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CivilizationV

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May 21, 2020
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I certainly do understand people's desperation. However, people here who keep bringing up the train method have access to other methods on this site.

Most often, people who attempt suicide by train end up living but the damage done to them is terrible and they might end up in a wheelchair, unable to do anything for themselves. You can't ctb if you're paralyzed.

I if I were in a situation where I had no access to Sn, or N and I was desperate to end my life, I would research the other methods on this site.

Again, I understand that people can be desperate but desperation creates impulsivity and impulsivity creates clouded judgement. If you're going to ctb, you should not have clouded judgement nor should it be impulsive.

Those are my thoughts.

And yes, I truly believe that for some, suicide by train is some sort of fetish. Talking about it, fantasizing about, talking about the proper head placement in the tracks, decapitation etc... just like for some people, limb amputation is a fetish, so is suicide by train.

And if you combine amputation fetish with machine fetish you get someone who is constantly thinking and wanting to talk about decapitation by train. See links below.

Amputation fetish link:


Machinery fetish link:


Have I opened your eyes a little? Thats addressed to the entire ss community.

The thing is that this naive society is forcing me to choose this method as the most painless and quickest, when I could get a gun (or get shooted by something, which is cheaper), nitrogen, or some other pill that i'm sure it could be made, if the objective was that people get access to suicide.

I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Getting a gun is quite difficult, and expensive. Getting N and the right set up, it's also quite difficult and expensive, since I have some health issues that render me quite weak lately, both in cognitive and physical sense. Hanging would be similar, I might fail and it wouldn't be painless. My GI tract and colon are screwed, so SN doesn't give me much hope.

If there are some people who have survived this, I would be getting more out of this thread by looking at those examples, but I do appreciate the input for trying to understand perspective and alternatives. It's just that, it's fucking society that's pushing me towards this particular method. And I have money, tools for research and time.

I have a gunshop 1 block from home, but I cannot get one without:
- Training (and we are 80 days in quarantine in Argentina, and they keep making it longer).
- Verification from one or two doctors/psychiatrists.
- It's not cheap, but maybe relatives could sell it afterwards.

I wouldn't choose this method if It wasn't the only one which is easier for me. I'm actually thinking I'm gonna try hanging, and if I fail, and somehow manage to get out of a hospital, I'll head directly to a train, with my middle finger up.

The argument about trauma: here's the thing, we cut and kill lots of animals, and dismember them so we can eat. Just because people live in their own world, and forget that there are people in pain who don't have access to a quick death and get freezed when it happens, and get traumatized, is something that people will have to learn to endure, adapt, or understand that, for it not to happen, there needs to be a serious addressing to this issues. I'm in constant physical pain, i'm not making a lazy excuse for doing it.
 
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Most often, people who attempt suicide by train end up living but the damage done to them is terrible and they might end up in a wheelchair, unable to do anything for themselves.
Has this any substance, is there any evidence other than anecdotal or is it just an assumption? Because my assumption would be the opposite.
 
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StateOfMind

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Has this any substance, is there any evidence other than anecdotal or is it just an assumption? Because my assumption would be the opposite.
I feel like there is allot of scare mongering and people trying to push there own agenda. Quite tasteless and spammy really considering this is a pro choice platform.
 
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Taraxias

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Feb 22, 2020
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I think the best position would be standing up infrond of the coming train.just my opinion
 
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ugly_loser2008

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i find decapitation appealing oops i lost my ugly ass head
 
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HadEnough1974

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Jan 14, 2020
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Has this any substance, is there any evidence other than anecdotal or is it just an assumption? Because my assumption would be the opposite.
I've seen statistics somewhere. It's called suicide by transit. It's broken down by categories.
The thing is that this naive society is forcing me to choose this method as the most painless and quickest, when I could get a gun (or get shooted by something, which is cheaper), nitrogen, or some other pill that i'm sure it could be made, if the objective was that people get access to suicide.

I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Getting a gun is quite difficult, and expensive. Getting N and the right set up, it's also quite difficult and expensive, since I have some health issues that render me quite weak lately, both in cognitive and physical sense. Hanging would be similar, I might fail and it wouldn't be painless. My GI tract and colon are screwed, so SN doesn't give me much hope.

If there are some people who have survived this, I would be getting more out of this thread by looking at those examples, but I do appreciate the input for trying to understand perspective and alternatives. It's just that, it's fucking society that's pushing me towards this particular method. And I have money, tools for research and time.

I have a gunshop 1 block from home, but I cannot get one without:
- Training (and we are 80 days in quarantine in Argentina, and they keep making it longer).
- Verification from one or two doctors/psychiatrists.
- It's not cheap, but maybe relatives could sell it afterwards.

I wouldn't choose this method if It wasn't the only one which is easier for me. I'm actually thinking I'm gonna try hanging, and if I fail, and somehow manage to get out of a hospital, I'll head directly to a train, with my middle finger up.

The argument about trauma: here's the thing, we cut and kill lots of animals, and dismember them so we can eat. Just because people live in their own world, and forget that there are people in pain who don't have access to a quick death and get freezed when it happens, and get traumatized, is something that people will have to learn to endure, adapt, or understand that, for it not to happen, there needs to be a serious addressing to this issues. I'm in constant physical pain, i'm not making a lazy excuse for doing it.

I'm with you. I hope it works out. The standing position or laying down head first toward the train. The blunt force alone might do it. Good luck.

As for the trauma to the driver etc, suicide in itself is a selfish act. All that matters is that your pain and existence disappears. When I say it's a selfish act I don't mean to put the person down. It's not said in a bad way. It's about ending your pain, period.
 
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CivilizationV

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I've seen statistics somewhere. It's called suicide by transit. It's broken down by categories.


I'm with you. I hope it works out. The standing position or laying down head first toward the train. The blunt force alone might do it. Good luck.

As for the trauma to the driver etc, suicide in itself is a selfish act. All that matters is that your pain and existence disappears. When I say it's a selfish act I don't mean to put the person down. It's not said in a bad way. It's about ending your pain, period.

I don't think suicide is a selfish act in all cases. I cannot work nor produce for people, am I suppose to stay alive just because? I'm only in this position cause relatives are paying for the costs of me not being able to work.

I just brought pain, but it's accompanied by disability.
 
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