Train decapitation questions

[SpentStardust]

First of all, I want to note that train is not my first option and I'm gonna try some other methods. If I can get SN I will, if testing with the night-night method or shallow water blackout works I'll do that. However I don't know if I'll be able to do that, I'm having some trouble with both of those methods and it's unlikely that I'll be able to get SN (I still live with my mom and it's a bit hard to justify getting 1kg of food additive in the mail).
There is a spot on the other side of my city where I can easily climb onto the tracks and no one should be able to see me. I've measured the speed of trains in that area, and it's been consistently ~100km/h for the train I intend to catch and even higher for other trains.
Doing some reading, it seems the best way is decapitation, 100% death rate and (allegedly) painless. Is it actually painless and how long until blackout after being decapitated?
Another very worrying thing is the front of the locomotive, which is this one:

that front thing is very low, so I'm afraid it'll hit my head and not allow my neck to touch the wheels, instead throwing me off the track.
This is another locomotive common on the line that I can access:

This one seems to have a higher front thing (not sure what it's called), so this one would probably work best.
The other option for me would be to just stand on the tracks, but it feels very risky because it would not guarantee my death. If it was a flat surface then maybe, making sure my head hits the train first, but both of those locomotives have those front bits sticking out.

 

[Anonperson1]

a few points...
1) If it goes wrong, you are going to have a life an order of magnitude worse than you think you have it now. Physical pain on top of your emotional pain. Every. Day.
2) you will fuck up the driver, and all the passengers will have their day ruined.
3) splat

 

[SpentStardust]

a few points...
1) If it goes wrong, you are going to have a life an order of magnitude worse than you think you have it now. Physical pain on top of your emotional pain. Every. Day.
2) you will fuck up the driver, and all the passengers will have their day ruined.
3) splat

I don't think I have a lot of options beside SN, night-night, shallow water blackout, and this. If I can't get SN or perform the other two properly, this is the only thing that remains. And if I position just my neck on the rails, only my head and neck should be in danger, meaning it's pretty much guaranteed to avoid damage to the rest of my body.

 

[makethepainstop]

I really hope that you don't do that. That is not a good idea, too many variables, high failure risk, serve structural damage to you. Study, yields better outcome.

 

[SpentStardust]

I really hope that you don't do that. That is not a good idea, too many variables, high failure risk, serve structural damage to you. Study, yields better outcome.

I'll consider all other methods. I've seen so many articles talking about people dying by getting hit by a train, about EMTs not being able to do anything for victims, that it seemed like a good method

 

[makethepainstop]

Dude it's one thing to get fitted for angel wings, and quite another to rot in a nursing home for decades.

 

[Hangman]

My only concern is "the front thing" you're talking about. Not sure if my neck and head fit under it and whether it would make death more painful by first squeezing my head under it, or like you said pushing my head off the track.

 

[Anonperson1]

And if I position just my neck on the rails, only my head and neck should be in danger, meaning it's pretty much guaranteed to avoid damage to the rest of my body.

SI will kick in for the seemingly eternal time it takes for the train to squish you. It it doesn't work, or you chicken out, well have fun in hospital...either being kept alive as a chunk of meat, or a padded cell.
I'd rather jump from the Italia Viaduct tbh...at least it's certain death

 

[SpentStardust]

Welp. Guess I'll have to avoid this method unless absolutely unavoidable and properly justified.

 

[Un-]

I feel like a lot of people have a disproportionately skewed view about this method. Big claims coming out of my mouth, though, with no other evidence other than the plethora of gore videos I've seen of people dying by train.

That front thing could be a problem if you're aiming for decapitation, but if you somehow, someway get hit by a train a while before it slows down at a train station, you will die really quickly. Keep in mind, it's a huge metal machine travelling at really high speeds.

Decapitation, from what I've seen, LOOKS relatively painless. My reference is beheading videos (I've seen way too many). Death arrives shortly afterwards. I haven't done the research, but apparently a lot of people believe that you remain conscious for a few seconds before you die. This was apparently based on how back in the day, people executed by guillotines.. Their heads would be seen to move - more specifically their eyes. This happens with relatively quick decapitations. Take that as you will.

