Thoughts on Impulsive Suicide

[can_ash_be_redeemed]

Hello all -
I've been trying to decide for myself and wanted to hear more opinions. Should we view suicide differently when someone has considered it long and hard before following through vs someone hitting a breaking point and taking their exit? Is there any meaningful difference?

 

[FuneralCry]

In my opinion, I believe that we all have the right to exit at a time of our own choosing, it is the individuals decision. We have no obligations to stay alive as we did not ask to exist. There is also no way of knowing what is going through an individuals mind before they ctb anyway. I always see every ctb as being a personal choice, no matter the circumstances.

 

[souljah222]

i feel like you cant lose either way, getting out of here is always a W but not for the people around you

 

[Chinaski]

In my opinion, I believe that we all have the right to exit at a time of our own choosing, it is the individuals decision. We have no obligations to stay alive as we did not ask to exist. There is also no way of knowing what is going through an individuals mind before they ctb anyway. I always see every ctb as being a personal choice, no matter the circumstances.

The flipside of this is that many suicide attempts are cries for help, and many people who fail a genuine attempt go on to recover. I dare say the number of people who have considered suicide impulsively due to a crisis (job loss, separation, grief, whatever) yet didn't act upon it and have fully recovered is not insignificant. Suicide has myriad drivers and motivators and often this goes overlooked on here as we compete for our Most Pro Choice Poster award imo.

 

[willitpass]

i personally think impulsive suicide is frowned upon in my books. whilst it in fairness does not matter once you are dead, you are also leaving those behind you with that burden for the rest of their lives out of a brief moment of suffering that very well may pass. i understand that we all have a choice to live or die, but i feel that such a final decision should be a last resort for the sake of those left behind

 

[Superdeterminist]

IMO, no. Suicide is not wrong just because it's impulsive. How much thought a person gives suicide before doing it, is arbitrary.

 

[clockface]

i feel like you cant lose either way, getting out of here is always a W but not for the people around you

Sometimes, the decision to ctb is because of the people around you.

 

[Crazy4u]

I suspect that impulsive suicide is not serious and one of the main reasons suicide attempts fail. There is a big difference between that and long-term planning. Long term planning can be weeks, months, or even years. The person who plans ctb is more serious and probably have good reasons to ctb.

 

[Lost Magic]

I hear a lot of motivational speakers talk about the golden gate bridge survivors. A lot of them said that they regretted their decision immediately after they jumped (or attempted to jump). I chalk that down to basic survival instinct tbh. Don't get me wrong I hope they all turned their lives around for that better but they probably did so because they had the personal freedom to jump in the first place. I still think planning is better though because I have seen a lot of botched attempts because of impulse.

 

[Symbiote]

I'll let you know when I think about it, right now just chillin.

 

[Britvik]

I suspect that impulsive suicide is not serious and one of the main reasons suicide attempts fail. There is a big difference between that and long-term planning. Long term planning can be weeks, months, or even years. The person who plans ctb is more serious and probably have good reasons to ctb.

What would qualify as a bad reason?

IMO, no. Suicide is not wrong just because it's impulsive. How much thought a person gives suicide before doing it, is arbitrary.

Do you think suicide is ever wrong?

i personally think impulsive suicide is frowned upon in my books. whilst it in fairness does not matter once you are dead, you are also leaving those behind you with that burden for the rest of their lives out of a brief moment of suffering that very well may pass. i understand that we all have a choice to live or die, but i feel that such a final decision should be a last resort for the sake of those left behind

Why care about those left behind?

 

[Red Scare]

I think if MAID was legalized and normalized that a lot less people would choose to impulsively exit, and in so doing it in a way that was likely painful or easy to botch... if people knew they could just go ask their doctor for the necessary meds to end their life, then people would be forced to give it more thought before going through with it. That might save a lot of lives. Of course there are people who will still go through with it even after giving it much thought, and that should be their right...

 

[OldDrummer]

CTB'ing is always a choice, but please don't do it impulsively. Be mindful about your choice.

 

[Yann]

I mean. there is nothing morally wrong with CTBing impulsively. But I also think that there's no reason to rush into it. I think most people consider suicide at least once, in passing... But most also go on to live happy lives later. For some of us, we have desired death so long that it's no longer worth waiting it out. But I do think that impulsive decisionmaking would cause there to be tons of people taking their lives when real solutions to their problems existed and they would go on to live happily. So I guess, my response is one probably shouldn't do it prematurely, but they can if they need to. Mulling over it too long can be a problem too.

 

[Lost Magic]

I mean. there is nothing morally wrong with CTBing impulsively. But I also think that there's no reason to rush into it. I think most people consider suicide at least once, in passing... But most also go on to live happy lives later. For some of us, we have desired death so long that it's no longer worth waiting it out. But I do think that impulsive decisionmaking would cause there to be tons of people taking their lives when real solutions to their problems existed and they would go on to live happily. So I guess, my response is one probably shouldn't do it prematurely, but they can if they need to. Mulling over it too long can be a problem too.

Yeah, true. There are a lot of impulsive suicides and some of the people who are saved or don't go through with it can live meaningful lives. As you say, though, many of us have been living with these feeling for many years (decades in my case). It gets exhausting after a while. That's why I don't plan much these days. I enjoy a few simple pleasures and prepare for the day that I know longer have to wake up to endure another hopeless day.

 

[lyles]

For as much as I think about suicide and have planned it, I imagine that the day I actually do it will be impulsive. I don't think I will ever set an exact date for myself. There will just be a point where it snaps for me and then it'll be over. I have thought about it plenty, I guess, so I am not sure that counts.

In general I would hope that people try to be thoughtful about what they choose, though. If only because it could be the last choice you really make.