Discussion Thought broadcasting

[fieryending]

I know that feeling like your thoughts aren't private is a positive identifier for schizophrenia, but sometimes I wonder if it's actually true. I can think things at people and understandably and predictably not get a response, because logically they can't hear what goes on inside my mind. I have also heard that weed can trigger schizophrenia or schizo symptoms in people who are at risk, and I kinda believe it. One time I got superrrr high on weed and for the next week I had the experience/ sensation that my thoughts were not private and that I was finally understanding what "my mind" is. It's not "my mind" because other people also think it's "my mind" / "their mind". I felt like people knew things about me that I thought were private, they just never say/said anything about it out loud because it's not socially acceptable to talk about other's minds/ mind out loud. Hence mental illness diagnoses and such for people who talk about it out loud. I felt like theres a lot I don't understand that weed opened up for me. I think weed opens up more of the world to experience for some people/ it makes your soul more public. After a while the feeling died down and I got more sane, I started doubting my assumptions the longer it had been since I smoked and I completely see the delusional nature and how it's not possible from a sane rational perspective. I see why saying things like this is troubling and gets people labeled as crazy. But I also have my own perspective that I can't possibly completely explain to another person so they can understand it how I do. I feel like everybody knows stuff like this, in their own way, they just can't say it. Everyone thinks things that could label them as crazy. have you ever thought that your thoughts weren't private? I have only ever experienced broadcasting thoughts, just not receiving. I feel like I can receive at a very low level/ if at all and I only get general ideas, not concrete thoughts, and that's why I felt like my thoughts were public. I know this is not possible, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not true. It's not real from a rational perspective, but I'm entertaining it and looking from a more open minded and understanding angle. Sorry for the crazy ramble.

 

[AnnonyBox]

That happened to me when I was a kid. I knew nobody could read people's minds, but I was always afraid of the possibility of it, but then I was also fantasizing about kicking the collective asses of anyone that bullied me, so I suppose kid me had a reason to not want the bullies peering into his mind. It seems so strange to think about it in retrospect. But yeah, I grew out of it. Now I comfortably chew people out with a litany of expletives in the comfort of my own head.

 

[SinisterKid]

I used to smoke Skunk a lot and it did some weird old things to the mind. But if you think that was good/bad, try hallucinogenics, thats a whole different level.

Its not a question of sanity/insanity, more a question of experiences. Who is to say that the experiences of others are real or not? Just because you have had things happen to you that the logical mind cannot explain, does not mean you are crazy, delusional or irrational. Yeah, talking about some experiences in the wrong company can be dangerous to ones liberty, but here, you are accepted and can talk openly about anything within reason.

I cant say I have experienced anything like you have with regards to thoughts, but I lived the life of a snake once, which was "real" to me and the world is a different place when seen from ground level constantly. Am I crazy? Probably

 

[sleepy dog]

I know that feeling like your thoughts aren't private is a positive identifier for schizophrenia, but sometimes I wonder if it's actually true. I can think things at people and understandably and predictably not get a response, because logically they can't hear what goes on inside my mind. I have also heard that weed can trigger schizophrenia or schizo symptoms in people who are at risk, and I kinda believe it. One time I got superrrr high on weed and for the next week I had the experience/ sensation that my thoughts were not private and that I was finally understanding what "my mind" is. It's not "my mind" because other people also think it's "my mind" / "their mind". I felt like people knew things about me that I thought were private, they just never say/said anything about it out loud because it's not socially acceptable to talk about other's minds/ mind out loud. Hence mental illness diagnoses and such for people who talk about it out loud. I felt like theres a lot I don't understand that weed opened up for me. I think weed opens up more of the world to experience for some people/ it makes your soul more public. After a while the feeling died down and I got more sane, I started doubting my assumptions the longer it had been since I smoked and I completely see the delusional nature and how it's not possible from a sane rational perspective. I see why saying things like this is troubling and gets people labeled as crazy. But I also have my own perspective that I can't possibly completely explain to another person so they can understand it how I do. I feel like everybody knows stuff like this, in their own way, they just can't say it. Everyone thinks things that could label them as crazy. have you ever thought that your thoughts weren't private? I have only ever experienced broadcasting thoughts, just not receiving. I feel like I can receive at a very low level/ if at all and I only get general ideas, not concrete thoughts, and that's why I felt like my thoughts were public. I know this is not possible, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not true. It's not real from a rational perspective, but I'm entertaining it and looking from a more open minded and understanding angle. Sorry for the crazy ramble.

Are you talking about people believing they are psychic?

 

[fieryending]

Are you talking about people believing they are psychic?

I guess people who are psychic could fit the bill for what I'm talking about, but I'm just talking about anyone who has ever felt like they had their mind read or could read someone else's mind.

I used to smoke Skunk a lot and it did some weird old things to the mind. But if you think that was good/bad, try hallucinogenics, thats a whole different level.

Its not a question of sanity/insanity, more a question of experiences. Who is to say that the experiences of others are real or not? Just because you have had things happen to you that the logical mind cannot explain, does not mean you are crazy, delusional or irrational. Yeah, talking about some experiences in the wrong company can be dangerous to ones liberty, but here, you are accepted and can talk openly about anything within reason.

I cant say I have experienced anything like you have with regards to thoughts, but I lived the life of a snake once, which was "real" to me and the world is a different place when seen from ground level constantly. Am I crazy? Probably

That reminds me of this quote: Once upon a time, I, Zhuangzi, dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, a veritable butterfly, enjoying itself to the full of its bent, and not knowing it was Zhuangzi. Suddenly I awoke, and came to myself, the veritable Zhuangzi. Now I do not know whether it was then I dreamt I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly dreaming I am a man.

Sounds kinda similar.

That happened to me when I was a kid. I knew nobody could read people's minds, but I was always afraid of the possibility of it, but then I was also fantasizing about kicking the collective asses of anyone that bullied me, so I suppose kid me had a reason to not want the bullies peering into his mind. It seems so strange to think about it in retrospect. But yeah, I grew out of it. Now I comfortably chew people out with a litany of expletives in the comfort of my own head.

That is interesting. What made you think it was possible?

 

[sleepy dog]

I am thinking that most people believe they can read minds, see the future, just "know" things. Don't they. If I'm wrong tell me.

 

[fieryending]

I am thinking that most people believe they can read minds, see the future, just "know" things. Don't they. If I'm wrong tell me.

I wouldn't say so exactly, it is labeled a delusion after all.

 

[sleepy dog]

I wouldn't say so exactly, it is labeled a delusion after all.

I'm 53, and my experience has been that most people believe they are psychics. I am not saying they are. I am saying they believe they are. Most people are delusional.

 

[meetapple]

I have this and it is hell on earth. The reason why it is so bad is because I feel embarrassed by the nature of my thoughts. Because I think people can read my mind (which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy) I interpret what people say and do as a punishment. I then end up thinking there is a special technique for my mind that I am not privy to. This absolutely curtails productivity because I am constantly thinking about this. I worry about being a constant object of ridicule or hate if I just let things go.