

Not scaremongering, I've not tried to import it because of the uncertainty.

Supplying explosives precursors and poisons

www.gov.uk