Method Train MEGATHREAD

[Marktheghost]

I'm no expert, this information is based on what I've read online.

The best way of killing yourself this way is probably lying with your neck on the railway track, so the train decapitates you. Do it on a high speed train line, near a blind bend.

Advantages: should be quick, and therefore reasonably painless. I can't guarantee that though, as I said, I'm no expert.

Please feel free to discuss other advantages and disadvantages.

I did ask the mods for permission before creating this thread, but got no reply.

 

[randomz]

It's good to create a megathred about a method that had none before, but the general opinion about train CTB on this forum is not very favorable - we are mainly concerned about the consequences that the driver and the witnesses to the CTB will suffer. Using this method you can relieve yourself from the burden of life but you might put a life's burden to someone else.

 

[Soulless_Angel]

@Hasssssuùuu ....

 

[Broken Chimera]

What's with the fixation with train suicides lately? It's a bad idea because you're making someone kill you. That might destroy the drivers mental health and they might kill themselves over it. It's a bad idea.

 

[StateOfMind]

What's with the fixation with train suicides lately? It's a bad idea because you're making someone kill you. That might destroy the drivers mental health and they might kill themselves over it. It's a bad idea.

Some people have no other option..

 

[Soulless_Angel]

What's with the fixation with train suicides lately? It's a bad idea because you're making someone kill you. That might destroy the drivers mental health and they might kill themselves over it. It's a bad idea.

I won't be able to find the post but a while back, talking last year, someone posted about train suicide, someone replied that they didn't care about the effect on the train driver etc as they wouldn't be around to effected by it!!

Some people have no other option..

there are plenty of options

 

[StateOfMind]

"there are plenty of options"

You don't know peoples circumstances.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/advice-for-jumping-in-front-of-a-train.38663/

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I understand the desperation behind this method. But these threads never end well. There's too many moral and ethical concerns involved and members usually end up bickering over it.

I'd be very surprised if this thread doesn't get deleted or locked.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I was one of those moralizers, but have since changed my mind.

Discussion should be open and free. I personally would not do it, that is all. Everybody has his own moral intuitions or notions. Train ctb is a common method, so it deserves a megathread.

 

[Soulless_Angel]

I was one of those moralizers, but have since changed my mind.

Discussion should be open and free. I personally would not do it, that is all. Everybody has his own moral intuitions or notions. Train ctb is a common method, so it deserves a megathread.

depends, if this site was private I would agree, but as it's an open forum, and a forum we need to protect, then bringing other people into our choice to CTB is wrong and shouldn't be encouraged, which in a way this thread does in a roundabout way

 

[a.n.kirillov]

depends, if this site was private I would agree, but as it's an open forum, and a forum we need to protect, then bringing other people into our choice to CTB is wrong and shouldn't be encouraged, which in a way this thread does in a roundabout way

Well where do you draw the line? What about parents with young children taking their lives? Is it morally permissable? What about a therapist? He has people depending on him. What about the aftermath of jumping vs poisoning?

Etc etc etc ... this is more a meta question about the philosophy and guidelines of the forum, which is to be discussed somewhere else. You can open a thread about it in the feedback section for example.

 

[Thatdude]

Something to note is the random element. You can't control much when it comes to this method. So I would think there is a real chance there is a % out there where it won't work.

Now as far as death method. I think it cutting off your head is bad since you will still live for as long as your brain has what it needs. I think having it crush your skull would be better. But this is random and who knows if you will feel it.

There is too much random in this for me to want to do this.

 

[Broken Chimera]

someone replied that they didn't care about the effect on the train driver etc as they wouldn't be around to effected by it!!

It's that mindset that made people want to ctb in the first place, not caring about who gets hurt by their actions.

there are plenty of options

This. Early on I thought about using a train but there's no reason to damage someone like that, even if I'm not around to see the effects of it. No reason to hurt someone who's never hurt me.

 

[Soulless_Angel]

Well where do you draw the line? What about parents with young children taking their lives? Is it morally permissable? What about a therapist? He has people depending on him.

Don't you ever bring up the parent card with me, don't you fuclkig dare..I am a parent.....My story is known on here, Ill repeat it if I have to, but as a parent don't dare mention about moralls when it comes to parent hood, I am drunk, Ill forget this in the am, but willing right now to argue this shit to the ends

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This. Early on I thought about using a train but there's no reason to damage someone like that, even if I'm not around to see the effects of it. No reason to hurt someone who's never hurt me.

