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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
So prior to my big session with the psychiatric team next Thursday, today I had a call with a couple of crisis team doctors to see how I was doing. I told them nothing had changed and that I was going to request euthanasia. They told me I had to mention this at the session on Thursday. Whether I will ever get offered this I really don't know, but i feel that because I'm not a young person I might have more chance. I live in the Netherlands by the way.
Im more than a little anxious for Thursday as there's going to be doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists there and I'm going to super nervous, it's going to feel like a job interview.
I won't tell family I'm officially asking for this as they are already worried. Anyone here in a similar situation?
 
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LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

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Jul 23, 2022
4,361
As much as I've longed to give have access to assisted death, the idea of having to talk to the doctors begging for them to agree you're fucked always felt so uncomfortable to me. I still wish I could relate more =).

Veel geluk.
 
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HopeAYandereStabsMe

HopeAYandereStabsMe

kinda new here I guess
Mar 7, 2023
1
So prior to my big session with the psychiatric team next Thursday, today I had a call with a couple of crisis team doctors to see how I was doing. I told them nothing had changed and that I was going to request euthanasia. They told me I had to mention this at the session on Thursday. Whether I will ever get offered this I really don't know, but i feel that because I'm not a young person I might have more chance. I live in the Netherlands by the way.
Im more than a little anxious for Thursday as there's going to be doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists there and I'm going to super nervous, it's going to feel like a job interview.
I won't tell family I'm officially asking for this as they are already worried. Anyone here in a similar situation?
damn man, out of all ways to go euthanasia seems the easiest (yes that's a bit morbid sry) please think carefully about this. (which I doubt you haven't but still). As I don't know your situation, hope the choice you make will be the right one.

Speaking from experience, psychiatrists don't let someone cease to exist that easily but if it's what you truly want I hope they'll allow it.

if you feel like it please keep us updated.
Have a great day/night man.

greetings from a fellow dutchman.
 
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Shadowlord900

Shadowlord900

Seeker of Darkness
Sep 29, 2022
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Im more than a little anxious for Thursday as there's going to be doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists there and I'm going to super nervous, it's going to feel like a job interview.
Best thing to do is to calm yourself as much as possible, even if you have to take your time at the appointment (don't let anyone rush you). If you accidentally overreact too much, they might think you have mental health issues. I dunno what Netherlands's stance is on people with mental health problems/conditions, but I do know MAID in Canada have delayed access for people with mental health problems for another year and that really sucks.
 
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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
Thanks for your responses. I'm English but have lived here for almost 25 years. I'm asking for this as I don't want to die alone. I want to have someone hold my hand, this is very important to me. As I've mentioned in other posts, I don't have to beg for euthanasia as I have sufficient opioids left over from my partners cancer treatments to end my life myself. I would simply like this as I feel it's an easier (for me) option. To be honest I doubt they will grant it, but if you don't ask you don't get, right?
Best thing to do is to calm yourself as much as possible, even if you have to take your time at the appointment (don't let anyone rush you). If you accidentally overreact too much, they might think you have mental health issues. I dunno what Netherlands's stance is on people with mental health problems/conditions, but I do know MAID in Canada have delayed access for people with mental health problems for another year and that really sucks.
I've taken Thursday afternoon off from work so I don't to worry about rushing back. It's just multiple people questioning me that I find stressful even after the phone call today I was shaking afterwards. Euthanasia is available here for people with mental health problems which is why I'm going to request it. The GP told me it was possible
 
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Raven2

Raven2

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Dec 1, 2022
456
Good luck for thursday I hope it goes your way. I would be interested in the outcome if you feel like updating us.
 
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LateForTheBus

LateForTheBus

Experienced
Feb 7, 2023
228
Euthanasia is available here for people with mental health problems which is why I'm going to request it. The GP told me it was possible
Oh, how I wish it were like that everywhere!!
 
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missingpeace

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Feb 4, 2023
431
You are indeed fortunate, I hope your case gets approved and you die in the company of the people you love. I wonder what it will take for them to approve it though, do share your feedback on how it goes, I think it would be very helpful to the people here.
 
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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
Thanks for your responses. I'm English but have lived here for almost 25 years. I'm asking for this as I don't want to die alone. I want to have someone hold my hand, this is very important to me. As I've mentioned in other posts, I don't have to beg for euthanasia as I have sufficient opioids left over from my partners cancer treatments to end my life myself. I would simply like this as I feel it's an easier (for me) option. To be honest I doubt they will grant it, but if you don't ask you don't get, right?

