Today I spoke to a suicide hotline and they were unhelpful

[Pcgamer1]

Today I spoke to the trevor project and they were so unhelpful. I talked about how I can't find new roommates or an affordable housing situation. They're response was to just leave california completely ignoring the fact that I would need thousands upon thousands of dollars to do it. I would have to find new friends and a new job, and also other states have significantly lower wages and less labor and tenant protections. Then there's also the issue of transphobia, red states are pushing a ton of anti trans laws right now, and their is a risk of HRT getting banned in red states next year and 24. Or worse getting thrown in a mental hospital for being trans. I live in one of the most progressive places in the usa, it's socially unacceptable to be a republican and be transphobic, and I feel very safe here. Even though its very unaffordable. Overall I feel like death is still the best option, I just need to find the right method and time to do it. If I die then I don't have to live out on the streets or see what happens if the GOP takes control in 24

 

[Suicidebydeath]

I'm sorry to hear that, helplines are not actually helpful for me either.

 

[nopointinlife]

Helplines are useless, and just serve as direct connection to a one way trip to a mental institution,

 

[Pcgamer1]

Helplines are useless, and just serve as direct connection to a one way trip to a mental institution,

Yeah that's true, Trevor project though doesn't call mental institutions, that's why I trust them more

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

I have no idea what on earth a hotline could tell me that would help… It's a lifetime of stupid decisions based on anxiety and fear and financial illiteracy

 

[summers]

Today, somewhere a bear shit in the woods...

 

[Astral Storm]

Hotlines are so insensitive and have no real grasp of the situation. It's so easy to talk about how everything will be better if they are not the ones living in it.

 

[eternal_life]

Today I spoke to the trevor project and they were so unhelpful. I talked about how I can't find new roommates or an affordable housing situation. They're response was to just leave california completely ignoring the fact that I would need thousands upon thousands of dollars to do it. I would have to find new friends and a new job, and also other states have significantly lower wages and less labor and tenant protections. Then there's also the issue of transphobia, red states are pushing a ton of anti trans laws right now, and their is a risk of HRT getting banned in red states next year and 24. Or worse getting thrown in a mental hospital for being trans. I live in one of the most progressive places in the usa, it's socially unacceptable to be a republican and be transphobic, and I feel very safe here. Even though its very unaffordable. Overall I feel like death is still the best option, I just need to find the right method and time to do it. If I die then I don't have to live out on the streets or see what happens if the GOP takes control in 24

In recent months I have been watching videos of homeless people in the US, living on the streets in tents, and rows and rows of tents, on the sidewalk in the center of the city, or sometimes in places more apart. And it was something common not only in one city in the United States, but in many. It caught my attention, because in the country where I live, in Europe, is not seen.

And all kinds of people lived in those tents in the USA, including people who had lost their jobs and had no money, but who were completely normal, and living on the street allowed them to move forward, try to save something, but there was an atmosphere of extraordinary camaraderie among them, because they practically lived in community, they are not isolated, they helped each other.

Couldn't you spend some time living like this, in a tent on the street, together with other people? Surely those people who are there help you little by little, you integrate with that community, and you start thinking about how to solve your financial problems, but there are many normal people, like you, living on the street. Isn't it better to accept living on the street for a while until the situation improves? Many of those people who lived on the street said they were even happy.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Today I spoke to the trevor project and they were so unhelpful. I talked about how I can't find new roommates or an affordable housing situation. They're response was to just leave california completely ignoring the fact that I would need thousands upon thousands of dollars to do it. I would have to find new friends and a new job, and also other states have significantly lower wages and less labor and tenant protections. Then there's also the issue of transphobia, red states are pushing a ton of anti trans laws right now, and their is a risk of HRT getting banned in red states next year and 24. Or worse getting thrown in a mental hospital for being trans. I live in one of the most progressive places in the usa, it's socially unacceptable to be a republican and be transphobic, and I feel very safe here. Even though its very unaffordable. Overall I feel like death is still the best option, I just need to find the right method and time to do it. If I die then I don't have to live out on the streets or see what happens if the GOP takes control in 24

Should have just retorted with "If it's that simple, why don't you fund me my move out of state". Not so simple for them now is it?