I think it's best to look at research more than mine, or other people's words. But, from what I've seen.. At least in my opinion, I'd much rather die by train than jump off a building. But I think SN remains King, for now.

I hope I helped.

 

[Worndown]

Focus your energy on the other methods. Do what you know will work.

 

[p-funk]

The "front thing" is a Cowcatcher/Pilot.

A cowcatcher, also known as a pilot, is the device mounted at the front of a locomotive to deflect obstacles on the track that might otherwise damage or derail it or the train.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowcatcher

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I definitely think you would have issues for a successful CTB with this style of train having the cowcatcher on front. Decap is the only assured way of CTB with a train. Letting the train just run into you is too big a gamble.

 

[bluem00n]

See this screengrab of article from lostallhope.com about CTB by train ...

 

[spectraltease]

T

First of all, I want to note that train is not my first option and I'm gonna try some other methods. If I can get SN I will, if testing with the night-night method or shallow water blackout works I'll do that. However I don't know if I'll be able to do that, I'm having some trouble with both of those methods and it's unlikely that I'll be able to get SN (I still live with my mom and it's a bit hard to justify getting 1kg of food additive in the mail).
There is a spot on the other side of my city where I can easily climb onto the tracks and no one should be able to see me. I've measured the speed of trains in that area, and it's been consistently ~100km/h for the train I intend to catch and even higher for other trains.
Doing some reading, it seems the best way is decapitation, 100% death rate and (allegedly) painless. Is it actually painless and how long until blackout after being decapitated?
Another very worrying thing is the front of the locomotive, which is this one:

that front thing is very low, so I'm afraid it'll hit my head and not allow my neck to touch the wheels, instead throwing me off the track.
This is another locomotive common on the line that I can access:

This one seems to have a higher front thing (not sure what it's called), so this one would probably work best.
The other option for me would be to just stand on the tracks, but it feels very risky because it would not guarantee my death. If it was a flat surface then maybe, making sure my head hits the train first, but both of those locomotives have those front bits sticking out.

First, thanks for your post and these pictures.
The most ppl here, underrate trains. You need a curve, so the train driver can't react and has full speed to crush you or beheaded you. 50-100 km/h is enough for instant death, im sure. Yeah you could survive and have your whole life pain but if you lay with your neck on the tracks, your surviving rate is 0%. The train needs 30 km/h to crush you easily, and if you laying in a curve, he cant even react much and take the brake.
Ppl crying here about this method but I do the same lol.
Just plan as much as you can. Watch trains everyday for some weeks, so you will know what train will come and how their speed is.

 

[SpentStardust]

T

First, thanks for your post and these pictures.
The most ppl here, underrate trains. You need a curve, so the train driver can't react and has full speed to crush you or beheaded you. 50-100 km/h is enough for instant death, im sure. Yeah you could survive and have your whole life pain but if you lay with your neck on the tracks, your surviving rate is 0%. The train needs 30 km/h to crush you easily, and if you laying in a curve, he cant even react much and take the brake.
Ppl crying here about this method but I do the same lol.
Just plan as much as you can. Watch trains everyday for some weeks, so you will know what train will come and how their speed is.

There's a building right next to the rail I could hide behind. Trains go at 100 km/h there. The biggest issue is the cowcatcher, nearly all locomotives have it and it's pretty low.

 

[spectraltease]

There's a building right next to the rail I could hide behind. Trains go at 100 km/h there. The biggest issue is the cowcatcher, nearly all locomotives have it and it's pretty low.

Yes, but be prepared to laying in a good position (If you take this method). Maybe lay down and the face to the train or face to the ground. Dont face away because your back skrull is harder than your forehead. If you get hit my the cowcatcher in the face/forehead I think instantly dead.
The second model is better and high enough I think. Is the cowcatcher everywhere in ur country? Here in my country, the trains are better but they have a cowcatcher too but idk if they take it away after winter because its very low, lol. I can take other models too, I have time left to plan the rest.

 

[SpentStardust]

Yes, but be prepared to laying in a good position (If you take this method). Maybe lay down and the face to the train or face to the ground. Dont face away because your back skrull is harder than your forehead. If you get hit my the cowcatcher in the face/forehead I think instantly dead.
The second model is better and high enough I think. Is the cowcatcher everywhere in ur country? Here in my country, the trains are better but they have a cowcatcher too but idk if they take it away after winter because its very low, lol. I can take other models too, I have time left to plan the rest.

