This is a delicate subject because the reasons why a person wants to commit suicide are as many as there are users in this forum. I for example, if I think I can help someone I try, I don't care if they are in recovery, in the Offtopic or in the suicide section, because sometimes I have met people who had a punctual crisis and the suicide was purely an impulsive act. Sometimes all it takes is a little bit of conversation to realize this.
And as to whether people get better, well, you never know, there are many people who do. When I went to high school there was everything and years later you would meet a classmate in the street that you didn't think would make it, he went from being hooked on drugs to working as a graphic designer in adulthood.
But there are also those who don't get better and die along the way, but it's not easy to know this when you're a teenager full of personal problems, so if I can help someone I'll try.
Other people I know from the forum are very clear about what they want and you share your day to day life with these users without any problem, there are people who don't need help to get better because they have simply decided to die and that's enough, with all legitimacy and a lot of respect from me.
I don't think there are pro-life users on the forum, because a pro-lifer does not advocate suicide under any circumstances. But if there are users with different views on suicide, there are radical positions, others more open to any line of thought ... in any case I'm here because I can not express myself freely about suicide with anyone outside this forum without getting into serious trouble and this helps me a lot to reflect freely ... and I appreciate it very much, really.
SaSu is a diverse community with many different ways of understanding suicide and that is very positive and healthy. Wanting to instate a particular line of thought or user will lose a lot of strength to the community as a whole. It is not good to reproach users for their attitude towards suicide just because they do not share the same thoughts as oneself.
We all defend, at least, that anyone can freely decide to end his or her life when he or she deems it necessary. Otherwise, any user should be free to give their point of view without being attacked by others. Not long ago there was a kind of public lynching against FuneralCry that I did not like at all and the same has happened with users opposed in thought to Funeral's.. there is like a kind of undeclared war that does no one any good .
We should not fight each other, let's respect each other and that's enough.
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Aquest Ă©s un tema delicat ja que els motius per els quals una persona vol poder suĂŻcidar-se son tants com usuaris tĂ© aquest fĂČrum. Jo per exemple si crec que puc ajudar algĂș ho intento, no m'importa si estĂ a recuperaciĂł, a l'Offtopic o a la secciĂł de suĂŻcidi perquĂš de vegades m'he trobat amb persones que tenien una crisi puntual i el suĂŻcidi era purament un acte impulsiu. De vegades nomĂ©s cal donar una mica de conversa per adonar-se d'aixĂČ.
I sobre si la gent se'n surt, doncs ves a saber, hi ha molta gent que si. Quan anava a l'Institut hi havĂa de tot i anys mĂ©s tard et trobaves algĂșn company de classe pel carrer que no pensaves pas que s'en sortĂrĂa, de esta enganxat a les drogues a treballar de dissenyador grĂ fic a l'etapa adulta.
PerĂČ tambĂ© hi ha que no s'en surten i moren pel camĂ, perĂČ no Ă©s pas fĂ cil de saber aixĂČ quan ets un adolescent ple de problemes personals, aixĂ que si puc ajudar algĂș ho intento.
D'altres persones que conec del fĂČrum tenen molt clar el que volen i comparteixes el teu dĂa a dĂa amb aquests usuaris sense que hi hagi cap problema, hi ha gent que no necessita ajuda per ensortir-se'n perquĂš simplement ha decidit morir i prou, amb tota legitimitat i molt de respecte per part meva.
No crec que hi hagi usuaris pro-vida al fĂČrum, doncs un pro-vida no defensa el suĂŻcidi sota cap concepte. PerĂČ si hi han usuaris amb punts de vista diferents sobre el suĂŻcidi, hi han postures radicals, d'altres mĂ©s obertes a qualsevol lĂnia de pensament.. en tot cas jo sĂłc aquĂ perquĂš no puc expressar-me lliurement sobre el suĂŻcidi amb ningĂș fora d'aquest fĂČrum sense posar-me en seriosos problemes i aixĂČ m'ajuda molt a reflexionar lliurement.. i ho agraeixo molt, de debĂł.
SaSu Ă©s una comunitat diversa amb moltes maneres diferents d'entendre el suĂŻcidi i aixĂČ Ă©s molt positiu i sĂ . Voler instaurar una linĂa de pensament o usuari concret farĂ perdre molta força a la comunitat en el seu conjunt. No Ă©s bĂČ retreure als usuaris la seva actitud cap el suĂŻcidi nomĂ©s per no compartir els mateixos pensaments que un mateix.
Tots defenem, com a mĂnim, que qualsevol persona pugui decidir lliurement posar fi a la seva vida quan ho consideri necessari. Fora d'aixĂČ, qualsevol usuari haurĂa de ser lliure de donar el seu punt de vista sense ser atacat pels altres. Fa poc temps va haver una espĂ©cie de linxament pĂșblic contra FuneralCry que no em va agradar gens i el mateix ha passat amb usuaris oposats en pensament al de Funeral.. hi ha com una espĂšcie de guerra no declarada que no ens fa cap bĂ© a ningĂș.
No em de lluĂŻtar entre nosaltres, respectem-nos i prou.