I've taken Thursday afternoon off from work so I don't to worry about rushing back. It's just multiple people questioning me that I find stressful even after the phone call today I was shaking afterwards. Euthanasia is available here for people with mental health problems which is why I'm going to request it. The GP told me it was possible
You are indeed fortunate, I hope your case gets approved and you die in the company of the people you love. I wonder what it will take for them to approve it though, do share your feedback on how it goes, I think it would be very helpful to the people here.
I don't know if any family would be able to be there at the end or hold my hand in case they get into trouble on their return to the UK. I don't know the law there or here. I'd be happy to just hold the hand of a nurse as I slip away. I will update this thread after the meeting on Thursday. Thank you all :heart::heart:
 
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AllMyDreams

AllMyDreams

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Dec 12, 2021
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You are a very lucky person. I mean it. Don't take it for granted, is the first thing I'd say. Let those thoughts fill you: you are in one of just 3 countries in the world (out of 196) that lets people die peacefully, and with someone, if life becomes too mentally unbearable. It's a special thing.

Anyway I hope that you get approved. In part because actually, a lot of people who got approved for euthanasia (in Belgium, at least) actually have said that it makes them more likely to want to live. Because when you have an 'emergency brake' it takes the pressure off of life, and you won't have to be condemned to decades of potential depression if you mess up. So if you get approved, take a few months to just live again with your "new" lifespan. See if it changes anything about you and how you behave/how anxious you are. This could be a way for you to die and relieve your suffering, but it could also be another chance at life, in a weird way.
 
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Gorsasu

Gorsasu

Dutch
Mar 6, 2023
14
Sorry to hear that life has been so disappointing for you. It is very brave of you to make this choice it would have been very difficult.

Ik hoop dat jij eindelijk je rust vindt.

Veel geluk <3
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,420
I see those who are able to get legalised assisted suicide as being very fortunate, I hope that you achieve the outcome that you wish for.
 
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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
Sorry to hear that life has been so disappointing for you. It is very brave of you to make this choice it would have been very difficult.

Ik hoop dat jij eindelijk je rust vindt.

Veel geluk <3
Hartelijk Bedankt :heart:
I love you people. You are all so kind and understanding.

Yes I do feel fortunate that euthanasia is an option here, but I hope to god they grant it for me. I've no idea how many hurdles I've got jump through first though.
I'm glad I live here and not back in the UK where they won't even give you it if you have a terminal illness, but if you are a sick animal then it's ok. How cruel and sick is that.
 
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zeenatax

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Dec 15, 2022
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So prior to my big session with the psychiatric team next Thursday, today I had a call with a couple of crisis team doctors to see how I was doing. I told them nothing had changed and that I was going to request euthanasia. They told me I had to mention this at the session on Thursday. Whether I will ever get offered this I really don't know, but i feel that because I'm not a young person I might have more chance. I live in the Netherlands by the way.
Im more than a little anxious for Thursday as there's going to be doctors, psychiatrists and psychologists there and I'm going to super nervous, it's going to feel like a job interview.
I won't tell family I'm officially asking for this as they are already worried. Anyone here in a similar situation?
I don't know your health situation. I assume you are in pain due to your condition. Tell them your pains are unbearable and getting very intense everyday and you can't take it anymore. If they have given you medications already to manage the pain tell them they are not working. The medications don't work on everyone and they wouldn't know whether they are working for you. Persist. Cry if you can.
They may try to give you different medications then that would be a problem. Tell them you don't want to try anything anymore because you can't take the pain anymore. Some medications take several months to work and you don't want to suffer that long. Again persist, persist, persist. Don't let them talk you out of it. Wish you all the best. If you feel like it keep us posted.
 
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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
I don't know your health situation. I assume you are in pain due to your condition. Tell them your pains are unbearable and getting very intense everyday and you can't take it anymore. If they have given you medications to manage the pain tell them they are not working. The medications don't work on everyone they wouldn't no whether they are working in you. Persist. Cry if you can.
They may try to give different medications then that would be a problem. Tell them you don't want to try anything anymore because you can't take the pain anymore. Again persist, persist, persists. Don't let them talk you out of it. Wish you all the best. Keep us posted.
The pain I have is in my heart and head. Physically I'm healthy. I get no pleasure or happiness in existing, there's nothing to look forward to except more blackness. It's 5 years since I lost my partner to cancer, there's zero chance of any improvement In my grief indeed it's been getting worse.
On Thursday at the big session I won't be able to hold back on crying when I talk about my partner. I will definitely be forceful in my request for an assisted death and I'm sure it will be quicker than if I do it myself
 
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Shadowlord900

Shadowlord900

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Sep 29, 2022
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Having heart and mind pains is definitely agonizing. I wish you all the best at your appointment.
 