In recent months I have been watching videos of homeless people in the US, living on the streets in tents, and rows and rows of tents, on the sidewalk in the center of the city, or sometimes in places more apart. And it was something common not only in one city in the United States, but in many. It caught my attention, because in the country where I live, in Europe, is not seen.

And all kinds of people lived in those tents in the USA, including people who had lost their jobs and had no money, but who were completely normal, and living on the street allowed them to move forward, try to save something, but there was an atmosphere of extraordinary camaraderie among them, because they practically lived in community, they are not isolated, they helped each other.

Couldn't you spend some time living like this, in a tent on the street, together with other people? Surely those people who are there help you little by little, you integrate with that community, and you start thinking about how to solve your financial problems, but there are many normal people, like you, living on the street. Isn't it better to accept living on the street for a while until the situation improves? Many of those people who lived on the street said they were even happy.

That is entirely copium. No one in their right mind wants to live on the street worrying about when their next meal is going to be. If it's so great, why don't you move out of your place and live like that? You won't though, because even you realize it's the shit option, but since it isn't your life, you don't mind making such a copathetic suggestion.

 

[lionetta12]

In recent months I have been watching videos of homeless people in the US, living on the streets in tents, and rows and rows of tents, on the sidewalk in the center of the city, or sometimes in places more apart. And it was something common not only in one city in the United States, but in many. It caught my attention, because in the country where I live, in Europe, is not seen.

And all kinds of people lived in those tents in the USA, including people who had lost their jobs and had no money, but who were completely normal, and living on the street allowed them to move forward, try to save something, but there was an atmosphere of extraordinary camaraderie among them, because they practically lived in community, they are not isolated, they helped each other.

Couldn't you spend some time living like this, in a tent on the street, together with other people? Surely those people who are there help you little by little, you integrate with that community, and you start thinking about how to solve your financial problems, but there are many normal people, like you, living on the street. Isn't it better to accept living on the street for a while until the situation improves? Many of those people who lived on the street said they were even happy.

I guess you don't know about the statistics and dangers associated with being transexual in the US, especially if homeless and in a extra vulnerable situation. They are 4-6 times more likely to be victims of violence related crimes and kidnappings. I'm European as well, and I went to America last month and saw homeless people on the street and in tents every day in person, which I also saw when I lived in Ireland for a brief period. I did not see a single homeless person in neither of those countries that looked happy nor did it seem like a safe or stable environment for someone to be in who's already vulnerable. I have also been homeless myself when wanting to CTB, though it was in Europe, and that made me want to CTB even more than originaly. Also, what makes other people happy might not make this person happy. There's a big difference between being homeless by choice to save money while you work and live in your car for example due to a trend or to have more «freedom», and between being forced to be homeless and lose all your security and safety involunteringly or because you have no choice. Having both been homeless and kidnapped before, I could never wish or recommend that upon anyone and I struggle to see how that could make someone happy or how this would be a good idea for someone who's already struggling.

 

[eternal_life]

Should have just retorted with "If it's that simple, why don't you fund me my move out of state". Not so simple for them now is it?

That is entirely copium. No one in their right mind wants to live on the street worrying about when their next meal is going to be. If it's so great, why don't you move out of your place and live like that? You won't though, because even you realize it's the shit option, but since it isn't your life, you don't mind making such a copathetic suggestion.

I think that you have not understand me. I have not said that living on the street is wonderful, I have said that many normal people with difficulties (loss of employment and money) are living on the street, and that they help each other. Fortunately, I am not in that situation and I am sure it must be very hard. But is it the lesser evil for many people who have been forced to live on the streets, or do you suggest that all those people who live on the streets should commit suicide? Are you suggesting that it is better to take one's life than to live on the streets? Is that your suggestion to the million Americans living on the streets, to kill themselves? Are you such a bad person?

