NSFW Trigger Warning : Nashville school shooter final online messages to friend before shooting

[Painless_end]

Trigger Warning : The final messages sent by 28 year old shooter online to their friend.

The shooter shot dead 6 people including 3 children in a school of which they were a former student during their childhood.

Suicide can be harsh, but taking innocent lives before you go is the epitome of evil.

 

[Danielwc]

Yes, you are right. There is no excuse for killing before you go. She/he, whatever the fuck this human being identified as was sick. They hated the world and wanted to make a statement. If there is no soul and we cease to exist upon death then who cares? The whole world could burn and it wouldn't mean a thing. If, however, we live on and life does matter I wouldn't like to be in their shoes.

 

[FuneralCry]

I thought that this was a pro choice suicide discussion that respects suicide as being a personal choice rather than being a place to discuss true crime.

 

[Iva]

I think this will make all of you hate me when I say this...
... but every time I hear about school shootings or church shootings in the news I'm always so jealous of the victims. They get to be at peace and immortalized forever in American society and all they had to do was pick up their backpack and go to school that day. Why couldn't it be me?

I'm also jealous that the shooter got to die via death by cop. We all know how trigger happy people with authority positions are and I know for a fact those donut munching fucks lit her the fuck up emptying the entire magazine into her body because police officers are notorious cowards. My stringent anti-authoritarian worldview would reach a truly poetic end if an authority figure such as a cop was what did me in. As authority is what I despised the most in this world, it would be a work of art if authority is what lead to my attainment of peace.

 

[AnonymousTomato]

She/he, whatever the fuck this human being identified as was sick

He. And yes, he was very sick.

But why am I seeing so many people referring to him as "they" and "he/she"? News flash, you can be trans and a terrible human being at the same time. Just because someone is awful doesn't give us license to bring their gender identity into question.

There are so many people on this forum who are trans and are here because the world is not a hospitable place for trans people. I am one of them. Don't make it worse.

 

[stoopid]

How can someone be that kind of dick and evil aushole, why are you taking innocent lives? Top tier bullshit and now anti trans hate is gonna grow more. So sad, I swear I hope he don't get peace and just big dick with spikes from afterlife entity.

 

[sorrow_sparrow]

we all agree that forced to live is a misery for some of us, that is why we meet each others here
and I think forced to die for them who wants to live is a misery for them also and a crime

I think that is a true pro choice supposed to be, you choose to live or to exit, you just don't shove it to each others throat anything

we just take our own, not others
we take what we possessed, not steal others

takes others just a coward act and cruel excuse to be famous, just livestreamed your exit at a crowd square, or in front of giant urban media's office, guarantee you will be center of a hellish attention

just my view... lets respect each others choice include theirs, who is still want to see sunshine in the morning everyday ( live )

 

[umjammertranner]

But why am I seeing so many people referring to him as "they" and "he/she"? News flash, you can be trans and a terrible human being at the same time. Just because someone is awful doesn't give us license to bring their gender identity into question.

Actually that's exactly why it's being brought up. There are mass shootings that happen every goddamn week in the US and the only reason people are brining gender or sexuality into it with this one is because they can. People will take any opportunity to be (casually or incredibly) transphobic, a mass shooting is just another piece of ammo for them in the culture war.

Ironically i've seen a lot of trans people today talk about arming themselves BECAUSE the fallout from this event is gonna be catastrophic. (despite the fact that out of the literal thousands of shootings in the US in the last 5 years only three of the perps have been trans)

 

[lebrodude]

Absolutely vile act.
No excuse for doing something like that.

 

[OceanBlue]

We can only harm in self-defense, but damn there are so many transphobic republicans in the US and he chose to kill defenseless children, how did his brain justify this.. deeply traumatizing news.

 

[Iva]

He. And yes, he was very sick.

But why am I seeing so many people referring to him as "they" and "he/she"? News flash, you can be trans and a terrible human being at the same time. Just because someone is awful doesn't give us license to bring their gender identity into question.

There are so many people on this forum who are trans and are here because the world is not a hospitable place for trans people. I am one of them. Don't make it worse.