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The cowcatcher is in nearly all trains. Fairly sure it's there all year round. I can access the high speed line too but sometimes trains go quite slowly, and also most locomotives seem to have the front too close to the rail, even without cowcatcher. If I go with this method I'll go with the second train I showed.

 

[akirat9]

train look scary

 

[spectraltease]

The cowcatcher is in nearly all trains. Fairly sure it's there all year round. I can access the high speed line too but sometimes trains go quite slowly, and also most locomotives seem to have the front too close to the rail, even without cowcatcher. If I go with this method I'll go with the second train I showed.

Yeah, i checked the model and its on all arround its a lil higher than by your train. But works anyway if you laying down and place only the neck on the tracks and your head in the railway.

train look scary

Nah

 

[eldiablo666]

I feel like a lot of people have a disproportionately skewed view about this method. Big claims coming out of my mouth, though, with no other evidence other than the plethora of gore videos I've seen of people dying by train.

That front thing could be a problem if you're aiming for decapitation, but if you somehow, someway get hit by a train a while before it slows down at a train station, you will die really quickly. Keep in mind, it's a huge metal machine travelling at really high speeds.

Decapitation, from what I've seen, LOOKS relatively painless. My reference is beheading videos (I've seen way too many). Death arrives shortly afterwards. I haven't done the research, but apparently a lot of people believe that you remain conscious for a few seconds before you die. This was apparently based on how back in the day, people executed by guillotines.. Their heads would be seen to move - more specifically their eyes. This happens with relatively quick decapitations. Take that as you will.

I think it's best to look at research more than mine, or other people's words. But, from what I've seen.. At least in my opinion, I'd much rather die by train than jump off a building. But I think SN remains King, for now.

I hope I helped.

That's death rattle. No way you survive a millisecond after decap..

 

[ever so lonely]

seems a pretty nasty brutal way to go my friend, i couldnt go through with this method n or sn likely but not this, for anybody considering train as an outlet please consider if it goes wrong or doesnt go as intended you could end up a vegetable or worse, but still be here, please man just be careful is what i am saying, people that opt for this are so brave but think of the pros and cons, either way if you go ahead with it make damn well sure your ready, as this seems among the most brutal ways to go, i remember a story local to me where a woman jumped in front of a high speed train, she lost her legs but remained alive, they reckon it caused no end of trauma to others, that is what worries me, i want to go out for sure and am desperate like you op, but dont want to traumatise others in doing so, if i remember correctly the train driver never operated on the service again, or was laid off, something like that, this was on scot rail where i live, happens quite frequently apparently

 

[akirat9]

seems a pretty nasty brutal way to go my friend, i couldnt go through with this method n or sn likely but not this, for anybody considering train as an outlet please consider if it goes wrong or doesnt go as intended you could end up a vegetable or worse

sn/n do same if no done right right ?

 

[Un-]

That's death rattle. No way you survive a millisecond after decap..

I'm just the messager.

Avoid the comments. They're horrible. But I hope you see what I mean.

