Venting UK governments response is depressing

[gbi2]

I live in the UK. Feel let down badly by the NHS when I turned to them for support. NHS is not accessible to some of us who have accessibility challenges. I ma trying to keep myself alive - and this site has certainly helped. The way I am feeling now that I have caught up with what is happening with the site - I might as well drop dead now.

The NHS is failing badly. I see that as a patient who they have failed to help treat physical and mental illnesses, and I worked there and saw how the Trust is badly run. It is no wonder People like Shipman and Letby get away with what they did despite the concerns raised. Admin staff, HR and other non clinical staff are mostly only concerned about getting to higher grade jobs than they are about healthcare. Even just reading posts from NHS doctors on Reddit shows how decision making is being done by the wrong people. Some people believe there is a routine for every treatment, a business as usual approach to healthcare and managing a hospital. Bad behaviour and poor performance isn't just ignored, it is rewarded and if the NHS can get something done to a minimum quality of care they will. That is why there is an increase in unqualified staff acting as qualified doctors without disclosing it to the patient. Again the DoctorsUK Reddit forum has discussions about this and these massive failures are why many of them want to jump ship and work in other countries.

Sorry to hear you have been let down too. I always wanted to run a charity and website to help people who aren't getting proper support with bullying and healthcare. Something that was more than just pointing people elsewhere, something that developed a lot of clout to get things done. I'm barely able to function now so that idea is unachievable for me.
I wish I had advice for you other than keep trying even if you don't expect a result, which sounds like promoting futilty more than being actual help.

I was actually shocked the other day when a 'first response' therapist who has been helping me said she is unable to do anything about how the NHS treated me because the NHS don't respond to her requests to discuss it. I said to her she should be the one person who is able to just command then to have to provide her with any information she asks for and to listen to her stating the facts. But they are ignoring her because they know they have done wrong.

These are the issues the government should be dealing with instead of blocking sites like this that give someone the comfort they are missing from the system that is failing them.

 

[Arvid Schopentar]

I found OfCom's (and more generally the British government's) censorious, sanctimonious assumptions about this website completely outrageous, and feel this latest childish attempt to stifle it, in the words of the pessimist essayist Peter Wessel Zapffe, is yet another "modern barbarity" that is "based on a hair-raising misapprehension about the nature of existence".

Sadly it is in keeping with a long-standing tradition of the British state to shrink in cowardice from confronting the reality that many of its citizens may not actually feel life to be worth living, going so far as to presume that this possibility must not even be talked or written about, much less acted upon.

As early as the 1770s this ridiculous posture was already clearly in action when the British government went to great lengths to suppress David Hume's pamphlet On Suicide - a purely philosophical work - on the apparent grounds that simply acknowledging that suicide exists and trying to understand the considerations that lead to it must be tantamount to being complicit in or actually encouraging suicide. The prohibition was as myopic and ill-judged then as it is now, and had about as much effectiveness (i.e., none at all) at "preventing" suicides.

The most recent pearl-clutching attempt to suppress critical thinking about suicide and the value (or not) of one's life by obstructing access to this website is only the latest in a centuries-long string of pitiful attempts by pathological optimists to silence great thinkers, speakers and writers who have dared to confront the miserable fact of suicide with intellectual honesty, and the site's admins should be proud that by continuing to resist this vile censorship they are in such good historical company.

If the British government wishes to stay consistent in its idiotic proscriptions then it should also be emptying its public libraries of the writings of Pliny, Seneca, Shakespeare, Hume, Schopenhauer, Tolstoy, Kafka, Camus, all of whom wrote frankly about suicide, as well as the more recent published philosophical works such as those of Thomas Ligotti, David Benatar, Sarah Perry and countless others. After all, surely nobody would want to kill themselves, if only they could be prevented from reading all those naughty books…

The only positive result that this latest ruling brought about for me is that is has finally forced me to register an account (wasn't that the exact opposite of its intended effect?!) and start posting on here in earnest. Hi everyone, long-time reader, first-time poster, happy to be properly here among you at last

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

The UK government is so evil. Where do they think they get the right to impose their subjective beliefs on everyone.