Sorry, in my comment I referred to him as "she" because I was misinformed and thought he was a transgirl (mtf). I didn't mean to misgender him if he is a transboy (ftm). I'm not living in the US and I'm underinformed on the situation, admittedly.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

No person has a right to decide whether someone else has a right to life, and that includes the state and their executions of death penalty inmates. Obviously, this person had deep emotional issues that few can understand. Still, taking out one's inner hostility on others, particularly innocent children, only robs them of their right to decide (in the future) whether they want to be here or not, and that is antithetical to the entire pro-choice mantra. This person had choices, one being to leave the state of Tennessee and relocating to a more trans-friendly location. Even if this Christian school contributed to this person's loathing and hatred of themselves, it still does not provide license for them to seek revenge by killing innocent people. If their life was that hopeless, they should have just taken their own life.

 

[saltero]

Trigger Warning : The final messages sent by 28 year old shooter online to their friend.

The shooter shot dead 6 people including 3 children in a school of which they were a former student during their childhood.

Suicide can be harsh, but taking innocent lives before you go is the epitome of evil.

It is so frustrating to me how they would kill innocent children before dying. They talk about desperately needing to die whilst having multiple guns they could've used to ctb. To make matters worse, the news tries to spin this in some way to show trans people to be psychopathic killers.

 

[Viranamari]

Murder is despicable. Suicide should be accepted but murder is taking away someone else's life without their consent. People like him make existence more sufferable and increase paranoia of people. I can't imagine how the victims felt. He probably had some frustrations and wanted to take them out on others. Society has failed to help him in the worst possible way. From the messages, he seemed like he had loved ones and leaving them is certainly difficult. If only people were less transphobic and accept others' personal choices.

 

[itsallpointless]

This wouldn't have happened if euthanasia was legal. Just saying

 

[FacePALM]

This wouldn't have happened if euthanasia was legal. Just saying

It probably would still have happened. Even if euthanasia was legal ( in my country it is), for mental health reasons to qualify for it is incredibly difficult.

 

[SexyIncél]

Does anyone have the manifesto? It looks like only the police have a copy and no one leaked it?

People always get weird when I read manifestos, but their introspections are very useful to predict these things

 

[glitterypearls]

I thought that this was a pro choice suicide discussion that respects suicide as being a personal choice rather than being a place to discuss true crime.

It's not true crime, It's relating to suicide based on the messages because sadly a lot of younger people believe that their suicide need to be this huge thing that make the news, there is a lot of them who have this logic "I'm dying and taking people with me". I think users should be allowed to talk about things like that in an environment that won't judge us which is this environment. stop gate-keeping what others can and can't post here. if you do that then you are no better than other communities who police what can and can't be posted. most people who post here have no family or friends to talk to about things, let them have space here to post, you don't think it fit your idea of what this discussion should be? you can always skip reading it. I say all of that with love of course.

what the person did is disgusting, I'm all for pro choice but don't take innocent people with you. sadly I met few people on reddit who had the same logic "why should I die alone? I'm taking people with me" mostly 18yo and 19yo though. still pathetic and disgusting.

 

[KarmicRain]

I think the people do awful things when they plan to die do so because they will no longer be held accountable for their actions after death, especially when their moral compass is completely busted. it might actually be the thing that lead them there. Must've experienced a certain hell being alive and wanted to leave something behind to be remembered. something of a mark that says "I was here." It's fucked up but humans are fucked up.

 

[Earth Sucks!]

Suicide can be harsh, but taking innocent lives before you go is the epitome of evil.

and taking "guilty lives" ... is that good enough???

we all need to be some kind of "dexter" before we go... politicians, bankers, etc are the best stereotype of "guilty lives" to erase from the earth before leaving... never understood those cowards going to school to kill some kids or teachers

 

[CentreMid]

It's not true crime, It's relating to suicide based on the messages because sadly a lot of younger people believe that their suicide need to be this huge thing that make the news, there is a lot of them who have this logic "I'm dying and taking people with me". I think users should be allowed to talk about things like that in an environment that won't judge us which is this environment. stop gate-keeping what others can and can't post here. if you do that then you are no better than other communities who police what can and can't be posted. most people who post here have no family or friends to talk to about things, let them have space here to post, you don't think it fit your idea of what this discussion should be? you can always skip reading it. I say all of that with love of course.

what the person did is disgusting, I'm all for pro choice but don't take innocent people with you. sadly I met few people on reddit who had the same logic "why should I die alone? I'm taking people with me" mostly 18yo and 19yo though. still pathetic and disgusting.