 

[Anonymus]

I do not trust telephone lines to prevent suicide, because they only prevent it by forcibly referring you to a center, when what you want is for someone to understand you and make you see things in a different way, as a last chance you give yourself to get out of the dead end where you are.

Recently they have launched in Spain the telephone number 024 and they only make news of how they have referred to the emergency services cases of ongoing suicides, they do not talk about what they do in cases where the "victims" are close to the will to do it but do not get to do it. We know what they do in these cases, right? make your life even more complicated.

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Jo no hi confio pas en les línies teléfoniques per evitar el suïcidi, doncs només l'eviten derivan-te forçosament a un centre, quan el que tu vols es que algú et comprengui i et faci veure les coses d'una altre manera, com una última oportunitat que et dones a tu mateix d'ensortir-te'n de l'atzucac on ets.

Fa poc han posat en marxa a Espanya el teléfon 024 i només fan que sortir notícies de com han derivat als serveis d'emergéncia casos de suïcidis en curs, no parlen de que fan en casos en que les "víctimes" voregen la voluntat de fer-ho pero no ho arriben a fer. Ja sabem que fan en aquests casos, oi? complicar-te més encara la teva vida.

 

[want2dienow]

Yeah that's true, Trevor project though doesn't call mental institutions, that's why I trust them more

Yes they will too.

Should have just retorted with "If it's that simple, why don't you fund me my move out of state". Not so simple for them now is it?

That is entirely copium. No one in their right mind wants to live on the street worrying about when their next meal is going to be. If it's so great, why don't you move out of your place and live like that? You won't though, because even you realize it's the shit option, but since it isn't your life, you don't mind making such a copathetic suggestion.

Hell yes

 

[Hollowillow]

I often wonder if I could rent a room to 4 people with bunk beds for like 100$ a month & get people out of the streets. But I'd probably get raped & robbed... Someone said it gets dirty & insalubrious very fast with overcrowding...

Maybe join a trans community to find a roomate, or post for a stranger... Or a room for travelers?

I poisonned my cheap home & was forced in homeless shelters to escape. Slept on wood with shit on the ceiling... That night I gave up & went home in the poison to die in a bed...

I hope you'll find someone to rent... Maybe 2 if expensive...

 

[want2dienow]

I think that you have not understand me.

They understood is as it was written.

do you suggest that all those people who live on the streets should commit suicide? Are you suggesting that it is better to take one's life than to live on the streets? Is that your suggestion to the million Americans living on the streets, to kill themselves? Are you such a bad person?

No one suggesting anything. What they chose to do is their choice.
I was homeless too, if I hadn't been picked up, I would've undoubtable because that's exactly what i was planning to do before it occurred.

 

[lionetta12]

I think that you have not understand me. I have not said that living on the street is wonderful, I have said that many normal people with difficulties (loss of employment and money) are living on the street, and that they help each other. Fortunately, I am not in that situation and I am sure it must be very hard. But is it the lesser evil for many people who have been forced to live on the streets, or do you suggest that all those people who live on the streets should commit suicide? Are you suggesting that it is better to take one's life than to live on the streets? Is that your suggestion to the million Americans living on the streets, to kill themselves? Are you such a bad person?

I don't appreciate that you are trying to insinuate that someone on here is a bad person for no reason, you have no basis for making such a statement. Especially when you seem to have very little understanding and lack of knowledge related to this topic overall. Instead of consuming videos online in a bubble from Europe that are only showing one happy great side to being homeless, maybe you should go out in the real world and see for your own eyes what it really is like and experience the not so pretty side of it before you go around calling others bad people? Maybe even talk to someone who is or have been homeless? Afterall, you seem to be able to afford N so you should be able to go to a place where homelessness occurs to educate yourself on reality without an issue, finance wise.