https://goregrish.com/threads/decapitated-and-still-looking.65484/

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A comment that goes more into detail. I'll try find the actual study if I can:
'Not only is it possible, but it's medically proven.' Debate on the subject raged ever since Charlotte Corday -- the assassin of Jean-Paul Marat -- was guillotined in 1793. The executioner's assistant, Francois le Gros, lifted her head by the hair, and slapped it on both cheeks. Eyewitnesses reported that the face took on an angry expression, and the cheeks visibly flushed. The debate was started -- if guillotining didn't produce instant death, then it wasn't a 'quick and merciful end', as promised by the post-Enlightenment revolutionaries. In 1794, German surgeon Dr S. T. Sommering argued in the Parisian newspapers that 'consciousness of feeling may persist [in a severed head] even if blood circulation is terminated, partial or weak [...] the head's strongest sensation would be the after-pain felt in the neck.' French doctors argued that he was confusing nervous spasms with sensory perceptions and voluntary motion. Little research was conducted on the subject, however, until the turn of the twentieth century, when another French doctor, Beaurieux, was permitted to make an investigation of a severed head, of a criminal called Languille, immediately after guillotining: "Here is what I was able to note immediately after the decapitation: the eyelids and lips of the decapitated man worked in irregularly rhythmic contractions for about 4 or 6 seconds. I waited several seconds longer. The spasmodic movements ceased. The face relaxed, the lids half-closed in the eyeballs, leaving only the white of the conjunctiva visible, exactly as in the dying whom we have occasion to see every day [...] It was then that I called in a strong, sharp, voice: 'Languille!' I then saw the eyelids slowly lift up, without any spasmodic contraction -- I insist advisedly on this pecularity -- but with an even movement, quite distinct and normal, such as happens in everyday life, with people awakened or torn from their thoughts. Next, Languille's eyes very definitely fixed themselves on mine and the pupils focused themselves. I was not, then, dealing with a vague dull look, without any expression that can be observed any day in dying people to whom one speaks: I was dealing with undeniably living eyes which were looking at me." By 1956, further research had proved, in the words of governemntal advisers Drs Piedelievre and Fournier, that "death [by decapitation] is not instantaneous [...] every vital element survives [...it is] a savage vivisection, followed by a premature burial." The French government abolished execution by decapitation in 1977.
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On another note, isn't death rattle a sound? I have a video on how it sounds like, following the suicide of a man via gunshot that I can send to you privately (I have no idea how to work the spoiler thing with videos). I think this decapitation thing and death rattle are two completely different things.

 

[eldiablo666]

I'm just the messager.

Avoid the comments. They're horrible. But I hope you see what I mean.

https://goregrish.com/threads/decapitated-and-still-looking.65484/

---
A comment that goes more into detail. I'll try find the actual study if I can:
'Not only is it possible, but it's medically proven.' Debate on the subject raged ever since Charlotte Corday -- the assassin of Jean-Paul Marat -- was guillotined in 1793. The executioner's assistant, Francois le Gros, lifted her head by the hair, and slapped it on both cheeks. Eyewitnesses reported that the face took on an angry expression, and the cheeks visibly flushed. The debate was started -- if guillotining didn't produce instant death, then it wasn't a 'quick and merciful end', as promised by the post-Enlightenment revolutionaries. In 1794, German surgeon Dr S. T. Sommering argued in the Parisian newspapers that 'consciousness of feeling may persist [in a severed head] even if blood circulation is terminated, partial or weak [...] the head's strongest sensation would be the after-pain felt in the neck.' French doctors argued that he was confusing nervous spasms with sensory perceptions and voluntary motion. Little research was conducted on the subject, however, until the turn of the twentieth century, when another French doctor, Beaurieux, was permitted to make an investigation of a severed head, of a criminal called Languille, immediately after guillotining: "Here is what I was able to note immediately after the decapitation: the eyelids and lips of the decapitated man worked in irregularly rhythmic contractions for about 4 or 6 seconds. I waited several seconds longer. The spasmodic movements ceased. The face relaxed, the lids half-closed in the eyeballs, leaving only the white of the conjunctiva visible, exactly as in the dying whom we have occasion to see every day [...] It was then that I called in a strong, sharp, voice: 'Languille!' I then saw the eyelids slowly lift up, without any spasmodic contraction -- I insist advisedly on this pecularity -- but with an even movement, quite distinct and normal, such as happens in everyday life, with people awakened or torn from their thoughts. Next, Languille's eyes very definitely fixed themselves on mine and the pupils focused themselves. I was not, then, dealing with a vague dull look, without any expression that can be observed any day in dying people to whom one speaks: I was dealing with undeniably living eyes which were looking at me." By 1956, further research had proved, in the words of governemntal advisers Drs Piedelievre and Fournier, that "death [by decapitation] is not instantaneous [...] every vital element survives [...it is] a savage vivisection, followed by a premature burial." The French government abolished execution by decapitation in 1977.
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On another note, isn't death rattle a sound? I have a video on how it sounds like, following the suicide of a man via gunshot that I can send to you privately (I have no idea how to work the spoiler thing with videos). I think this decapitation thing and death rattle are two completely different things.

Death rattle is the body's reaction to death. This involves sound as well but basically it's how nerve cells can behave after dying. They forcefully move certain body parts in a final act.
It's not that the body is alive it's just a reaction to death.