I can't speak for FuneralCry, but I was also under the impression that this wasn't related to suicide either until I read the rest of the post. Even then, I think it's the way this whole post is framed/phrased.

Of course I don't agree with dragging other people into one's suicide, and OP does state that point at the very end, but I think, for these types of posts at least, a suicide-first wording would have saved some of us some confusion, like: "Dragging others into your suicide is wrong. The recent shooting in Nashville is a good example of this because… etc." that way, we know what the point is and can comment more productively and effectively.

Anywho, I'm not going to tell people how to format their posts or whatever, it's not my writing. But this might be why some of us have taken this post the wrong way (for lack of better words)

 

[Salvation_]

This wouldn't have happened if euthanasia was legal. Just saying

They shot up an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. This person knew what they were doing. They did not want to go out peacefully.

 

[glitterypearls]

I can't speak for FuneralCry, but I was also under the impression that this wasn't related to suicide either until I read the rest of the post. Even then, I think it's the way this whole post is framed/phrased.

Of course I don't agree with dragging other people into one's suicide, and OP does state that point at the very end, but I think, for these types of posts at least, a suicide-first wording would have saved some of us some confusion, like: "Dragging others into your suicide is wrong. The recent shooting in Nashville is a good example of this because… etc." that way, we know what the point is and can comment more productively and effectively.

Anywho, I'm not going to tell people how to format their posts or whatever, it's not my writing. But this might be why some of us have taken this post the wrong way (for lack of better words)

or people should read the entire post before commenting? or AT LEAST read the actual text messages in the picture. would take less time then typing a a long comment about how this post shouldn't be allowed here. It's literally 3 lines post with two pictures.

They shot up an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. This person knew what they were doing. They did not want to go out peacefully.

someone finally said it, I dunno why some are almost defending it, or even having empathy for the person. they didn't wanna commit suicide peacefully, all they wanted is some attention and they sadly got it and took 6 innocent life with them :(

 

[Unending]

They shot up an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. This person knew what they were doing. They did not want to go out peacefully.

Yeah, I would say that it's safe to assume no one who only wants to die is going to mass murder on their way out unless they also want to murder.

 

[6MillionWaystoDie]

Its amazing to me that in this day and age a person received a message like that, even referencing that a potential future incident could be on the news and the only response this person provided was about God keeping and covering them.

The response is quite lazy, flippant and rings of a useless platitude. I'd be embarrassed. But my personal opinion is that the person really didn't GAF. I'm shocked others haven't expressed anger with that person. Unless this person has been living a rock, I'd render this response unacceptable.

 

[CentreMid]

or people should read the entire post before commenting? or AT LEAST read the actual text messages in the picture. would take less time then typing a a long comment about how this post shouldn't be allowed here. It's literally 3 lines post with two pictures.

I didn't say your post shouldn't be allowed. I did read the full post before I commented, and was just explaining why some people who didn't may have taken it the wrong way.

 

[Mthom2]

I just hope this monster didn't frequent this site. That would be all we need...

 

[Touhou]

In all honesty, watching that lowlife get pumped full of lead on Engelbert & Collazo's bodycam footage was immensely satisfying, to say the least. He literally shot up an elementary school; he deserved worse.

 

[that smell]

This wouldn't have happened if euthanasia was legal. Just saying

How can you be sure? It should be available and would help in many cases but I don't see any reason to think that would change anything here. Clearly there was intent to take other's lives as well. Why else would he have shot children? Maybe if it was just suicide by cop I'd be more inclined to agree.

 

[H.O.Xan]

I thought that this was a pro choice suicide discussion that respects suicide as being a personal choice rather than being a place to discuss true crime.

oh cmon, it's CTB related after all