 

[Finding Sirius]

@eternal_life Um no just...no. There's being optimistic and seeing the silver lining, then there's being delusional. You fall into the latter category with your statements. As others have asked would you want to be homeless? If your answer is no then not only are you delusional but insincere as well. I see the conditions of the homeless where I live and it is less than ideal. Please take off your rose tinted glasses and look at the world for what it is, the good AND the bad.

 

[FuneralCry]

To me, hotlines sound useless and they sound like a waste of time. After all, words from strangers cannot take away anyones suffering or fix any real problems. I think that the whole idea of hotlines suggests that suicide is something that must always be prevented and is irrational, when in reality wanting suicide can be perfectly rational in a world like this.

 

[western_heart]

Trans Lifeline does not do active rescue, idk if it would be helpful https://translifeline.org/hotline/

I know what it feels like to be afraid of the political situation. I live in a red state (because family) and want to get out before 2025.

I hope you can figure out a way to stay. Moving to another city/state where you have no connections would almost certainly be worse. However: California is not the only blue state, it's not the only state with high wages and consumer/worker/civil rights protections, it's not the only state with rapidly increasing cost of living, and while wages do tend to be lower in many places, housing is usually cheaper too.

No one should have to leave the place they want to live because of housing costs, but I've been there before. rent increases when I lived in California made it feel like my salary would never be enough.

 

[Pcgamer1]

Trans Lifeline does not do active rescue, idk if it would be helpful https://translifeline.org/hotline/

I know what it feels like to be afraid of the political situation. I live in a red state (because family) and want to get out before 2025.

I hope you can figure out a way to stay. Moving to another city/state where you have no connections would almost certainly be worse. However: California is not the only blue state, it's not the only state with high wages and consumer/worker/civil rights protections, it's not the only state with rapidly increasing cost of living, and while wages do tend to be lower in many places, housing is usually cheaper too.

No one should have to leave the place they want to live because of housing costs, but I've been there before. rent increases when I lived in California made it feel like my salary would never be enough.

Trans lifeline is always busy. And for me I would rather die than live out on the streets, I don't have the survival skills to be on the streets. And I don't want to be kidnapped or thrown in jail. I also wouldn't be able to do my estrogen injections

 

[Foresight]

I'm disgusted with this country that people even face homelessness or hunger in this day and age with the resources we have.

I moved from New England to the Midwest. New England states aren't as liberal as CA but they are left leaning most of the time. There is a definite difference in the Midwest but it's not brutal everywhere. I can't imagine what the south is like. I quite frankly think employment discrimination would be an issue in some of these lower cost of living states. Even with the lower wage rate, the lower cost of living does fair okay though. My husband bought a home when he was making $15/hr 5 years ago. That's a fairytale on the coasts. The cost of living on the East and West coasts are making them uninhabitable at this point.

 

[western_heart]

Trans lifeline is always busy. And for me I would rather die than live out on the streets, I don't have the survival skills to be on the streets. And I don't want to be kidnapped or thrown in jail. I also wouldn't be able to do my estrogen injections

do you get injections prescribed at a clinic that specializes in LGBT care? If so they might be able to help with housing support, moreso than a nationwide suicide hotline would.

also, while doing injections on the street sounds pretty unpleasant, as long as you have a place to keep your medication and supplies (friend's house?) idk why you'd have to stop them

 

[Pcgamer1]

do you get injections prescribed at a clinic that specializes in LGBT care? If so they might be able to help with housing support, moreso than a nationwide suicide hotline would.

also, while doing injections on the street sounds pretty unpleasant, as long as you have a place to keep your medication and supplies (friend's house?) idk why you'd have to stop them

It would be way less safe for me to do it out on the streets. I don't have a friend's place I could just go to. I don't want to live in the streets plain and simple. I want to die rather than spend a day on the streets. I'm ok with living in a motel. A shelter maybe if they don't have a ton of rules and I have a private room