Venting To never exist would always be better than being alive here

[Darkover]

If everything dies, and all experiences—good or bad—are temporary, then existence can feel meaningless or like an unnecessary struggle. Non-existence avoids all suffering, all needs, all losses. There's no risk, no pain, no fleeting happiness to chase.

Life, on the other hand, is filled with uncertainty, struggle, and inevitable decay. Even the best moments don't last, and for many, suffering outweighs joy. If the end result is always nothingness, some argue that skipping the journey entirely would be preferable.

 

[Despair 7]

I envy those billions of sperm cells

 

[Darkover]

I envy those billions of sperm cells

you mean the ones that didn't make it to the egg and got spared from this living misery in hell

 

[L'absent]

Existence is coercion. Not a choice, not an opportunity, not a game, but a brutal imposition, an ontological violence that throws us into a theater of impulses, needs, and inevitable decay. Life is the agony of a biological unit writhing in an indifferent void, a fever of being that burns itself out into silence.
We are taught to believe that pain is the price of beauty, that struggle justifies achievement, that horror is balanced by fleeting pleasure. But this is the vilest of illusions: the mechanism sustains itself, feeding on the very drive that keeps us clinging to the idea that something has meaning.
Time erodes everything, yet the system forces us to participate, to desire, to hope for a duration that is never enough. Consciousness, this useless burden, compels us to recognize our condition while denying us a painless escape.
Absence is perfection: non-being lacks nothing, has no tensions, no shattered expectations. Life is a cruel paradox: an organism struggling to preserve itself despite knowing it is doomed to ruin. No existence justifies itself, no joy is great enough to compensate for the inevitable collapse.
To exist is to be condemned to a cycle of ephemeral stimuli and latent fears, while the inanimate sleeps in eternal quiet, free from the tyranny of becoming. Suicide is not an escape, not a rebellion, not a tragic act: it is merely a return to the natural state of things, the cessation of being in a universe that never required our presence.

 

[Forever Sleep]

There's no better or worse if nothing exists. Plus, no one around to make judgements on what would be better.

Also, even some people with shitty lives will claim they are happy to have been created. So, we can't exactly chose for everyone. Opinions on life and existence are so personal. We likely wouldn't find universal agreement there.

Still, yes- sure- the mere possibility of existing as a sentient being encompasses the possibility of something bad happening and the creature not liking it. So, in terms of that, non existence seems the safest option to me also. Yay antinatilism and all that.

Not that I do believe this personally but we also don't 100% know or not know whether there is any kind of spiritual necessity to life. Even if it doesn't make sense or, it isn't fair. We simply don't know. So- can we actually say it's better not to exist? What if existing- even as shitty as it can be, does have some sort of purpose? Again, I'm not really sold on what that could even be. It's just an unknown variable. It's generally at this point I tend to envy hardened atheists. Life's got to be more simple in some sense if you are convinced it's all just biology, chemistry, physics and chance.

 

[Despair 7]

you mean the ones that didn't make it to the egg and got spared from this living misery in hell

Yep

 

[Darkover]

Not that I do believe this personally but we also don't 100% know or not know whether there is any kind of spiritual necessity to life. Even if it doesn't make sense or, it isn't fair. We simply don't know. So- can we actually say it's better not to exist? What if existing- even as shitty as it can be, does have some sort of purpose? Again, I'm not really sold on what that could even be. It's just an unknown variable. It's generally at this point I tend to envy hardened atheists. Life's got to be more simple in some sense if you are convinced it's all just biology, chemistry, physics and chance.

the lack of clear evidence makes it just as easy to conclude there's no spiritual necessity at all. On one hand, people might argue that there's some higher reason for existence or a deeper purpose that we're all part of—whether it's growth, learning, or some kind of cosmic balance. On the other hand, it's easy to feel that life might just be random and we give it meaning ourselves, without any universal spiritual pull.

at the most fundamental level, we are just machines made up of atoms. Our bodies, brains, and everything about us is governed by the laws of physics and chemistry. From a purely materialistic standpoint, there's no inherent spiritual essence that makes us special—just atoms interacting in complex ways. But even within that, there's still this huge mystery about consciousness and experience that we can't fully explain just by looking at the atoms.