I challenge these corrupt creeps to tell me why their stupid subjective beliefs are objective truth since there is no objective morality.

Shakespeare a British person in the 1600's said some real truth " nothing is good or bad but thinking makes it so"

They have no right to ban a website . They are pure evil

I'm in the US another oppressive prison where freedom and rights like the right to buy nembutal and to buy assisted suicide are made crimes . More reasons for me to kill myself sooner to escape their prison and give them the middle finger.

 

[Seered Doom]

It's just petty of them to make legislation just to ban this site. How is this gonna help anyone?

 

[Kit1]

The NHS is failing badly. I see that as a patient who they have failed to help treat physical and mental illnesses, and I worked there and saw how the Trust is badly run. It is no wonder People like Shipman and Letby get away with what they did despite the concerns raised. Admin staff, HR and other non clinical staff are mostly only concerned about getting to higher grade jobs than they are about healthcare. Even just reading posts from NHS doctors on Reddit shows how decision making is being done by the wrong people. Some people believe there is a routine for every treatment, a business as usual approach to healthcare and managing a hospital. Bad behaviour and poor performance isn't just ignored, it is rewarded and if the NHS can get something done to a minimum quality of care they will. That is why there is an increase in unqualified staff acting as qualified doctors without disclosing it to the patient. Again the DoctorsUK Reddit forum has discussions about this and these massive failures are why many of them want to jump ship and work in other countries.

Sorry to hear you have been let down too. I always wanted to run a charity and website to help people who aren't getting proper support with bullying and healthcare. Something that was more than just pointing people elsewhere, something that developed a lot of clout to get things done. I'm barely able to function now so that idea is unachievable for me.
I wish I had advice for you other than keep trying even if you don't expect a result, which sounds like promoting futilty more than being actual help.

I was actually shocked the other day when a 'first response' therapist who has been helping me said she is unable to do anything about how the NHS treated me because the NHS don't respond to her requests to discuss it. I said to her she should be the one person who is able to just command then to have to provide her with any information she asks for and to listen to her stating the facts. But they are ignoring her because they know they have done wrong.

These are the issues the government should be dealing with instead of blocking sites like this that give someone the comfort they are missing from the system that is failing them.

I do feel for you and everyone who has been marginalised from society due to our disabilities, neurodivergences, vulnerabilities and then trying to battle it out to be supported by the NHS. I have given up on them - stopped using the hospital after May 2021 and stopped using the GP's surgery during summer this year which has also led to me stopping all meds. I see the NHS clinical psychologist and I think I have about 10 sessions left with her - she recommended trauma therapy as my next stop which I have turned down as the system is a broken system and most interactions seem to be mechanical and authoritative. Just decided that I will try and live for ad long as I can manage for the sake of my children - but also recognise that my time is nearing as without meds and support, the struggle is getting worse. I wish there was a unified voice from those of us who have been marginalised to howbthe NHS could help - but the mainstream wouldn't want to listen or action any suggestions. And I am tired of fighting for justice all the time.

Good Luck and I hope that your therapist remains helpful. Take care.

 

[Stinger4771]

I would rather have the NHS we have than no NHS at all.

I like to underline that whenever I complain about the NHS. For every let down, it has saved a life.

 

[Kit1]

I would rather have the NHS we have than no NHS at all.

I like to underline that whenever I complain about the NHS. For every let down, it has saved a life.

That is so true. They do save a lot of lives and for that, I am.totally grateful. It is just unfortunate that there are health inequalities for people with vulnerabilities - and similar inequalities within our education system, welfare system, judicial system etc. Though we have a good civil and public service overall - the system works better for people from the mainstream. Just wish that equity opposed to equality is considered and practised.