Ive seen some shit on social media in regards to train deaths recently, and by hell they have effected me, most suicide videos I can empathise and sympathise , but train deaths, I feel uncomfortable and turn off within a second,

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I don't argue the validity of a megathread, because this is a site for the open discussion of the hazards, pitfalls, and best practices for effective methods. There is no doubt that suicide by train (and conductor if not automated) is an effective method, but morals and ethics particularly come into play, and it is part of making an informed decision to consider them with as much weight as how to how to effectively perform the method. With that in mind, I share this link that, although presented with a pro-life slant, includes the perspective of train conductors -- how often they are involved in passively-attempted suicides, how they are personally impacted, and what support they receive, which is sometimes not enough. I think the conductors deserve a voice in this discussion, too.

Passive means of suicide are arguably the most contentious topic on this site: by train conductor, cop, or car driver. They are methods completed by objects that are wielded by humans for specific intended purposes that do not include enacting another's suicide, and these humans are forced to participate without their informed consent. Pro-choice does not extend to them.

I compassionately recognize there are gray areas. One may be pressured by immediate circumstances, and/or unable to access a method that is as certain, or that may be more painful or of longer duration. I would suggest when weighing things out to consider, What would you do if trains didn't exist? Such a consideration may allow new insights to arise that were otherwise hidden behind a big ol' train.

 

[HorribleFeelings1]

Yooo they done did a train megathread

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I'm no expert, this information is based on what I've read online.

The best way of killing yourself this way is probably lying with your neck on the railway track, so the train decapitates you.

But I am I have seen countless of train decapitation suicides online all successfull and painless it´s like a guilotine and imo it´s 100% certain death even as soon as today I saved a link of a couple doing this method together if you want the link I can post it or PM it, and the speed of the train doesn´t matter the weight of the train will do the trick it could go 5 km/h and still do the trick I have never seen anyone suffer from this method; people jumping in front of the train or choose to be cut in half is another matter plenty of those people have suffered before dying but train decapitation is foolproof imo if you got the nerve to lay there.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

The most important thing seems to be to not jump in front of a train, but to lay ones head on the train tracks and wait. Or to hide behind a bush or a bridge pier and then sprint up to the tracks and lay your head on the tracks.

Don't you ever bring up the parent card with me, don't you fuclkig dare..I am a parent.....My story is known on here, Ill repeat it if I have to, but as a parent don't dare mention about moralls when it comes to parent hood, I am drunk, Ill forget this in the am, but willing right now to argue this shit to the ends


Ive seen some shit on social media in regards to train deaths recently, and by hell they have effected me, most suicide videos I can empathise and sympathise , but train deaths, I feel uncomfortable and turn off within a second,

I think you didn't get what I was saying; but you are demonstrating that it is true right here.

 

[watereyes]

Some of the underground trains in Paris have no drivers.. dont know which ones tho.

 

[Soulless_Angel]

The most important thing seems to be to not jump in front of a train, but to lay ones head on the train tracks and wait. Or to hide behind a bush or a bridge pier and then sprint up to the tracks and lay your head on the tracks.

I think you didn't get what I was saying; but you are demonstrating that it is true right here.

I use this sentence of yours:

Well where do you draw the line? What about parents with young children taking their lives? Is it morally permissable?


Is morally permissible? when is it not, when it is OK? A question that cannot be answered clearly, as everyone's situation is different, but bringing someone into a suicide is so very wrong on every level!

 

[Vickyalmighty]

I don't recommend sleeping on the tracks or jump before train because our body will become into pieces and the train that hit will definitely stop and some one has to clear the corpse which is very bad for the sighters including passengers in train.

Rather than this the best idea is to catch the current wires running over the train which will cause sudden death. You can see video on YouTube as well of that. If you don't get video PM me.

 

[Nohopeinhell]

Please dont do this method.

My dad was a train driver and someone committed suicide this way. It left him with severe mental health issues and he ended up with PTSD. He replayed the moment of the young adult who committed suicide every single minute of every single day.

He needed to get therapy which never helped. He barely slept as all he could see was that day over and over in his head.

He used to have panic attacks which then left him un able to leave the house at all. He got admitted to a unit eventually as he went crazy. This impacted his life so much he himself commited suicide. I don't know full detials of it all as I was much younger but he was happy and had the career he always wanted to do and 1 person decided to end their life and it resulted in my father ending his because of them.

 

[HorribleFeelings1]

"there are plenty of options"

You don't know peoples circumstances.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/advice-for-jumping-in-front-of-a-train.38663/

If you're desperate to get ran over by a train then you'll surely be desperate to even drink bleach or OD on pills, trust, there is plenty of options.
When you try to commit suicide by getting ran over by a car or train, it won't be just about you anymore. Suicide should be a decision set for yourself. Don't include people into that. My first attempt was trying to get ran over and I regret it till this day, I don't regret not dying but regret almost permanently scarring a person.