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theboy

theboy

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Jul 15, 2022
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Sorry
You are not going to be euthanised. What country are you from? In almost no country euthanasia is for mental health.
 
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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
Sorry
You are not going to be euthanised. What country are you from? In almost no country euthanasia is for mental health.
I'm in the Netherlands and euthanasia is permitted here for both terminal illnesses and people with mental health problems. So yes I do have every chance of getting offered it.
 
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theboy

theboy

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Jul 15, 2022
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I'm in the Netherlands and euthanasia is permitted here for both terminal illnesses and people with mental health problems. So yes I do have every chance of getting offered it.
Interesting
How will you tell your family?
I hope you can find the peace you are looking for. I am sorry to hear about the passing of your dear wife. Life is very unfair sometimes.
 
WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
She wasn't my wife, we became official partners at her insistance so I could claim her company pension after she passed. We were like sisters, soul mates for life and had 31 very happy years together till that bastard cancer came along
 
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Shadowlord900

Shadowlord900

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Sep 29, 2022
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She wasn't my wife, we became official partners at her insistance so I could claim her company pension after she passed. We were like sisters, soul mates for life and had 31 very happy years together till that bastard cancer came along
Cancer fucking sucks. Breast cancer took my mom from me.
 
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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

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Feb 18, 2023
233
Cancer fucking sucks. Breast cancer took my mom from me.
So sorry to hear that. It does suck big time. We had 2 years of bloody hell with all the treatments she had. I remember and relive it all, it's like PTSD. That's why I want out so badly
 
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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
Well it seems Euthanasia is so far away I can't even see it in the distance. I was at the psychiatrists today and spent an hour with one psychiatrist then another one along with the first. Was there well over 2 hours and told them everything about everything
For them to grant euthanasia you have to have had several rounds of different therapies before they will even consider you and this will take upwards of 2 years. I'm so disappointed I can't tell you. i told them I hardly sleep and they are trying me on something different other than Zolpidem. I'd tell you what is was but they fucked up the prescription and when I got to the pharmacy they didn't know anything about it. So after a phone call back to the psychiatrist reception, i hope to be able to collect it tomorrow. Over here the prescription goes direct from the Dr to the pharmacy electronically. I have to go along with these therapies even though I doubt very much they will help in order to still have euthanasia as an option. They also told me they have a very long waiting list so it's likely that 2 years is a minimum.
They are going to sort my sleeping problem out first then more antidepressants and if all that fails, I still have my pills for when I want to ctb.
 
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Raven2

Raven2

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Dec 1, 2022
456
So it's a long process to get accepted but I understand why. Hopefully the new sleeping pills will work out for you. Will you go through the therapies they have insisted on?
Is the clinic expensive where you are for euthanasia ?
 
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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
So it's a long process to get accepted but I understand why. Hopefully the new sleeping pills will work out for you. Will you go through the therapies they have insisted on?
Is the clinic expensive where you are for euthanasia ?
Yes I'll have to otherwise euthanasia will never be on the table
The clinic is all paid for on my health insurance
 
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LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

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Jul 23, 2022
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I'm sorry you didn't get the outcome you wanted. Do you think the therapies they require will help at all? Of course if you approach them just wanting to speed through them to get them done, it's certain they don't be helpful in that case. Or you going to look at traditional DIY suicide like most of us here?
 
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WaitingToGo

WaitingToGo

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
233
I'm sorry you didn't get the outcome you wanted. Do you think the therapies they require will help at all? Of course if you approach them just wanting to speed through them to get them done, it's certain they don't be helpful in that case. Or you going to look at traditional DIY suicide like most of us here?
Apart from grief counseling I don't know what else there is or what they can offer. I feel completely drained after this afternoon And the pharmacy not having received the prescription was just the icing on the cake. I'm comforted by the knowledge that I do have enough pills to end my life relatively pain free, but what's lacking is the courage to just do it. Lack of courage is the only reason I'm still alive
 
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absolomonisgone

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Jan 23, 2023
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Life too hard person go to interview to go to school and get job now person go to interview to die.
 
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Shadowlord900

Shadowlord900

Seeker of Darkness
Sep 29, 2022
918
o___O 2 year waiting list!? Usually for euthanasias in other countries, you only need to go back a second time after 2 weeks for them to check if you still want to end your life or not.

I'm sorry you have to wait longer. I hope whatever new meds they put on will help give you some kind of relief until the day you've been waiting for comes.
 
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