 

[Lost_the_will2_live]

Seeing how it effects train drivers for the rest of their lives is a wake up call imo :(

 

[autumnal]

Seeing how it effects train drivers for the rest of their lives is a wake up call imo :(

That's the second most profound, emotional train-related video I've seen besides this...

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No but in all seriousness, don't be the kind of person who uses the train method (or similarly with cars, suicide-by-cop etc.). There is certainly valid argument about where to draw the line with attempts that affect other innocent people to varying degrees (witnesses/family/friends/colleagues), but train suicide (and the others) are well and truly at one extreme end of that continuum and are just morally reprehensible behaviour.

If you don't feel like you have any other options than train suicide, you actually do. It's called not suiciding. Not suiciding may require you to endure the pain of living (at least temporarily until another method becomes available), but at least it is your own pain to endure. It certainly doesn't belong to the train driver, and it's never fair to force it upon them.

Additionally, people who claim to have no other method besides train suicide (and the others) are generally incorrect. They just prefer the perceived quickness of that method compared to others. But that quickness comes at the cost of severe trauma to the driver, and is never OK.

It's also important to understand that, as members of a suicide forum, we generally have an attitude to life, death and suicide that is a lot different from that of normal people. So while we may assume that if we were train drivers we would be relatively unfazed by witnessing a suicide, that is certainly not how 'normal' people would experience it.

 

[StateOfMind]

Should be a reliable method.. according to lost all hope around a 90% success rate.

There are some factors to consider though such as your position and the speed / shape of the train. Apart from that its pretty straight forward.

Lost all hope
https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/jumping-under-train

Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/suicide-by-train-is-in-decline-but-deaths-of-people-who-trespassed-on-railroad-tracks-increased-in-2017

Suicide on railway networks: epidemiology, risk factors and prevention
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs...scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=ianp20

Predictors of using trains as a suicide method: findings from Victoria, Australia
https://minerva-access.unimelb.edu....d=83D5FC6238495DA35D4EEFC2FC0FC55E?sequence=3

Behaviours preceding suicides at railway and underground locations: a multimethodological qualitative approach
https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/8/4/e021076

 

[rhiino]

The society wants to keep suicidal people alive against their will and wants to take every method away, especially the peaceful ones, even when somebody is in extreme pain and agony.
Actually considering this I understand everybody who does not care about the people involved in a train suicide anymore, for they are part of that gruesome pro-life machinery.

 

[BridgeJumper]

I feel really bad about this, but many times when standing on the railway bridge I had a strong urge to lie down in front of a train passing through it. I actually tried it at least 3 times - twice intentionally, once unintentionally (after wicked drug binge)
I feel like Im extremely considerate of others and I dont want to potentially traumatize 60 or so people, but that urge...I cant get over it. I just stare at the tracks and blank out, like some weird vehicular l'appel du vide.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Some people have no other option..

There was a case in 2009 where a famous German billionaire in the pharmacutical business lost his entire fortune. This is a man could have easily used his industry connections to procure N or SN or any other drug (as well as information for proper use) yet he opted to take his life via train. All the articles about him assert that he jumped. Jumping of course has a good probability of working, though there are those who survive only to become disfigured or paralyzed. Still, one has to wonder why he chose the train.

Adolf Merckle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's also important to understand that, as members of a suicide forum, we generally have an attitude to life, death and suicide that is a lot different from that of normal people. So while we may assume that if we were train drivers we would be relatively unfazed by witnessing a suicide, that is certainly not how 'normal' people would experience it.

This calls in to question of what is the 'norm' today. Here in the States, the average person has very low value. The exception would be unless one is a celebrity. Honestly in such a situation, I see the passengers on a train being angry and annoyed because "some asshole jumped in front of the train, and now we have to wait it out.....fuck I'm going to be late meeting my friends in the city!".

One might argue that any train conductor
who would be traumatized is putting on a dog-and-pony-show for both, the public and his doctors in order to optimize his or her benefits.

I don't mean to be cynical, but conductors are trained for this as part and parcel of their job. And the current zeitgeist people simply do seem to give a shit about Human life anyway.

 

[Saed]

I was vehemently against doing anything like this,because of the effect on the train driver and passengers (myself,I mean,it was a personal stance I took. Not judging others,and the decisions they are forced to make)
However,after so many failures and ineffectual methods,I think what happens is,we're looking at the mechanism of the thing. 100% deadly,efficient,quick - if your nerve holds.
It maybe over rides all else when you get to a certain point of desperation.
Not to make light of it at all,but a train driver had a few suicides during his career. He told me (and I know it's an exception,rather than the rule.Most people would be devastated and need months and months of counselling but never get over it) that he'd simply think "There you are,mate. Glad to help you out of this world"
It's a tough one. I can't believe it's going through my head more often thesedays,simply because on a mechanical level,it will bring death.